Stepping for FFR

[moches]

edit: just finished my first file for FFR, so if anybody would like to playtest, PM me and I will send a link over.

I'm planning to finally start stepping files for FFR, but I have no idea how much of my experience with Stepmania will cross over. So for those of who who have stepped for both games, are the processes noticeably different? Any advice you'd like to give me?

[trumaestro]

Get used to not using freezes for :expressivemanias:

Short of that nothing is really all that different. Can't wait to see some moches ffr files.

[bmah]

When it comes to stepping, it isn't too much different, other than the fact that you can't use freezes, and bpm gimmicks are relatively useless (except for changing arrow colors). Everything else applies.

I think the bigger differences between FFR and SM apply to the gameplay, as opposed to how one should step.


Just be aware that you need to step songs in which we have permission for; either artists whom we've asked, or CC music (public music free for use).

[Gundam-Dude]

I find that my files really lose the oopmh factor when I convert SM files into FFR—they just don't play nearly as well as they do on SM, which really demotivates me from doing more files for FFR or even making FFR exclusives. Likewise, I don't have nearly as much enjoyment with making FFR files as I do with SM, personally.

also be weary of jack patterns that may cause boos and rainbow grace notes that have to be hit as jumps/hands on FFR due to the timing windows and note registration

[Ghakimx]

There's practically no difference, other than the audience. Instead of thinking "I want everyone to try to AAA this file" you should think more of "I want everybody to enjoy playing this file".

[bmah]

Originally Posted by Gundam-Dude

also be weary of jack patterns that may cause boos and rainbow grace notes that have to be hit as jumps/hands on FFR due to the timing windows and note registration

On a note to this, be aware of color theory use on FFR. Conversion can make that 192nd note split away and become a gallop instead of, say, a jump. This IS fixable, but not all files get a framer treatment.

[intensez]

ok so 1 time i triad to make a file for ffr rite, made all the best stesps (had some sick crossoversssa holy shit!) n i triad hard to make a good file for the game n then it got rejected. i keapdet tryin to make it bettr and btettr n people just didnt liek it so i was like ok wtf so i adddaded in sik jaks (yea jaks there so hard to hit omg) n i tried so hard to play the file n i was like "ok what m do" and sent the file in n then jimerxx was like "ok this file is k but it not good" so i was like "k' and triad my best to maiek it bettr n yea it was bad n then i askd him again "hey what shud i do" n then this one guy was liek "stop stepping n uninstall" thinking itd help me i uninstalled stepamannnfdiia n i was like "this no help wtf ***" n then i tried to resttep my song n yea long story short lol ffr is hard to steap for lol

[AlexDest]

what chimerical insight you have brought us mr intensez

[kommisar]

can't be an expressive based simfile artist in FFR that's da difference.


hvae to focus on how much fun/.visually appealing simple arrows can be.

[Choofers]

people liked vortex on stepmania


people hate vortex on ffr

take dat how u will

[SKG_Scintill]

SM = Any score will do
FFR = AAA

When peepz play fielz, not AAA = mads 'bout fiel

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by Choofers

people liked vortex on stepmania


people hate vortex on ffr

take dat how u will

but vortex is my favorite FFR file right now ;__;

[icontrolyourworld]

I say just step like you normally would (minus freezes and bombs), you should be fine since you're really good

[moches]

serious props for the advice here, all of you guys are super legit

I finished around 60 percent of a conversion of Society of Nonconformists for FFR, turning out decent so far

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

I would argue it really depends on the judges you get if it makes it in or not

good luck with that

[moches]

Thanks

Finished Society of Nonconformists and plan on sending in 2nite after skool, get hype

Felt weird to step FFR style at first, but I think it turned out neat, if anybody wants to try it PM me and I'll send over a link!!!!

Edit: wait, submissions are closed? fuuuuudge

[bmah]

FFR receives its files in batches, which open on certain dates and typically close after we receive a certain number of submissions. The last one was open in late October. Batches open approximately once every 1.5-3 months (typically around 2 months).

You definitely should subscribe to the Queue/Batch Discussion Thread so you can get an idea of the next batch opening date. I'm not sure if there will be another one this year, but keep your eyes peeled. Also take note of submission rules on that thread.

Typically between this waiting period is when people step a whole lot of songs in reserve for the next opening date.

[MarioNintendo]

Bmah mentionned the submission rules, but if you ever find that too boring you should definitely play the song aptly named Submission Rules.

[moches]

read the submission guide earlier today, and I still have no idea how submission caps work. anybody care to enlighten me?

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by moches

read the submission guide earlier today, and I still have no idea how submission caps work. anybody care to enlighten me?

Simply:

- You can submit up to two files starting out.
- You start off with +0 points
- If your files get accepted, you get points added to your cap.


For increasing your submission cap - the ranks go as follows:

0-9pts - 2
10-15pts - 3
16-39pts - 4
40pts or more - 5


So here is how to increase your submission cap:

- If you have a file accepted into the game -> +10
(So for example, you could then submit 3 files)

- If you get the Acceptance Line (aka average score cutoff) +1.5 or more average point in a file -> +3
(Example: Cutoff is a 7.0 and you get a 8.5 on your file - you get +3 more points)


- If you get the Acceptance Line + 0.5 or more average point in a file -> +2
(Example: Cutoff is 7.0 and you get a 7.5)


- Getting Acceptance Line in a file -> +1
(Example: Cutoff is 7.0 - and you get a 7.0)


Getting rejected:
If your file dosen't reach the cutoff - and is scored below it then you will not get any points. For the next batch, you will still be able to submit no more then two. If your file makes the re-submission list (AKA top 10 files that were right below the cutoff) then you can re-submit with fixes while also submitting your two other files.


Side-note:
It is possible to get negative points, but in order to do so you need to send in a file so bad, its obvious your trolling. Or, you somehow steal someone else's file. That type of stuff.


EDIT:
Send me the file - I would love to play it. I'm not the best at judging files - let alone making files but I can give any input I can. I need to get better as well :P