Old 09-3-2013, 06:22 PM   #381
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Keep clicking those Wrath cookies and find out.
I have. I've had one bad cookie.
Beyond the chance negative effects of a bad wrath cookie, do they hinder your progress?
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Old 09-3-2013, 06:31 PM   #382
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Old 09-3-2013, 06:39 PM   #383
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Then I will gladly save my 6.6 Trillion cookies for upgrades rather than obtaining the Elder Covenant. Haha.
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Old 09-3-2013, 06:43 PM   #384
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The Wrath cookies don't really do much to hinder progress unless you have some seriously bad luck. If you have low CPS they're better imo, with gold cookies being better at high CPS. People have been doing experiments and crazy ass graphs and shit so i'll take a look around.
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Old 09-3-2013, 06:52 PM   #385
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The Wrath cookies don't really do much to hinder progress unless you have some seriously bad luck. If you have low CPS they're better imo, with gold cookies being better at high CPS. People have been doing experiments and crazy ass graphs and shit so i'll take a look around.
Awesome. Share your research results.
I'm at ~514 Million CPS, for what that is worth.
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Old 09-3-2013, 07:05 PM   #386
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Just bought One Mind, got a clot on the first red cookie lol. My CPS is so low compared to you guys though... it's only at 72 million.
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Old 09-3-2013, 07:08 PM   #387
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Just bought One Mind, got a clot on the first red cookie lol. My CPS is so low compared to you guys though... it's only at 72 million.
Have you got the two golden cookie upgrades yet? If so, then it's definitely worth clicking more wrath cookies at your CPS currently.
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Old 09-3-2013, 07:18 PM   #388
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Yeah, I got them a while ago. I'm only missing 11 upgrades total (the 1 trillion+ ones and some of the research upgrades)
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Old 09-3-2013, 07:28 PM   #389
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Yeah, I got them a while ago. I'm only missing 11 upgrades total (the 1 trillion+ ones and some of the research upgrades)
Ah alright, good good then. I've hard reset 3 times, and 2 more times for achievements and am going strong so far. About 200 million CPS in about 24 hours at the moment, all achievements and a few upgrades missing.

I just found it pointless to keep playing my main account when shit cost like 300 trillion for an upgrade..Dungeons will be out in about a week and i'll hopefully be ready
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Old 09-3-2013, 07:32 PM   #390
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This is the second run through of the game. I got all the achievements on that build before resetting and attempting a no click run. I'm just glad that an achievement came out afterwords for that. I'm missing the 1 trillion reset achievement because I misjudged what the total needed was.

"Helper" is just a small GreaseMonkey script that gives me some useful statistics in the bottom right of the game window, along with tracking the amount of game ticks to get a total time played.
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Old 09-3-2013, 07:34 PM   #391
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Stay strong for that Time Machine Velo, 100 takes dedication haha - I got to about 105-110 and it was just..too much lol.
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Old 09-3-2013, 07:40 PM   #392
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Stay strong for that Time Machine Velo, 100 takes dedication haha - I got to about 105-110 and it was just..too much lol.
At the current cps per item:
Time Machine: 689,128
Grandma's: 114,668
Cursors: 93,669.2

Grandmas are worth the second most which is nice. I'll have #100 in a bit.
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Old 09-3-2013, 07:42 PM   #393
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Here's my general strategy at this point.

I'm at 545 million cps. I'm keeping 10 trillion cookies in the bank at any given point.

If I'm going to babysit the game and click cookies, I'll keep the grandmothers appeased (the cost is capped at 8^13 cookies or ~550 million cookies). The most likely golden cookie click results are the cookie instant bonus (~10% of your current cookie stockpile or 30 minutes of cookie production at your cps, whichever is lower) and the x7 cps for 77 seconds. One click of a golden cookie will net me ~294 million cookies over 77 seconds, or ~980 million for the instant payout. When cookies are appearing every couple minutes (because I bought the golden cookie upgrades), a couple golden cookie clicks will make back my loss on appeasing the grandmothers. All this assumes I'm keeping 10 trillion cookies banked and I feel like babysitting the game.

For red cookies you're wanting the ~6% chance of getting x666 to your cps for 6 seconds. For me it would be a gain of ~2.1 trillion. Which is very nice, but 4 golden cookie clicks will likely net me more cookies than relatively uncommon "Elder Frenzy".

There's lots of nice math you could do to figure out at which cps it becomes more advantageous to appease the grandmothers than just work with the red cookies. There's really no extreme downside to just relying on red cookies though, you won't be losing cookies overall with them.

I'm not sure why I spent time going though this.
(sources of cookie rates and numbers are taken from the cookie clicker wikia site, the editors of that claim to of found the info within the game code)
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New update. v1.034

04/09/2013 - smarter cookie
-golden cookies only have 20% chance of giving the same outcome twice in a row now
-added a golden cookie upgrade
-added an upgrade that makes pledges last twice as long (requires having pledged 10 times)
-Quintillion fingers is now twice as efficient
-Uncanny clicker was really too unpredictable; it is now a regular achievement and no longer requires a world record, just *pretty fast* clicking
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Old 09-3-2013, 07:52 PM   #395
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Update out, refresh. Appears to be a bunch of cookies for 100 trillion each, for 15% income.

And what Velo said lol.
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Upgrade: Get lucky:
Cost: 77,777,777,777,777
Desc: Golden cookie effects last twice as long.
Unlock: Click 77 golden cookies.

Upgrade: Sacrificial rolling pin:
Cost: 28,888,888,888,888
Desc: Elder pledge last twice as long.
Unlock: Buy 10 Elder pledges.

Upgrade: Snickerdoodles, Stroopwafels, Macaroons:
Cost: 99,999,999,999,999
Desc: All cookie income +15%.
Unlock: Earn 999,999,999,999 Cookies.
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Old 09-3-2013, 08:23 PM   #397
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Really useful update. This is going to make things interesting.
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Old 09-3-2013, 08:25 PM   #398
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Wish I could refresh but the server is down or something.
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Old 09-3-2013, 10:58 PM   #399
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782 million cps

Got a wrath cookie that buffed my production by 666x for 20 seconds instead of 6 seconds like the last update. I actually clicked during those 20 seconds and got 4.5 trillion hand made in that time period lol

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Site won't refresh and I closed out of my tab

there goes a lot of cookie production time.
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