TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

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also VT here

2) roundbox
7) inDheart
13) ShadoWolfe

actually, taking out everyone who has been green checked, or claimed a PR, we get this.

there's some bullshit going on, but i've gotta go to work

You're forgetting Antori also hasn't been greenchecked as I said in the post you read where I got that I was VT

[Daikyi]

antori claimed 1 shot roleblocker

[Gradiant]

Home in 5 hours and then I can respond to stuff, swamped at work but im sneaking in reading every little bit and my break

[Antori]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

You're forgetting Antori also hasn't been greenchecked as I said in the post you read where I got that I was VT

either cops can check me if they want I'll let you all know if I'm roleblocking someone before night incase i get targeted

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

antori claimed 1 shot roleblocker

Oh I see what you meant. You were going off the CCCBB setup. You said based on green checks so I thought it'd be off of the cop checks only.

[Daikyi]

i say "after taking out green checks or claimed pr"

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

can you please go in as much depth as you possibly can into what changed your mind? you didn't seem at all on board yesterday and leading into today with an unexplained vote on box doesn't sit well with me without seeing your train of thought

i get to it a bit later, which you might have seen after this. i don't understand his hesitance with considering mml could be the role cop to cover being a cop, and the little vote dance with raeko at the end seems pretty weird in either direction

the first occurring thought to me once i sat down and parsed things was that mml was completely self-resolving, and even though that's not 100% true, i'm not sure the exact reason for that would occur so close to deadline, and i don't see why else someone'd double take there

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

also, tangentially, does anyone remember the last time inD said "fuck you"?

i would believe if it's been a while but now i just wish it could be longer. i'm probably going back down for a break after this one

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

This, written in response to me saying "VOTE BOX", also supports inD saying he had no idea wtf was going on at EoD.

@inD roundbox was one of those three options.

It was FFA / MML / Roundbox that had the highest votes at the point that I made that post. I really wish I could've dropped FFA as an option and added Raeko instead, but I don't think anyone would've listened if I based the options on my own reads, especially after last game

yeah the question there was more meant to be "why not ffa when he was viable" because i didn't understand the whole "roundbox is lock wolf" thing coming from you and mml

Originally Posted by Daikyi

i said all i needed to say in the case of mml, if you're refusing to read on emotion, it boils down to - even if you realize someone's softing, if they're like top wolf as fuck on your radar, you still push them as town there.

still skimming, but claims put us at CCCCBB(T) a.k.a. there's a hidden roleblocker out there still. There's also most likely another role that hasn't claimed, if we're to believe that SK is not present in this setup. this also guarantees the presence of a wolf roleblock.

i don't think i believe antori's claim until an actual roleblocker comes out and claims. gives us an insane POE with what we have. With the lucky chance of 0Ts somehow rolled, then there's actually no godfather to worry about and the lynch pool is incredible

also VT here

2) roundbox
7) inDheart
13) ShadoWolfe

actually, taking out everyone who has been green checked, or claimed a PR, we get this.

there's some bullshit going on, but i've gotta go to work

thus far i'm like, confused if haku has real claimed because he was just talking about hypocopping unless he just means that's where he left his real peeks, but i guess he hasn't denied shado assigning that to him

so much for the worry about mass claim i guess. i am a vanilla town

1-shot rb is only as good of a claim as it is informational, independently of it being antori, because the role is not really accountable to anyone/thing or very verifiable

[inDheart]

so it doesn't get buried in my post, i am claiming vt

was very confused waking up to people claiming

[inDheart]

CC(CC)BB?

just playing at probability/game actions so far, ? seems unlikely T, but (CC) could be TT fairly straightforwardly

so 0T dream is kinda alive but i'm not sure we can believe it until/unless we see either a godfather flip or enough VT flips

in CCCCBBA (for instance) that's
2 town cops
1 town blocker
1 town 1-shot blocker
1 town angel
5x vt
2 wolf role cops
1 wolf roleblocker

we have 4 dead vts, so not quite enough yet. not to mention that setup requires both people left over to have power roles if i've got things down right

this also kinda feels like wolves ran insanely, legendarily bad? they would have had 2 chances at finding a role to kill with a 5/9 shot on each guess and just didn't, and then would have missed a 4/6 (discounting mml) shot the following night with that info. so in lieu of new information i want to spec that this isn't the world

after that i'm not really sure what to do though. i think we absolutely need to resolve a claim because lynching a vt doesn't solve much in any setup, and thankfully this is the right day to be able to do that

[inDheart]

mml, can you run me through why you chose to peek xel again?

[inDheart]

unvote

the wheel of fate is turning

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by inDheart

mml, can you run me through why you chose to peek xel again?

haku can you do the same for your peek choices

[inDheart]

an aside post since apparently i'm the only one here but everyone must deal with my opinions

endgame was ok even though it's hilarious how they deal with one of the major plot elements in it that's traditionally hard to deal with. there are also obvious elements of playing to the fans that just don't work for what kind of fan of those movies i am. it's fun if you're not watching it with a laser focus for detail, which i guess is true of a lot of these movies

i've been playing castlevania: dawn of sorrow and i'm almost done with it. i don't appreciate hammer gouging me by making high potions cost way above rate for what they do, literally only because you can only hold 9x of an item. also finding the secret hint enemies a little annoying

[inDheart]

the 5/9 i posted isn't quite right bc events aren't independent. that actually makes the scenario look even worse

[inDheart]

hold on a sec

was it svaz who had the idea of killing vanillas in a recent game? because if it was then i'm not too worried but maybe someone felt like taking inspiration

i *think* wolves have to know by now what setup we're in if they're making no sk assumption and it seems dangerous to be doing that

[inDheart]

i'm an idiot

if dai and i are both telling the truth then it's never 0T

[inDheart]

CCCCBBT = 2 town cops, 1 town blocker, 1 town 1-shot blocker, 5x vt, 1 SK, 1 wolf role cop, 1 wolf roleblocker, 1 wolf godfather

someone is lock fake up to now

we lynch antori if no full blocker manifests, but other than that we must decide who's lying

gradiant should claim; i don't know why shado removed him from the "yet to claim" pool but we need it

there are a few dyads i could see stalling to make town sort this shit out

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

it's not that he was blocked, but that he checked someone that was dead

this is a false statement btw

a cop gets No Result iff roleblocked

[inDheart]

cop may be the easiest role to fakeclaim for the calculus here

that's kinda weird to think about but it'd be true to OG C9++ as well

[inDheart]

oh i misread dai's thing as a yet-to-claim list as well and therefore neglected to look for shado claiming

that would put the VT count at 7

CCBB???

for TTT: 1 town cop, 1 town blocker, 1 town 1-shot blocker, 6x vt, 1 SK, 1 wolf role cop, 1 wolf roleblocker, 1 wolf godfather

ATT trades the SK for an angel and the VT count is same

more than one person has lied