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Default Rap is technically music

sunfan told me to make this thread

while it fits the technical definition of music I don't really consider it music there's probably not enough pitch for me to call it music

I'll readily admit that I haven't heard a lot of rap (because it's not really the kind of music I listen to) so I could just be listening to bad rap

sunfan seemed to think I would be crucified for posting this here, interested in yalls takes
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Old 12-31-2019, 06:23 AM   #2
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i'd recommend jon lajoie if you want to get into good rap
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you know who else was crucified? jesus

you know who actually predicted dbp was a wolf in the champs game? also jesus
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if shapiro says it's not music, im inclined to believe the man who DESTROYS logic-less leftists with FACTS and KNOWLEDGE
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Old 12-31-2019, 07:54 AM   #5
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people are just meat instruments
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Old 12-31-2019, 09:32 AM   #6
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its not "technically" music
it IS music
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So mumble rap is music? HA
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One way I think you might be able to reframe how you see rap is to looking at the musical backing behind the actual rapping, especially songs that use samples

Here is a song that samples one of my favourite bands, Beach House


Here's the original song


See how Kendrick and his producers manipulated the original song to create something of their own that sounds completely different? While still paying homage to the original and doing it justice.

Not to even mention Kendrick's lyrics, this is a really old track of his but the lyrics to this song kinda changed how I saw relationships back in the day (it's about a guy cheating on his gf just because, through no fault of hers)

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this is bait
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its something he believes
and yes, he did post it because I egged him to do it
its not bait
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Yeah, rap is not technically music. Rap is music by basically any reasonable standards that actual musicians would apply.

People who think rap isn't music are just being arbitrarily normative and probably prejudiced.

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The music in rap has plenty of pitch pretty much all the time. Are you referring to pitch in lyrics? If that's the case, how is music with no lyrics music, but music that would be music with no lyrics, suddenly become not music because a rapper is maintaining a steady pitch in the lyrics? Also, does that mean the band 'Cake' is also not music? He's super monotonous in most of his songs.

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i like these



but that's pretty much it in the whole rap/hiphop genre
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i like these

but that's pretty much it in the whole rap/hiphop genre
How about something like
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but that's pretty much it in the whole rap/hiphop genre
i wouldnt consider that Malaa song rap lol, the genre is called Shallow House (also i love Malaa, i charted notorious actually a while back)

how about someone like nujabes tho thats good rap artist/producer
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does linkin park rapping over their songs count as rap
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does linkin park rapping over their songs count as rap
"Rap Rock" is a genre, of which they were a prime performer, so yes it's rap.
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Rap is not music, its poetry.
"While in rap “songs” the focus is almost solely on the lyrics, and the instrumental part(usually referred to as “beat”) is of little importance. That's why rap isn't really music. Rap is poetry, often paired with a bit of music in the background. “Rap RARELY has any singing"
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Rap is not music, its poetry.
"While in rap “songs” the focus is almost solely on the lyrics, and the instrumental part(usually referred to as “beat”) is of little importance. That's why rap isn't really music. Rap is poetry, often paired with a bit of music in the background. “Rap RARELY has any singing"
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So any band whose lyrics are poetic aren't doing music because the lyrics are poetry?

How about a song that is literally an existing poem set to music:


How about a song that has very poetic lyrics, and the singer is also a poet?


How about a song that is basically about nonsense, is extremely monotonous but isn't rap
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