When does a TWG end?

evilbutterfly · 05-11-2005, 03:28 PM

I thought this was pretty clear, but apparently it's not. In the original TWG I signups it said that the game is over when the wolves have more or equal numbers compared to the humans. http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...wtopic&t=18844

However, certain people (Tass) say that the game ends only when the wolves outnumber the humans. So, if it's a tie, the game keeps going. I for one think that's ridiculous.

So I figured I would ask everybody their thoughts. This really needs to be cleared up, just so we know in future games.

And if you lock this, that just shows your unwillingness to even try to be fair. This topic will not have served its purpose until every TWC member replies and states their case and we officially resolve this.

**lightdarkness** · 05-11-2005, 03:30 PM

If wolves equals humans at night, humans win.

If wolves equal humans during the day, game continues.

Wolves > humans at night, well duah.

Benny1 · 05-11-2005, 03:30 PM

say you have two wolves and two humans.
Kill a wolf, wolf kills a human, human and wolf is left
what happens then?

**alainbryden** · 05-11-2005, 03:31 PM

What happens when there's one wolf and one human left? exactly.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-11-2005, 03:32 PM

eb... ::sigh:: I expect more from you.

I explain the reasons, clearly, to SEVEN different people in jTWG....

and yet more and more people keep IMing me telling me i'm WRONG. Want to know something? I wrote the rules. I am not wrong.

And, I updated it to be VERY clear: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...=316374#316374

**lightdarkness** · 05-11-2005, 03:32 PM

Knife in box

blahblah18 · 05-11-2005, 03:35 PM

one wolf and one human in daytime is played fiferently everywhere...

Some people call it a tie, although I feel this is incorrect.

Some call it a wolf win (the assumption being thats since no one can get a plurality vote, no one dies during the day and then the wolf wins at night)

Some call it a random who wins(which seems to be the idea sponsored here based on the knife-in-box scenario... each one will vote for the other, and then knife-in-box would determind the winner)

So it seems that under the rule set we use, it should be random, since we use knife-in-box to determine lynches during ties...

Personally, I think wolf win makes more sense, but that would alter the way we do all rounds, so it is my opinion that for games here, it shoudl be a random choice, and therefore game GOES on during the day of 2 H vs 2 W

**Tasselfoot** · 05-11-2005, 03:41 PM

One last thing.... all of you god damn idiots were quoting Chardish's rule from the beginning of TWG1.

But, none of you bothered to see how TWG1 played out... because, oh... thats right... you WEREN'T PLAYING TWG YET.

Well, as I played in TWG1, and this directly effected me as a wolf in that game... I clearly remembered it.

Check page 12:

Quote:

Originally Posted by chardish

It is now Day 5.

ATTENTION: There are 6 players left, and there were originally 3 wolves. Meaning, if you have failed to catch any wolves yet, and you don't catch one today, it's game over for the humans.

**Kilgamayan** · 05-11-2005, 05:14 PM

Wolves = humans in the middle of the day goes to a tie-breaker (assuming the vote is tied at the end of the day). If you want to understand it intuitively, assume the host's character is also present and is a human. Tadah, humans outnumber wolves.

View Poll Results: When is the game over?
Wolves = Humans	3	100.00%
Wolves > Humans	0	0%
Voters: 3. You may not vote on this poll

05-11-2005, 03:28 PM	#1
evilbutterfly FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Small town, TN Age: 37 Posts: 5,784	When does a TWG end? I thought this was pretty clear, but apparently it's not. In the original TWG I signups it said that the game is over when the wolves have more or equal numbers compared to the humans. http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...wtopic&t=18844 However, certain people (Tass) say that the game ends only when the wolves outnumber the humans. So, if it's a tie, the game keeps going. I for one think that's ridiculous. So I figured I would ask everybody their thoughts. This really needs to be cleared up, just so we know in future games. And if you lock this, that just shows your unwillingness to even try to be fair. This topic will not have served its purpose until every TWC member replies and states their case and we officially resolve this. __________________ So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =( In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz. So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright. And I write the blog for their website. Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

05-11-2005, 03:30 PM	#2
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 11,308	RE: When does a TWG end? If wolves equals humans at night, humans win. If wolves equal humans during the day, game continues. Wolves > humans at night, well duah. __________________

05-11-2005, 03:31 PM	#4
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	RE: When does a TWG end? What happens when there's one wolf and one human left? exactly. __________________ ~NEIGH

05-11-2005, 03:32 PM	#5
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	RE: When does a TWG end? eb... ::sigh:: I expect more from you. I explain the reasons, clearly, to SEVEN different people in jTWG.... and yet more and more people keep IMing me telling me i'm WRONG. Want to know something? I wrote the rules. I am not wrong. And, I updated it to be VERY clear: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...=316374#316374 __________________ RIP

05-11-2005, 03:30 PM	#3
Benny1 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The time was prophesied that will approach surely. Age: 32 Posts: 1,146	RE: When does a TWG end? say you have two wolves and two humans. Kill a wolf, wolf kills a human, human and wolf is left what happens then? __________________

05-11-2005, 03:32 PM	#6
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 11,308	RE: When does a TWG end? Knife in box __________________

05-11-2005, 03:35 PM	#7
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	RE: When does a TWG end? one wolf and one human in daytime is played fiferently everywhere... Some people call it a tie, although I feel this is incorrect. Some call it a wolf win (the assumption being thats since no one can get a plurality vote, no one dies during the day and then the wolf wins at night) Some call it a random who wins(which seems to be the idea sponsored here based on the knife-in-box scenario... each one will vote for the other, and then knife-in-box would determind the winner) So it seems that under the rule set we use, it should be random, since we use knife-in-box to determine lynches during ties... Personally, I think wolf win makes more sense, but that would alter the way we do all rounds, so it is my opinion that for games here, it shoudl be a random choice, and therefore game GOES on during the day of 2 H vs 2 W __________________ but for now... postCount++

05-11-2005, 05:14 PM	#9
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	RE: When does a TWG end? Wolves = humans in the middle of the day goes to a tie-breaker (assuming the vote is tied at the end of the day). If you want to understand it intuitively, assume the host's character is also present and is a human. Tadah, humans outnumber wolves. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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