TWG CLXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

[Charu]

Originally Posted by roundbox

fuck
is it MML???

I'm still of the opinion that one specific post he made 7 minutes pass phase shift where Syhto died still is one of the strongest pieces of evidence to support he's town.

[Hakulyte]

Yeah, I tend to believe he's town as well despite the wagon looking "pure".

[roundbox]

haku?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by roundbox

haku?

I don't get the why regardless of how you want to interpret how I look.

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm still of the opinion that one specific post he made 7 minutes pass phase shift where Syhto died still is one of the strongest pieces of evidence to support he's town.

I would like 2 remind u that this is very, very easy to fake

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I don't get the why regardless of how you want to interpret how I look.

looking at the wagons again and their independent voters, I think I'm actually moving more towards the conclusion that fg was a hard miss

I don't think your EOD entrance looks good
I don't think your vote looks good, especially the timing and the justification
you also wanted to pursue neeee even after his replacement into the anti-pearl slot
you've been complaining about not being able to make a good town circle, but you've had some hard defenses of people and have been consistently townreading players like charu and thesunfan

[roundbox]

my brain feels like a ping pong table right now. taking a short break

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I don't think your EOD entrance looks good
I don't think your vote looks good, especially the timing and the justification
you also wanted to pursue neeee even after his replacement into the anti-pearl slot
you've been complaining about not being able to make a good town circle, but you've had some hard defenses of people and have been consistently townreading players like charu and thesunfan

Pretty hard to answer this without going into ugly self-meta.

They are objectively valid reasons. They're unfortunately not the reality of this game and I feel like I won't be able to prove that in any way.

Yeah, I feel ya. That sucks.

[Hakulyte]

Well, if you can't solve me by tone this game, you're unlikely to solve me because actions do look weak.

I didn't really filter anything in how I played to "appear good". I just had thoughts while reading and thrown them on the table to see what happens.

So, no excuses here. It just didn't occur to me that weaker plays > being wolf vs town.

[mellon_collie]

I’m so so sorry for not being around until now, this game could not have started at a worse time for me.

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

hey raeko why did you vote fg when mml was a wagon?

i mean this sounds like someone said something that contradicted your read on fg but if you had her as townie i would think that it would take more than that to vote for them over mml who you had in your possible wolf pile.

Realizing that she had parked her vote (on me specifically) did just change my mind that much. I was also worried about not dying myself and the FG wagon seemed more likely than MML when I made my vote.

I’m caught up but if you asked me a question and I missed it, sorry.

[mellon_collie]

So I know I was on the train for both Prec and FG's lynches but I'm thinking it's basically impossible for them to have both been wolves.

I'm feeling like Prec was likely a hit. I thought and still think he was wolfy for not engaging with the thread, which yes he always does but still. It's just a bit too convenient and his tone wasn't sitting right with me.

FG on the other hand I think was likely a miss. After looking at how the wagon formed as other people have pointed out it does seem a bit suspect. I did think it was wolfy for her to park her vote on me, but until that point I had been feeling that she was human and now looking back I'm not as confident about my vote as I was on Friday night after I'd had a bit of wine.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Have your reads on people changed since last EOD?

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Charu

I quickly rescinded that post when I re-read his mini-read list not too further in, so no worries.

The wording on this is ew

Originally Posted by inDheart

lol @ the repetition

can you pick some of those posts outside haku's wolf range out

The entire bit where he got pissed with me last phase.
Please don't make me invest the time to quote it but if I have to I absolutely can. I know you remember it happening though because it was a talking point.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm with family this weekend so I haven't been keeping up

why do I have votes

Because your EoD is ass and I won't allow you to just sidestep me this time.

Originally Posted by roundbox

MML I have a question for:
-Which 2 of the 4 people on the FG wagon do you think are suspicious now that neeee is dead? I can assume raeko is one, but who's the other?

DaBackPack, the person I'm actually voting for.
That pos was made in a sea of posts where I was calling DBP out, so I don't get your confusion.

Originally Posted by roundbox

mml's and fg's, mostly because they were "gimme reads list or die".

You're ignoring that she posted reads, then forgot she posted reads and said she had none and wouldnt just make them up, just to turn like <10 minutes around later and say that she did have reads but we should go searching for them, as if she couldn't remember them in time but felt that she needed to respond right then.

Saying that my vote was because she wouldn't jump through my hoop fast enough is flat out wrong. Go read that whole exchange again and tell with a straight face that she has town's interest in mind.

Originally Posted by roundbox

fuck
is it MML???

No, it isn't. both wagons where a miss.

FG Wagon was the wagon where the wolves where trying to save one of their own if anything. My wagon was town derping in response to that.
That or both wagons are unclean but right now I'm going to say that Angry Lar was wrong at EoD and the 2/3 wolves where voting FG.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm surprised MML didn't self-pres. That probably doesn't mean much tho.

Sais this before I'm sure but self pres votes are garbage and you gotta make a stand.

Your votes are what people go back and look at. God knows I can't ever get people to go back and actually read my posts.

[MixMasterLar]

Roundbox you're on the right track with that EoD analysis so hardcore that I'm actually pretty close to just locking you in green forever but I am telling you that Haku is a miss.

It's DBP and Raeko that you need to be getting on right now.


Also like I said, if DBP is a hit then judging from the Charu Wagon from d0 that pretty much clears Charu. I think I was the only one still convinced he was a wolf though but I'm pretty much of the mind he's town right now.

[MixMasterLar]

I guess I should fess up that I was wrong about being more active. Sorry about that guys I feel pretty bad about it.

I swear I do have legit reasons this time, the very basic version is that I have two room mates right now

The unbasic version involves story with more rum so we'll save that for postgame

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Have your reads on people changed since last EOD?

Oh definitely.

Manti is trending down for me. I tend to agree with haku on this point

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I don't see Manti shifting gears into trying to solve anything. I just see safe plays overall that doesn't affect the game much.

Considering this is the 3rd phase, I feel like that's abnormal.

I haven't seen much of an investigative spirit from Manti. He seemed to give roundbox a pass for an unknown reason which I also found to be odd.

I generally still like haku but this part of that same post skeeves me out a wee bit because of the potential of blue baiting

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

There's also the risk that blue roles may have died and if that's not the case, this sounds like a decent opportunity for the PoE of this phase.

But, overall I think I still like haku

I also like indheart, reading his posts remind me strongly of games I've played with him in the past where he was town.

[DaBackpack]

I haven't caught up but I'm going to phonepost

MML... you're daft if you don't understand what my reasoning on FG was

she threw shade at somebody that was largely gonna die, left a vote on somebody who almost always was going to flounder, and then left

FG predicted that Raeko was going to be lynched and placed a safe vote that nobody would challenge, and she would never ever have to defend unless she was actually present at EOD. PS she wasn't

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

I generally still like haku but this part of that same post skeeves me out a wee bit because of the potential of blue baiting

Yeah, I guess they can do whatever they want.

Right now, it's like I'm stuck waiting for Manti/DBP and I wouldn't be surprised if the EoD turns weird again because of it.

It's awkward to have my lynch pool be absent specifically now.

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

You're ignoring that she posted reads, then forgot she posted reads and said she had none and wouldnt just make them up, just to turn like <10 minutes around later and say that she did have reads but we should go searching for them, as if she couldn't remember them in time but felt that she needed to respond right then.

Saying that my vote was because she wouldn't jump through my hoop fast enough is flat out wrong. Go read that whole exchange again and tell with a straight face that she has town's interest in mind.

I did have reads, I just didn't want to make a reads LIST because I was already posting my reads that I naturally had. If I had made a reads list with every single player listed, that would have involved pulling reads out of my ass for those people who I was still in the process of figuring out. I was a bit drunk and probably not very good at explaining myself so that's my bad but I still don't get why this is so complicated

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I haven't caught up but I'm going to phonepost

MML... you're daft if you don't understand what my reasoning on FG was

she threw shade at somebody that was largely gonna die, left a vote on somebody who almost always was going to flounder, and then left

FG predicted that Raeko was going to be lynched and placed a safe vote that nobody would challenge, and she would never ever have to defend unless she was actually present at EOD. PS she wasn't

I'm not the first person to point out that it always looked like the intention was for her to come back before EoD and see how she felt.

Raeko had actually been posting more then normal for a good chunk of the game with still very little being contributed. Leaving a pressure vote while you're away makes sense.

You are straight up wrong on your tinfoil and no amount of repeating it and hoping people drop it is gonna change the fact. And make no mistake that whole FG predicting shit theory is the flimsiest of tinfoils.