Transgender AMA

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Medley

Another trans person coming in with a question to another:

What is your experience with body hair like? I am kind of manic about it, a more minor case of TTM/DTM, though with electrolysis that should be a lesser issue for you.

i couldn't stand all the hair on my legs before i started taking hormones so i used to shave it every once in awhile but after i started taking hormones for 6-12 months there has been a lot less hair on my legs even when i don't shave

i also detested the hair on my face so i kept shaving it every day and every once in awhile i accidentally cut my face a little and about two years after i started taking hormones i cut my face that day and i was on the bus with someone in one of my classes and we were talking and she noticed i had a cut on my face and she asked how it happened and thought it was because i got an injury so i ended up crying in front of her and i decided i would get electrolysis

i've been getting electrolysis for about two years total not including the time i've been getting it on and off and the hair on my face is almost completely gone even after 6 months or so

*edit* also it's really annoying getting electrolysis because it takes a long time for the hair on my face to stop growing back so i feel the hair on my face to see how much hair is left even right after electrolysis because even after 3 or 4 hours they don't get every single hair

[andy-o24]

Born male transitioned to female, what gender are you attracted to romantically?

-o24

[komochii]

All of them

-o24

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

if gender is a social construct in and of itself, then how can you feel like another social construct?

In the transgender context, I believe it's a realization after facing enough situations to evaluate yourself and making enough connections that it doesn't make sense to feel any other way.

So, you don't "feel like another social construct"; you simply realize that the other social construct had more weight than the initial one for yourself.

btw, gender is used to identify a group while gender identity is used to identify the individual.

It's a little weird to formulate your question that way.

Gender identity is what should truly matter for this question, but gender identity is not a social construct.

I hope I'm not confusing with terminology.

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

Originally Posted by andy-o24

Born male transitioned to female, what gender are you attracted to romantically?

-o24

i'm attracted to boys

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

In the transgender context, I believe it's a realization after facing enough situations to evaluate yourself and making enough connections that it doesn't make sense to feel any other way.

So, you don't "feel like another social construct"; you simply realize that the other social construct had more weight than the initial one for yourself.

btw, gender is used to identify a group while gender identity is used to identify the individual.

It's a little weird to formulate your question that way.

Gender identity is what should truly matter for this question, but gender identity is not a social construct.

I hope I'm not confusing with terminology.

Oh okay. IDK much about gender studies and stuff, so sorry if I'm using terms incorrectly. Why is gender identity not a social construct?

[mellonxcollie]

Disclaimer: I am not trans. Just feminist trying to explain as best I can

Back in the day people considered gender to be a binary thing. You were either male or female, and this gender was based on your biological sex characteristics. Nowadays people realize that gender isn't binary, it's a spectrum, and people can land on the spectrum pretty much anywhere.

Gender identity is realizing for yourself where you, personally, fit into the gender spectrum of society. The spectrum itself is a construct but your gender identity is something you find for yourself, about where you fit into that construct personally.

A lot of people consider themselves to be "non-binary" people. and this just means they either don't believe in the gender binary/societal constructs, or they believe they do not have a place within them and they do not fit society's traditional male/female constructs.

[dadcop2]

damn u must be on another spectrum to be this woke

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

Oh okay. IDK much about gender studies and stuff, so sorry if I'm using terms incorrectly. Why is gender identity not a social construct?

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Gender identity is realizing for yourself where you, personally, fit into the gender spectrum of society. The spectrum itself is a construct but your gender identity is something you find for yourself, about where you fit into that construct personally.

A lot of people consider themselves to be "non-binary" people. and this just means they either don't believe in the gender binary/societal constructs, or they believe they do not have a place within them and they do not fit society's traditional male/female constructs.

That's pretty much it.

[rayword45]

Originally Posted by dadcop2

damn u must be on another spectrum to be this woke

are these the jokes we're gonna get when the alt-whiteys become dads

[MinaciousGrace]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

Oh okay. IDK much about gender studies and stuff, so sorry if I'm using terms incorrectly. Why is gender identity not a social construct?

ivy

[MinaciousGrace]

i mean gravy

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

someone please ask me something else D:

[MinaciousGrace]

news flash reality is a social construct

we're all just metanthropromorphized marbles bumping into a deterministic set of pegs as you non-metaphorically fall to death

[MinaciousGrace]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Back in the day people considered gender to be a binary thing. You were either male or female, and this gender was based on your biological sex characteristics. Nowadays people realize that gender isn't binary, it's a spectrum, and people can land on the spectrum pretty much anywhere.

unsurprisingly the only thing going on in this thread is tautological semantic balloons being twisted into various metaphors or idioms such as chickens and/or eggs and hamster wheels, so I'll do my part. You[people/society] can't realize something about a social construct. You can realize effects or causes or trends or deficiencies in current systems but you can't realize that gender is or isn't something else because society created it, there's nothing external to the definition of it in the conscious frame of society to realize. You can't realize that, actually, there are only 6 languages (i'm warning you don't bring this example up to a linguist.) That doesn't make sense. The biological need for specialization directed early roles of males/females in nomadic cultures. Society created gender as sex became obsolete. It's whatever we want it to be. It exists to allow us a malleable format of an intrinsic biological property that we may adjust as needed. There's nothing to realize about it.

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Gender identity is realizing for yourself where you, personally, fit into the gender spectrum of society. The spectrum itself is a construct but your gender identity is something you find for yourself, about where you fit into that construct personally.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Gender identity is what should truly matter for this question, but gender identity is not a social construct.

anything derivative of an existing social construct is by definition a social construct so i don't see where this thread of logic goes or what the point is

oh wait i do it's just thought-acidic pablum to be regurgitated after ingesting any stimulus of thought for fear of retaining any of it

that's definitely not a bulimia joke

actually it is

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

A lot of people consider themselves to be "non-binary" people. and this just means they either don't believe in the gender binary/societal constructs, or they believe they do not have a place within them and they do not fit society's traditional male/female constructs.

i don't necessarily disagree with you on the general points here but i still think you're an idiot

[MinaciousGrace]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

Oh okay. IDK much about gender studies and stuff, so sorry if I'm using terms incorrectly. Why is gender identity not a social construct?

tbh this is probably the best post in the thread, that's a low bar for the rest of you

i never understood how people who say we shouldn't be defined by traditional gender roles can spend their entire lives defining themselves relative to traditional gender roles with zero self awareness

tl;dr you're all dumb and why do you care so much

[MinaciousGrace]

Originally Posted by drizzleRomanceGirl

someone please ask me something else D:

why aren't people more capable of forcefully advocating positions on this subject

trick question people are stupid

no seriously though it's legitimately baffling to me

[Funnygurl555]

who hurt you

[Hakulyte]

Mina is right.

#end of argument

[MinaciousGrace]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

who hurt you

oh sorry i must not have gotten the memo where i wasn't supposed to spend half the thread hammering both incorrectly and pointlessly on syntactic liberties

does this memo also say that we should continue the dynamic where i make rational arguments and you get butthurt because i say something you don't like or are we shivving that