08-26-2014, 05:00 PM | #41 |
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08-26-2014, 05:01 PM | #42 |
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there's no sense in making a radical change over something so trivial given that it's interchangeable terminology for the same thing. if you're going to call someone an idiot, don't call the idea that you're so aggressively proposing trivial -- it doesn't help at all. |
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08-26-2014, 05:53 PM | #44 |
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tji stargroup looks like an idiot
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08-26-2014, 05:57 PM | #45 |
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hi kisler what brings you here
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Wafles is an example of someone who got heated over a suggestion, even though he makes no argument for why he holds his position. Which is totally separate from the right to hold that position. It's like me advising him not to drink rat poison, but although he doesn't have a reason to drink it, he gets mad at me saying he has the right to do what he wants. (Except obviously the severity of the two issues is totally different.)
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I did come across as an idiot, yes, but I did so with adequate reason.
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I'm out. Have fun with the elitism and whatnot. Last edited by Wafles; 08-26-2014 at 07:18 PM.. |
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nope, none at all. there are plenty of words whose original meaning or etymology suggests something different or even opposite of their current meaning, that's just how semantic progression works. comfort and habit is pretty much all it comes down to. Last edited by ilikexd; 08-26-2014 at 08:45 PM.. |
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08-26-2014, 08:56 PM | #51 |
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I disagree with you here. I would agree that it's not the wrong term, but I would not agree that it's the right term.
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08-26-2014, 09:05 PM | #52 |
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i like to chart on leaves that will clearly make a crunch sound when i walk places
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a term used to describe something can only be right or wrong; there is no middle ground for terms.
your reasoning for it not being a right term (or wrong term) is that there's a connotation to dance games with the word 'step'. while it is true that that is ultimately the origin of the word, there is no longer a strong connotation with the dance game movement. i have been stepping/charting for a while now and i can't remember having ever looked at the word 'step' and pictured feet moving. it's a word when used in keyboard context holds no such connotation for me, and i wonder how much it would for other people. words that mean one thing can have their origins in other word that meant a similar/comparable thing, but not an equivalent one, and over time, that original meaning is totally forgotten. that's the deal with 'step'. arbitrarily regressing and looking at where the word came from instead of what it currently means as a reason to not use it anymore is a pretty weird thing to do |
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I create works of art I'm a creationist
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It is also the reason I couldn't get a lot of my friends to join me over the years, because they didn't view it as its own game, but rather "trying to be DDR" or a "rip-off of DDR" or "why play that when you can play DDR". (These are some but not all of the excuses my friends have given me, true story.) Quote:
Whether or not one believes there is still such a group of people (because I'm sure there are going to be those who use this excuse) doesn't change the fact that I think the benefits outweigh the costs, and that is the sole reason for making almost any decision.
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i simply don't see referring to simfiling as 'stepping' as something that in any way gives the keyboard community a bad impression. and again of course, i don't think anyone would try to use 'step' with a person who isn't familiar. Last edited by ilikexd; 08-26-2014 at 10:00 PM.. |
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08-26-2014, 10:20 PM | #59 |
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But then something else doesn't really make much sense. Why would you use different terms on the outside and inside when they mean the same thing and are explicitly and easily interchangeable? I think it's better to just stick to one, the one that makes sense.
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08-26-2014, 10:25 PM | #60 |
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semantics are the least of stepmania's problems
you're talking about a term less than 1% of the people who have played a single song in this game have seen or heard that shit doesn't matter when the barrier to entry and lack of centralization is fucking stupid, especially when there's a huge incentive not to fix the latter (and by association the former)
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