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Old 02-3-2008, 02:27 PM   #1
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Default Photoshop Outsmarted Me Once Again, Help Please?

I'm about to pull my freakin' hair out, although the answer's probably simple.

I have this image:

and this image:

I want to change the white parts of that first one to transparent and put it on the second image, but I can't figure out how! >.<"

I'm using some outdated version of Photoshop Elements (version 3.0 I think) that I got for free, because I don't have $750 to blow on CS3 or something like that.

Please help if you can. x.x
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Old 02-3-2008, 04:15 PM   #2
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you can render the image with the pen tool(at least i think thats whats it called)
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Old 02-3-2008, 04:39 PM   #3
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set the alpha or whatever its called to white. It will set the white parts transparent. Or at least I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
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Old 02-3-2008, 04:47 PM   #4
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set the alpha or whatever its called to white. It will set the white parts transparent. Or at least I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
if you do that any thing thats light will be alittle transparent too
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Old 02-3-2008, 05:04 PM   #5
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I think I know what you're trying to do and you don't have to make the white transparent. Just make a copy of the first layer, use the magic wand tool to select the white area and push delete. Then drag that layer on top of the 2nd image and presto! Stars for background instead of white. I think that's what your going for.
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Old 02-3-2008, 07:31 PM   #6
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What the guy above me said. That is the easiest way to do it.
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Old 02-3-2008, 07:42 PM   #7
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What the guy above me said. That is the easiest way to do it.
Also the worst way. Unless the image you want to render has a 100% solid white (or other color) background and the image happens to have no sort of anti-alias at all, then using the magic wand tool is the worst thing to do.

Take your pen tool and trace the image, then cut it out. The pen tool automatically creates it's own anti-alias around whatever you cut out so it will be smooth.

Alternatively, you can simply trace parts of the image at a time, and cut out around it.

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Here's a quick render.

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Old 02-4-2008, 03:35 PM   #8
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Remember: You have to be smarter than the machine...
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What are you trying to say?

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Old 02-4-2008, 09:54 PM   #10
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Here ya go Crash, not as good as I could have done but w/e.
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Also the worst way. Unless the image you want to render has a 100% solid white (or other color) background and the image happens to have no sort of anti-alias at all, then using the magic wand tool is the worst thing to do.

Take your pen tool and trace the image, then cut it out. The pen tool automatically creates it's own anti-alias around whatever you cut out so it will be smooth.

Alternatively, you can simply trace parts of the image at a time, and cut out around it.

EDIT:
Here's a quick render.
It has a tolerance setting...

And for everything else, you can just use an eraser, or just use the pen tool... I never really knew that the pen tool had anti-aliasing... I'll have to use that for future rendering...
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Old 02-4-2008, 10:19 PM   #12
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Ahaha... thread got ahead of me in my short absence :O

I'm gonna go with arrekusu's method, looks like the best for quality, plus he explained it the best. Just hope I can figure out how to do it...
Oh, and thanks for the image richyrich, but not quit what I was going for. I wanted to put in a few extra things if I can figure out how, plus try to stretch the width to at least 700 pixels. This was supposed to be a profile banner because my current profile design not only sucks, but it's out of date. If I could just find a better stars/space template. Might use that miage for a sig though, if I can make some room >.<
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Alex pretty much covered it, but there's a few extra things I've found useful.

I use the eraser tool when I extract images, softer when the anti-alias is softer, harder when it's sharper... yeah. But of course, I'll cut in to the image on accident sometimes. When you do this... Select the history brush. Then, select a history state before you started erasing out the background, and the history brush will recreate everything from that state (so in this case, you're brushing back in the image...) Yeah. And another thing I've found fun, is, in an image with a distinct outline... if you accidentally erase in to the outline, you can recreate the outline with the pen tool.

And there's one other thing... when you extract something, change the color of the background so it looks good on all colors. If you extract it over a white background, you'll typically find that there's still a lot of white when you change the background to black. But if you change it to black, and the image has a black outline, you can cut in to the outline without noticing...

Yeah. Hope some of that helps.
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Old 02-4-2008, 10:29 PM   #14
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Sweet, thanks, Silvuh! ^^

Oh, one more thing, I know the red and blue clash, but I forgot to change the color when I uploaded it. The one I have saved on my PC is a deep red which looks lots better :P
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Old 02-5-2008, 05:55 PM   #15
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Alex pretty much covered it, but there's a few extra things I've found useful.

I use the eraser tool when I extract images, softer when the anti-alias is softer, harder when it's sharper... yeah. But of course, I'll cut in to the image on accident sometimes. When you do this... Select the history brush. Then, select a history state before you started erasing out the background, and the history brush will recreate everything from that state (so in this case, you're brushing back in the image...) Yeah. And another thing I've found fun, is, in an image with a distinct outline... if you accidentally erase in to the outline, you can recreate the outline with the pen tool.

And there's one other thing... when you extract something, change the color of the background so it looks good on all colors. If you extract it over a white background, you'll typically find that there's still a lot of white when you change the background to black. But if you change it to black, and the image has a black outline, you can cut in to the outline without noticing...

Yeah. Hope some of that helps.

As for the background color, I try to use a completely neutral color. The hex code is somewhere around 8C8C8C (gray).
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Old 02-5-2008, 07:51 PM   #16
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NIIICE! i need to start using my photoshop again
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