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Old 01-25-2017, 06:31 AM   #201
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seer hunt clear simply means i throw out a fake and if i get bussed or vigi'd unexpectedly and flip green the person i peeked is cleared because it was obvious the wolves killed me
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but in that position where wolves don't know who the seer is and might try to kill them because they provide the strongest value to the human team, pretending to be seer with a n0 peek during d1
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because the intention was to just throw it out there and see if something stuck, i never intended to die because of it
Fucking read your own posts. I'm pushing you because you're contradicting yourself and you're not making sense in your claimed intentions.
Your response has been describing things to me as if you're teaching me something while using terms incorrectly at the same time. You can't seerhunt clear someone without dying. You can't get bussed if you're not a wolf. You don't get vigi'd by someone who isn't a vigi.


I'm gonna try this again now, and please respond by actually addressing my questions instead of "linking me a game with SHC in it"

"I'm getting mixed signals here. A person (lito in the example you used earlier) is seer hunt cleared as town when the scumteam kills someone (you) with a fake peek on them (in an attempt to hunt the seer).
How did you plan on SHC anyone if you didn't intend to die?

What did you hope to gain out of it in the day phase? What could "stick"?
There's no way you could have "died unexpectedly" lol it's either you intended to SHC lito (your pregious claim) by dying or you didnt intend to die (your claim now) and it was never supposed to SHC anyone. "
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:36 AM   #202
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i think maybe you are expecting the sort of calculation and control of a mastermind or something and aren't satisfied when i deliver less than that because youn want to best someone who is pulling many strings or something, which you aren't doing right now. you're harping on something that the better angels of your judgment don't fully believe but your desire to clinch a day one kill is causing your ego to inflate to the point of tunnel vision.

i haven't played this game seriously since 2015 so my memory is foggy and how i should proceed is dictated by ideas that maybe arent relevant anymore, but i basically opened the phase by posting shit that i thought would get it going. a shc and a probabilistic guess at the night kill, then lito was very excited and i had to respond before things got ridiculous, so i've just been posting my thoughts since then trying to salvage what is an easy fucking kill for the wolves
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:37 AM   #203
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and i probably think this is the case so i'm going to out that my ally was indheart. wolves most likely know this so they now have to guess my adversary for a free night kill

also i'm clear
Oh..

Well, you change your allegiances every night, so they don't get that free night kill after all
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:37 AM   #204
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Fucking read your own posts. I'm pushing you because you're contradicting yourself and you're not making sense in your claimed intentions.
Your response has been describing things to me as if you're teaching me something while using terms incorrectly at the same time. You can't seerhunt clear someone without dying. You can't get bussed if you're not a wolf. You don't get vigi'd by someone who isn't a vigi.


I'm gonna try this again now, and please respond by actually addressing my questions instead of "linking me a game with SHC in it"

"I'm getting mixed signals here. A person (lito in the example you used earlier) is seer hunt cleared as town when the scumteam kills someone (you) with a fake peek on them (in an attempt to hunt the seer).
How did you plan on SHC anyone if you didn't intend to die?

What did you hope to gain out of it in the day phase? What could "stick"?
There's no way you could have "died unexpectedly" lol it's either you intended to SHC lito (your pregious claim) by dying or you didnt intend to die (your claim now) and it was never supposed to SHC anyone. "
where does any of that contradict the idea that i was taking a shot in the dark? when do i believe what i do is anything stronger than that?
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:38 AM   #205
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im just a rude person! wolf probably hit a green where their ally is a wolf
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and i probably think this is the case so i'm going to out that my ally was indheart. wolves most likely know this so they now have to guess my adversary for a free night kill

also i'm clear
No you're not. Others might have listed him as thiers or you could be a wolf lying thier ass off.

In no way are you even close to clear, Freakysnots . You wanna try and redo that garbage tier entrance?
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:38 AM   #206
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Default Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries - GAME THREAD

maybe since you are caught up on semantics and correct usage of words we should come to an understanding about the phrase "shot in the dark" and maybe see if coming to an agreement on that parlance helps us glean something meaningful???
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:43 AM   #207
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[quote=Vendetta21;4513166]i think maybe you are expecting the sort of calculation and control of a mastermind or something and aren't satisfied when i deliver less than that because youn want to best someone who is pulling many strings or something, which you aren't doing right now. you're harping on something that the better angels of your judgment don't fully believe but your desire to clinch a day one kill is causing your ego to inflate to the point of tunnel vision.
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Lol I swear this isn't even close to being the case. I just wanted my sentences that end with question marks to be answered and not responded to with links to shit I don't need to read. I appreciate that you've even stuck around this long tbh, but do try to see things from my perspective as well and not just from the preconceptions you hold about my perspective.

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i haven't played this game seriously since 2015 so my memory is foggy and how i should proceed is dictated by ideas that maybe arent relevant anymore, but i basically opened the phase by posting shit that i thought would get it going. a shc and a probabilistic guess at the night kill, then lito was very excited and i had to respond before things got ridiculous, so i've just been posting my thoughts since then trying to salvage what is an easy fucking kill for the wolves
Fair enough. My one question and then we can both stop vomiting the entire library of babel onto this thread: When you posted your peek, were you intending to die in order to SHC lito?
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i guess, in other words, i didn't intend to SHC anyone. but there was a chance i might have, when you stop thinking as the move as having a direct 1:1 correlation with results and instead having a possible correlation with results if i got lucky
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Fair enough. My one question and then we can both stop vomiting the entire library of babel onto this thread: When you posted your peek, were you intending to die in order to SHC lito?
no i didnt intend to die, i only intended to pretend to be the seer indirectly and then if i did happen to die early somehow based on the context then we could reasonably clear those people simply because a few people who know the strategy are in this game
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but it also doesn't matter if i actually SHC someone, it still, if it had worked, makes parsing out the situation harder for wolves, who have an inherent advantage and usually can get a sense by the end of d1
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many trees of my logic stem from the basic premise: doesn't matter if it does or doesn't work
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Oh c'mom Freaky ain't you got more for me? I was hoping for a response before bed
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Speaking of bed I plan to sleep in hardcore so when is EoD? Dont wanna miss it
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i guess, in other words, i didn't intend to SHC anyone. but there was a chance i might have, when you stop thinking as the move as having a direct 1:1 correlation with results and instead having a possible correlation with results if i got lucky
Thank you! Whew, there's one thing taken care of. This was my biggest issue with you because of the incongruity of your claimed "SHC" intention with the rest of your descriptions of events.

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no i didnt intend to die, i only intended to pretend to be the seer indirectly and then if i did happen to die early somehow based on the context then we could reasonably clear those people simply because a few people who know the strategy are in this game
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but it also doesn't matter if i actually SHC someone, it still, if it had worked, makes parsing out the situation harder for wolves, who have an inherent advantage and usually can get a sense by the end of d1
Fair enough. While I don't agree with your methods, I can see where you were coming from. I'm pretty much willing to believe you at this point, but I'll have to go back and read your ingenious wolf deceptions in previous games before coming to a conclusion. I feel like I just got done bashing my head against a wall for 6 hours. Does that sound like anything you're experiencing?
lmao smh I'm so done -cries self to sleep-
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Speaking of bed I plan to sleep in hardcore so when is EoD? Dont wanna miss it
Before that, to answer your question: I don't think the two intros were overtly similar, as there were pretty big differences in tone. I wouldn't dwell on it, though, because the differences in setting (the games themselves) would've contributed to that.

What're your thoughts on the shit that's gone down so far? Leaning anyone in any direction?
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i guess yeah, i have been chain-smoking and being like "god is what im doing really that obtuse and complicated this seems so simply in my head"
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Old 01-25-2017, 07:06 AM   #217
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i guess yeah, i have been chain-smoking and being like "god is what im doing really that obtuse and complicated this seems so simply in my head"
Shit I'd kill for a cig or a clove right now, no lie.
Haha I feel it. I wasn't even planning on getting that involved in this game tbh just wanted to play a game in between life. Now it's 5am and I have to pull life back from all the way on the side where I shoved it awhile ago.
Whelp, I'mma finish up and head to bed. Should be back tomorrow around 5pm PST.
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man you guys are night people
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Oh..

Well, you change your allegiances every night, so they don't get that free night kill after all
upon re reading I think I really expected another response from Shado here unless he just skimmed Freaky's posts.

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lmao if that "bussing" slip is real then that's amazing i didnt even process that when i read his post. i'll admit i found Vs play very standard and don't fault people for not knowing that claiming peeks in any role is a good thing to do, but meno's reaction didn't seem villagery. i mean did anyone else snap believe both those claims and declare it a "claim-fest"? seems weird to me
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