Old 07-11-2019, 12:27 PM   #3581
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Okay so WV has claimed that by taking possession of sunfan's item, he's taken sunfan's wincon as well.

So uh...does XelNya now have Antori's "Each night, you must kill. Failure to secure/take responsibility for a kill will result in death. Three strikes and you are out" from taking possession of the gun?
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Okay so WV has claimed that by taking possession of sunfan's item, he's taken sunfan's wincon as well.

So uh...does XelNya now have Antori's "Each night, you must kill. Failure to secure/take responsibility for a kill will result in death. Three strikes and you are out" from taking possession of the gun?
No, because from what Storn has brought to the table, it is most likely just Haku's item. Otherwise, Soundwave would have dragonmega's wincon and that would be LOL.
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Okay so WV has claimed that by taking possession of sunfan's item, he's taken sunfan's wincon as well.

So uh...does XelNya now have Antori's "Each night, you must kill. Failure to secure/take responsibility for a kill will result in death. Three strikes and you are out" from taking possession of the gun?
seems unlikely. I didn't get anything attached to my item (what would I even get? lol)
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13) Xelnya - we're in an interesting position here with xel now that we know that WV is the one who stole the item from sunfan
I think Xel here could be wolfing, real talk
he went for the "I'm going to look very forthcoming with my powers in order to help town solve this thunderdome with sunfan"
He's got a bunch of different items to activate and the ability to refresh those items. He asked people to pick "1" or "4" and would tell them the item description, but lmao, we obviously know that there are other numbers there
there's still information being concealed here which is my big concern
xel would get town cred for going after sunfan, but EVERYONE is against 3p so this doesn't work out as well
First off, fine, i'll claim the lady.

I picked Kaho Reinol from Momodora, which is why I thought shadow would actually have a strong chance to guess.

The items are, in order to what I'd have answered from the the goldstinger thing:

1. Clarity Shard. Tells who visted a person in the night.
2. Faerie Tear. Nope.
3. Magnet Stone. Draws an item to me.
4. Astral Charm. Refreshes the others.

I hinted at least two of these very early on in that post where I was trying to be forth coming about some mechanics.

Which is why I take issue with your read, it's framed in a way that relies on me not having been forthcoming early on in the game.

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allow me to share a a bit of info I may think is relevant

but without explaining why

one of them is likely through an item

all actions are targeted, very much including scum kills I think
Items in the game? Magnet Stone.
Actions are targeted? Clarity Shard.

I super softed two items very early game. The short hand is I've been slowly leaking what I do since early game dude. Sunfan dropping that bomb just sped it up a bit.

I offered goldstinger the extra info because I genuinely made a blunder that yeah to be honest, I should have been on the chopping block for when it happened.
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seems unlikely. I didn't get anything attached to my item (what would I even get? lol)
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but seriously you're wolf to me and I'm probably going to mobile phone vote you while I'm out and about today.
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No, because from what Storn has brought to the table, it is most likely just Haku's item. Otherwise, Soundwave would have dragonmega's wincon and that would be LOL.
Dragonmega was a wolf, the wincon "have parity with town" was inherent to the wolf-ness not her item.

Sunfan's 3p and his wincon was attached to his item
Antori's 3p, so we don't know if this isn't a 3p thing no?

And what do you mean 'it is most likely just haku's item' I thought what he brought to the table was a picture of Antori's waifu holding a gun in her mouth, meaning the gun was Antori's not Haku's
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if anything is attached to the item i think it would be an ability, not the role. like i can see the gun giving like a 1 shot bulletproof or something.
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if anything is attached to the item i think it would be an ability, not the role. like i can see the gun giving like a 1 shot bulletproof or something.
sunfan/WV are literally claiming that sunfan's entire wincon is attached to his item, and now that WV has that item, he has that wincon.
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sunfan/WV are literally claiming that sunfan's entire wincon is attached to his item, and now that WV has that item, he has that wincon.
I think it may have more to do with this specific item than a mechanic that's general to all items
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And what do you mean 'it is most likely just haku's item' I thought what he brought to the table was a picture of Antori's waifu holding a gun in her mouth, meaning the gun was Antori's not Haku's
>- When a player dies, an item from them is placed into the item circulation, thus, revealing of hidden mechanics for each player can be triggered by some of these items.

>Haku's ability is most likely moving items (randomly) from dead people to alive people (targeted)

>Haku didn't know where his item went last night because he targeted the Innocent Child

>Xelnya took it
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item circulation probably contains camera, H&H's item (if there is one), and Resetti's item (if there is one).
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but seriously you're wolf to me and I'm probably going to mobile phone vote you while I'm out and about today.
this is such a bad take and I think you know that
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this is such a bad take and I think you know that
I know it's a bad take for what air everyone else is breathing in the room but to me you've been all over the place in terms of where you want to go / what you want to do this phase.
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Right, but the item, it seems was taken FROM Antori, and given that his wincon was about shooting people or himself, his suicide gun makes me nervous that Xel now has to shoot people or himself.

If there's two kills tonight and they're both town, I'm going to have to push to lynch Xel for the same reason we voted to Lynch Antori, can't have people with 3p wincons that are served by killing town running around.

It -could- be unique to sunfan's item, but what is even the point of giving somebody something called a 'suicide gun' if the only thing it -can- do is possibly kill you?
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The item was taken from Antori when they died

Just like how the item was taken from dragonmega when they died

There's literally no difference from how they died to how the item was given to someone, except that the item from Antori was redirected because of Xelnya's ability.

I have no idea how WV received sunfan's item, and so that is a completely different story.
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I know it's a bad take for what air everyone else is breathing in the room but to me you've been all over the place in terms of where you want to go / what you want to do this phase.
Of course I am when people keep changing the story every hour.

Except...

I'm not. I wanted to kill somebody between sunfan and wv (and I was even apprehensive at the time, and will admit this was probably a knee jerk take) and then I didn't, and that's about the extent of the ways I've wanted to go with this.
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Better go reread FFA's d2 reads then.

Because I'm actually in agreement with FFA on this one.
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I don't think it's the end of the world following ffa on this one, it just doesn't seem the most likely world to me rn.
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but the world where sunfan is wolf must be closely tied to daikyi, and that's a hard mess to detangle.
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