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Old 06-22-2011, 01:49 PM   #21
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Not everyone wants to unlock it to play it. Some people like myself would like to have it just to complete the token collection.
That's also true. It does bug me quite a bit that I have Every non-achievement token Except #18.
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:58 PM   #22
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Keep in mind that the ideal requirement would be something that everyone who has unlocked the token have succeeded in doing vs. those that don't have the token. With the requirement being 95% AAAs, it's arguably unfair to let D1 Winners have the token since they probably don't have the 95%. I believe that skill shouldn't be a factor in the requirement as well because VROFL does not take any skill to FC (let alone pass) the file (unless you actually try to PA the mess lmfao)

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Old 06-22-2011, 02:00 PM   #23
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I hope to god everyone doesn't think I ment in a day, 1bil is hard enough, lmfao. I ment total, not in a timeframe :P

Reading on after I posted...stupid idea, i know :/
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:02 PM   #24
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Well, I really don't see it any other way unless if you make it an anti-skill token (let's say...pass Vertex Beta with more misses than Perfects, goods, and averages combined). that's the only way I see it as. But still, if we solved the issue of vROFL, what about the support tokens? Probably make them achievement tokens or skill tokens?
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:07 PM   #25
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Well, I really don't see it any other way unless if you make it an anti-skill token (let's say...pass Vertex Beta with more misses than Perfects, goods, and averages combined). that's the only way I see it as. But still, if we solved the issue of vROFL, what about the support tokens? Probably make them achievement tokens or skill tokens?
With support tokens, I believe that skill should be involved in the requirements because those files requires skill (definitely more skill than vrofl). With 95% AAAs as the requirement here, that's completely fine. It could also base off of measuring points that distinguishes skill like tier points, maybe average rank, etc.

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Old 06-22-2011, 02:12 PM   #26
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didn't the D1 winners play fmos in one tourney?
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:12 PM   #27
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Some want another Official FFR Tournament, and now some want vROFL to be unlockable just by doing a request.
If there's going to be another FFR Tournament, there will be no special prizes at all besides the vROFL Token, since Subscriber status and FFR T-Shirts are not available anymore. If the vROFL Token is going to be unlockable by doing a request, the FFR Tournament would loose its sense and it would be unfair for those who unlocked it by achieving Top 8 in one of the Tourneys.
Of course you can set the current Support Tokens as a prize for the Official Tournament, but it would be unfair to those who've bought them, etc.

It's not that easy at all and I guess a rather godly request for vROFL would just cause more complaining etc

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Old 06-22-2011, 02:24 PM   #28
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Get 0 perfect, 1755 goods, 0 average, 0 miss and 0 boos on Vertex BETA
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:24 PM   #29
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Xayphon has a point, buuuuuuuuuuuuuut....

Will there ever even be another official tourney? /sad face
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:35 PM   #30
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I can see these sorts of requests for vrofl will become null in the near future, but for reasons I can't say just yet
BECAUSE THE ADMINS/THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON ANOTHER WAY TO GET VROFL?

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Old 06-22-2011, 03:43 PM   #31
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Some want another Official FFR Tournament, and now some want vROFL to be unlockable just by doing a request.
If there's going to be another FFR Tournament, there will be no special prizes at all besides the vROFL Token, since Subscriber status and FFR T-Shirts are not available anymore. If the vROFL Token is going to be unlockable by doing a request, the FFR Tournament would loose its sense and it would be unfair for those who unlocked it by achieving Top 8 in one of the Tourneys.
Of course you can set the current Support Tokens as a prize for the Official Tournament, but it would be unfair to those who've bought them, etc.

It's not that easy at all and I guess a rather godly request for vROFL would just cause more complaining etc
Well, think about it a different way: If the Admins made vROFL available unlockable by doing a request, wouldn't that make the people who won it in the Tourneys feel a larger sense of achievement, because that means they succeeded in taking the hard way that so many people tried and failed to do, instead of taking this simpler way through.
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Default Re: New way for vROFL?

But here's the thing, if its simply a request, then what's the point of making it a token song? Might as well release it as a public song if you're going to do that. Perhaps make it something that's equivalent to getting the top 8 of each division of the FFROT. Make it an achievement token of some sort.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:15 PM   #33
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But here's the thing, if its simply a request, then what's the point of making it a token song? Might as well release it as a public song if you're going to do that. Perhaps make it something that's equivalent to getting the top 8 of each division of the FFROT. Make it an achievement token of some sort.
Now that you've said that, I just got a new idea.


Seeing as how Quickdraw and Here We Go are FC related achievement tokens, couldn't there be a second average rank achievement token, such as getting in the top 500/100, to follow up Happy Rainbow?
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:24 PM   #34
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If becoming a veteran and getting vROFL is out of the question, then placing in the top 200 or so of the top average players could get it, so you have to play a lot to get it. It's not impossible, just takes a lot of time and dedication.
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or get 95+% of your AAA bar filled up to get it. Just like how you're suppose to fill up 95-99% of your FC bar to receive Here We Go. Just a suggestion.
Wait, you mean I don't have to FC 99% of all public songs, just fill that bar up to 99%?


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Going along with that, actually, maybe at around Christmas time, the Admins could give it out to all the Veteran players (Now, seeing as how there are some people who do not like the file, maybe the admins could send out a message to all the Veterans asking whether they would like the token or not. It could be available only for that holiday.)
Why you gotta be prejudice against non Vet members? I'm no where close to vet, but I'm better than some of them and compete with most others and I'd love to have vROFL.

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Pretty much this.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:03 PM   #36
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Why not just make it where you need to AAA some FMO's or FGO's to get it.
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Must AAA A Quick Death, Crowdpleaser, Frictional Nevada, and Molto Vivace in a row.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:12 PM   #37
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So we already have tokens for 1bil total score token, 1000 av rank, play all songs, FC 99%/50%.
So lets do one based on total AAAs. 95% sounds pretty fair.

Then, next official tournament, everyone who participates gets one of the old support tokens. Top 8 get vRofl as well or something.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:19 PM   #38
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I think that vROFL should just be removed from FFR all together. It's such a dumb file to begin with. The only suggestion I can think of when it comes to unlocking vROFL is to pay either 1,000,000 credits in total or to actually BUY the token for 20 bucks or something idk. Still, I think this whole problem would be solved if vROFL was just removed from FFR. I personally have the vROFL token and the only reason why I got it was just to "have it" as a collection rather than playing the token because everyone DS on that file anyway and it's dumb to play.
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I like the idea of a low avg rank to get the token. 200 and under or something like that.
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Why you gotta be prejudice against non Vet members? I'm no where close to vet, but I'm better than some of them and compete with most others and I'd love to have vROFL.
I don't think that it would be prejudice, to become a vet takes a long time and alot of playing, and as of right now, not much more is had when you do become a vet.
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