Mars 2023

[DotKritic]

Originally Posted by Spenner

I wonder what the estimated cost of this would be (can I count the trillions of dollars with my two hands?)

Application cost: $38USD

Mars One estimates the cost of putting the first four people on Mars at about six billion US dollars.

      	
Country
	
Amount (USD)
1 	United States 	$ 32354
2 	Canada 	$ 6227
3 	United Kingdom 	$ 5935
4 	Australia 	$ 3785
5 	Netherlands 	$ 3245
6 	Germany 	$ 2741
7 	Russia 	$ 2730
8 	Sweden 	$ 2534
9 	France 	$ 1244
10 	Norway 	$ 1180
11 	Finland 	$ 1167
12 	Belgium 	$ 1062
13 	New Zealand 	$ 730
14 	Denmark 	$ 702
15 	Switzerland 	$ 654
16 	Japan 	$ 412
17 	South Africa 	$ 402
18 	Italy 	$ 358
19 	United Arab Emirates 	$ 350
20 	Poland 	$ 349
21 	Brazil 	$ 300
22 	Austria 	$ 269
23 	Romania 	$ 264
24 	Ukraine 	$ 247
25 	Spain 	$ 246
26 	Ireland 	$ 245
27 	Israel 	$ 230
28 	Singapore 	$ 218
29 	Taiwan 	$ 208
30 	Luxembourg 	$ 188
31 	Belarus 	$ 178
32 	China 	$ 164
33 	India 	$ 158
34 	Turkey 	$ 154
35 	Lithuania 	$ 148
36 	Hungary 	$ 122
37 	Czech Republic 	$ 117
38 	Latvia 	$ 65
39 	Indonesia 	$ 53
40 	Iceland 	$ 47
41 	Slovenia 	$ 45
42 	Croatia 	$ 44
43 	Vietnam 	$ 44
44 	Greece 	$ 38
45 	Philippines 	$ 37
46 	Portugal 	$ 34
47 	Malta 	$ 34
48 	Bulgaria 	$ 33
49 	Bahrain 	$ 29
50 	Chile 	$ 29
51 	Malaysia 	$ 29
52 	Slovakia 	$ 20
53 	Estonia 	$ 19
54 	Colombia 	$ 2
	Total amount 	$ 72220

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by DotKritic

Application cost: $38USD
Total amount $ 72220

Damn, I should have thought of making a site like this. I'd be rich.

[Reach]

6 billion USD?

lol what

It costs like a billion dollars just to put a shuttle in space to orbit earth.

Considering you would have to custom design a shuttle capable of such a voyage, on top of a much more expensive launch...I really, really doubt this #.

It's actually kind of a joke for them to even cite a potential cost, given the technology for this mission doesn't even exist yet.


Like, after reading more about their plans, they don't even make sense. They want to use dragon capsule to land? Ok. It exists, too bad we currently don't have the tech or any known methods of actually landing it. Airbraking/airbags or parachutes are not going to land this thing. It'll have to be propelled and we have no way of doing this right now, also, it would have to carry a lot of fuel to do so which is another problem (how heavy, exactly, of a rocket do we plan on launching here?)

Are they even scouting locations for colonization? They should probably do it soon. I'd like to know how they plan on doing it, given that we know how fast the mars rover actually moves. Really fucking slow. How the hell are they going to scout anything? XD

[04im]

making money off of clueless people is as easy as a, b, c

[Spenner]

Originally Posted by Reach

It's actually kind of a joke for them to even cite a potential cost, given the technology for this mission doesn't even exist yet.

This. It feels really unplanned/poorly organized, despite having some people like spacex and the like listed on their site (prolly just affiliations and not much more). Not to mention the liabilities on the plate here.

If they don't really have a detailed mapped out vision here, rather than just ideas up in the air, I can't really expect much. Their mission statements are incredibly vague and I think they just want money for something they'll eventually end up having to admit "I guess it's a bit out of reach for right now, one day we can try this again" as they blow their noses in the fat wads of cash they profited on.

[Pseudo Enigma]

Originally Posted by Is this for real?

A manned mission to Mars is expensive. We plan to fund it by making it the biggest media spectacle in history. This way, everyone will get the chance to not only watch the astronauts make their journey, but choose who gets to do so. Four people, icons, who will leave their life on Earth behind and start an adventure on a new planet tens of millions of miles away.

sounds like the plot of a shitty 90s movie. Honestly it only sounds like they want to get funding for something else. This doesn't feel solid no matter how much I read about it.

Originally Posted by Why go to Mars?

Why did Columbus travel west? Why did Marco Polo head east? Because it is that pull, that unknown, that prospect of adventure that compels humans to seek new frontiers to explore.

Dude. If this is your argument statement, then you've lost me. What the fuck. I don't want to hear about Columbus when thinking about Space Travel. I wanna hear things like "there are materials on other planets we need for curing incurable diseases and making miracles happen. etc" the statement is also just very generally weak.
Why go to the fridge? Because Columbus once went west.

[DotKritic]

Originally Posted by How will the astronaut selection proceed? - Round 3

This round is the national selection round, which could be broadcasted on TV and internet in countries around the world. In each country, 20-40 applicants will participate in challenges that demonstrate their suitability to become one of the first humans on Mars. The audience will select one winner per country and Mars One experts will select additional participants to continue to round four.

Sounds like FOX would broadcast this.

[top]

every person who applies for this should be put into the Colosseum and forced to fight to the death. whoever wins gets to live and they receive a free copy of the footage of the entire battle as seen from the sky.

[Spenner]

Originally Posted by Pseudo Enigma

Dude. If this is your argument statement, then you've lost me. What the fuck. I don't want to hear about Columbus when thinking about Space Travel. I wanna hear things like "there are materials on other planets we need for curing incurable diseases and making miracles happen. etc" the statement is also just very generally weak.
Why go to the fridge? Because Columbus once went west.

Yeah the fact that they sort of propose aimless exploration and don't have a specific reason to go forward with billions of dollars worth of preparation at stake, makes them out to look a bit sketchy. Columbus went looking west because there was no knowledge of more earth being on that side. We pretty well fully know what to expect when arriving on mars, its not like unobserved territory. Just unwalked.

[cedolad]

all I can think about is Total Recall.

[04im]

Originally Posted by Xiz

im totally making a video. give me a few days

-$35

[Cavernio]

I don't need any more reason than it's fcking mars to want to go to mars.

[Reach]

Originally Posted by Cavernio

I don't need any more reason than it's fcking mars to want to go to mars.

So a generally barren planet prone to extreme dust storms where you will be locked in a relatively small capsule/greenhouse for years, probably not doing much at all other than trying to stay alive and running basic experiments while you contemplate your regret over the horrible decision you made.

Sounds great.

I don't even know what the point of these applications are. Most of the people applying for this are woefully ignorant of how brutal it would be over there, not to mention completely unqualified and would probably be dead in a couple of days because of doing something stupid.


At a bare minimum this mission requires an aerospace engineer/computer genius, a medical wizard/surgeon, and some sort of astrobiologist/physicist. Guess everyone else is applying for the remaining spot? Realistically they're going to need a flight specialist as well if they're going to be landing the dragon. lol

[Garquillex]

4 people totally isn't enough either. I imagine you'd need many more than that to ensure that people can defend themselves or maintain order if someone snaps. It's way too much money to risk on 4 people.

[Riotpolice]

Originally Posted by Garquillex

4 people totally isn't enough either. I imagine you'd need many more than that to ensure that people can defend themselves or maintain order if someone snaps. It's way too much money to risk on 4 people.

I'd agree with this. If you got 15 - 20 people, I think it would be more cost effective.

[Spenner]

I think 4 confident and highly trained people is a lot safer to go with than 15 people who make way for more liabilities and potential for someone to freak out or screw something up. Unless all of them are trained by Nasa or something.

And yeah with what Reach said, I kind of don't see the point. Other than soil collection and finding certain samples for research, I think we can simulate a lot of whatever the conditions are back on earth and try to build and engineer ideas on earth FIRST. I think because of all their affiliations they somehow feel like they can skip this or something.

[Pseudo Enigma]

Originally Posted by Spenner

Yeah the fact that they sort of propose aimless exploration and don't have a specific reason to go forward with billions of dollars worth of preparation at stake, makes them out to look a bit sketchy. Columbus went looking west because there was no knowledge of more earth being on that side. We pretty well fully know what to expect when arriving on mars, its not like unobserved territory. Just unwalked.

Columbus had no clue what he was doing, and had practically nothing to lose when he went to settle America. Mars we have been observing for decades looking it over for resources and life. Hell, I don't even think we're really trying to prove it has life anymore, probably more the fact that there's anything useful on it in the first place. In 10 years I don't see this movement even happening due to the cost and effectiveness.

[JohnRedWolf87]

They don't actually want to send anyone to Mars. Don't you see? It's secretly a plan to try to create the Fantastic Four.

[Reincarnate]

BS

[cedolad]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...n_3144656.html

this is what they do on mars now. I don't think the future could be much better.