E3 2014

[Charu]

I'm sure there's going to be all sorts of rules to make the new game not like Brawl.

I don't know, I'm just kind of excited because... man... if there's actually good online service for this new Smash Brothers game with customize-able rule sets that players can either create or find accordingly.

That's a gold mine in my opinion.

Also, maybe it's because I don't really see the problem, but item usage I think can be fun if fine-tuned just right for a particular rule-set so no one has a sudden advantage.

[korny]

Items can be fun for completely casual gameplay even if I can't remember the last time I used them, but using them in a match to determine the better fighter adds a completely unnecessary element of randomization lacking the straightforwardness of utilizing ones characters move set and stage and match-up knowledge to win.

[kommisar]

yoshi game i hope they don't fuck up like kirby epic yarn. that game was a disaster almost solely on the fact that there was no consequence to dying.

smash looks alright. it won't replace melee but I'll enjoy it casually with friends.

zelda warriors dynasty warriors rehash blah blah

new zelda game though idk we'll see. I wasn't huge on twilight princess and skyward sword.

splatoon looked hella fun yes yes yes

mario maker lol it's like they forgot that people have been making custom levels for well over a decade now

toad game yeah sure why not. looks fun.

bayonetta well I might get this since it comes bundled. never was my sort of game but I might change my mind when I pick it up

kirby rainbow cuse

myiamoto secretly showcasing new starfox game in development hngggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

new pokemon game stuff we already know basically. i'll probably get this too even though it was my least favorite gen

xenoblade is probably the game I'm looking forward to the most

new smash character announcement

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by kommisar

yoshi game i hope they don't fuck up like kirby epic yarn. that game was a disaster almost solely on the fact that there was no consequence to dying.

tbf though, when was the last time dying had any (noticeable) consequence in a nintendo game? relevant: I just finished super mario 3d land. I had ~500 lives.

Originally Posted by kommisar

mario maker lol it's like they forgot that people have been making custom levels for well over a decade now

true, but think about the audience size for rom hacks vs. an official game

[korny]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

tbf though, when was the last time dying had any (noticeable) consequence in a nintendo game?

It's a sad, sad world we're living in

[choof]

Originally Posted by korny

It's a sad, sad world we're living in

platformers

[korny]

Opinions

[choof]

death should have larger consequences in genres such as rpgs/rts/shooters/etc

even older games such as smw3 and mario64 had relatively small consequences for dying

[Pseudo Enigma]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

tbf though, when was the last time dying had any (noticeable) consequence in a nintendo game? relevant: I just finished super mario 3d land. I had ~500 lives.

NES era: games so hard that if you beat it you were heralded as a hero
SNES/N64 era: games were less hard, more fun
GC/Wii Eras: maxifun no difficulty
????? Era: Games so easy they play themselves.

Kinda miss the NES era. There's no games anymore that were unfair in difficulty. EG. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

[choof]

to be fair the old smw games on nes and snes are pretty easy

[hi19hi19]

Fire Emblem


Bam death consequences

[dAnceguy117]

^ oops urrite

Originally Posted by choof

even older games such as smw3 and mario64 had relatively small consequences for dying

super mario bros. 3 had a pretty significant life count constraint imo. sure you can stack a bunch of lives if you've played a lot and know how to work the system, but starting out? probably gonna gameover here and there. mario 64 yeah lives were not a thing.

[hi19hi19]

Actually both Heroes of Light and Shadow and Awakening both have Casual mode where your units suffer no penalty for dying so there goes that theory lol

[korny]

Originally Posted by choof

death should have larger consequences in genres such as rpgs/rts/shooters/etc

even older games such as smw3 and mario64 had relatively small consequences for dying

Smw3 and mario64 were still MUCH more difficult than anyyy game that's come out for Nintendo in that last who knows how long. I shouldn't be able to beat a platformer I've never played before in less than 2 hours. smw3 and Mario64 are just famous classics with moderate-ish, there were soooo many more platformers with considerable difficulty that haven't existed for well over a decade and it's unacceptable for those of us who crave genuine difficulty. Games like Ninja gaiden, Mario: lost levels, battle toads, classic megaman, battletoads , ghosts and goblins etc, are so hard, that most people give up and deem the near impossible.

Simply put, there's no such thing as bragging rights any more for new games. That is a problem.

[Charu]

If you die in Mario, you die in real life.

[Tyson ultima]

So what part in this new kirby game do you suck up baddies and take their powers....

[Arntonach]

Last I remember, the penalty for getting hurt in Epic Yarn was a loss of collectibles, which meant that if you wanted to 100% the game, you had to go for no damage run. Miyamoto even stated that was the main reason for that mechanic. Actually trying to go for 100% in that game is frustratingly difficult.

[dAnceguy117]

totes depends on the type of game. if it's story driven then characters are probably given genders and being able to mess with that is a little weird because then the characters are less solidly defined I guess. although if there's hella gender roles going on then that's dumb. if you get to CREATE UR OWN HEROOOO PERSON and there's no girl or whatever option then imo it's less that the company is sexist and more that they're bad at making creation tools.

Originally Posted by Pseudo Enigma

There's no games anymore that were unfair in difficulty. EG. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

I cant beat this game, I practiced a lot not even kidding I cant do it

[dAnceguy117]

why'd they have to, has anyone explained?

[Charu]

Whoa, didn't know about the pac-man thing, that's interesting, lol.

Also, I was hoping it wasn't serious, but I guess it is. My own stance on that is that I could really care less about what gender I'm playing my game at.

If the game demands me to play a male role, then okay, cool, I don't see the problem.

If the game demands me to play a female role, then okay, that's cool too, I don't see the problem.

If the game gives me an option to choose a gender because it won't effect whatever story the developers came up with, then awesome. Some minor replayability points.

I don't see this as a sexist issue, lmao.