Should drugs be illegal?

[EnR]

I wouldn't ever let my kids smoke cigarettes or do drugs. I have friends who smoke weed all the time and it's amazing how ****ing dumb they've become. I can't even have a god damn decent conversation with them. People who do drugs are annoying as ****. Besides where would all these tv shows and movies go if drugs were legal?

[MrRubix]

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

I think this goes back to parental influence. Honestly I think it would be much better if a parent just let his/her kid try out something if it's available (like trying a cigar or alcohol to get rid of curiosity) while they're with them so that way the kid won't overdo it. Abstinence isn't really the best thing to teach in my opinion.

Input anyone?

Abstinence is often a completely awful approach to things... the better approach, as we've seen empirically, is education. If you're going to have sex, at least be safe by doing such and such. If you're going to drink alcohol, at least be safe by doing such and such.

The problem is that there's no safe "such and such" to apply to certain hard drugs. Some drugs just cause extreme damage and are really hard to justify in terms of legalization.

[Patashu]

Originally Posted by EnR

I wouldn't ever let my kids smoke cigarettes or do drugs. I have friends who smoke weed all the time and it's amazing how ****ing dumb they've become. I can't even have a god damn decent conversation with them. People who do drugs are annoying as ****. Besides where would all these tv shows and movies go if drugs were legal?

Ah, but here's the crux of the issue - making marijuana illegal doesn't stop people from smoking marijuana, and now illegal, unregulated people are getting the money, not regulated, legalized businesses.

All other things being equal, wouldn't it be better if it were legalized?

[DossarLX ODI]

So rather than let the kid try out the stuff by himself/herself, why not let the parent give him/her a try so he/she is unable to use it in excess with the parent's company? I personally just want to try a cigar so I can say how much it sucks, but it's not worth the trouble - my parents have let me taste wines and beer (alcohol), and I didn't really like it. But they were there to tell me to stop if I was starting to overdo it (not that I'd become addicted anyways but still, you get my point).

[EnR]

Originally Posted by Patashu

Ah, but here's the crux of the issue - making marijuana illegal doesn't stop people from smoking marijuana, and now illegal, unregulated people are getting the money, not regulated, legalized businesses.

All other things being equal, wouldn't it be better if it were legalized?

Yes but if it was legal, the people who are scared to do it because it's illegal will end up doing it.

[Vanilla Mnm]

Originally Posted by EnR

Yes but if it was legal, the people who are scared to do it because it's illegal will end up doing it.

I don't know anybody that won't smoke weed because it's illegal. Maybe it's just the people I know, lol, but I know if someone truly wants to, they're not going to let it being illegal get in the way.

[EnR]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Mnm

I don't know anybody that won't smoke weed because it's illegal. Maybe it's just the people I know, lol, but I know if someone truly wants to, they're not going to let it being illegal get in the way.

My friend smokes weed but he'll never go home after doing it because he's ****ing terrified his parents know. Some people are just dowjn right stupid and want to do it with their friends to fit in.

The best part is when people ask me if I want to try it and I say no they go "Good man, don't try this ****", it makes me laugh because it's happened more than once.

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Mnm

I don't know anybody that won't smoke weed because it's illegal. Maybe it's just the people I know, lol, but I know if someone truly wants to, they're not going to let it being illegal get in the way.

I don't smoke weed because it's illegal, so now you know someone. And I don't really like smoking in general anyways, been around it all my life, I'm sick of it.

[EnR]

My brother comes home every day after school, he usually skips school and comes and has bong sessions on the deck with his 20 year old buddies(my bro is 16) and if my mom finds out she doesn't do ****, my bro will talk to her about weed and just the other day my dad found a joint in the back seat of her brand new car, which means she let him smoke a joint in the car. My mom won't do **** about it and I think that's wrong. Parents shouldn't let their kids ruin their lives.

[who_cares973]

my mom let me try beer when i was a kid. now i have a beer with every meal and in between every meal

[Patashu]

Originally Posted by EnR

My friend smokes weed but he'll never go home after doing it because he's ****ing terrified his parents know. Some people are just dowjn right stupid and want to do it with their friends to fit in.

The question is 'should drug usage be illegal or not'. You seem to be answering the question 'should drug usage be considered immoral by society or not'. It can be both legal AND immoral. Legal because there's no benefit to society if we imprison people who do drugs and those who sell them, because it doesn't stop people (proven) and doesn't stop dealers (proven) and just means outlaws have a huge cash crop. You can think that drug usage is the stupidest mother****ing thing in the world and STILL think it should be legal just because of how ubiquitous and easy it is to produce and use. The war on drugs has been going on for a decade? now and hasn't stamped out ****. Prohibition didn't do anything either.

[DossarLX ODI]

PEER PRESSURE MANIAS.

I've actually seen people that think smoking weed is "cool" because it's illegal. If it was made legal, these people probably wouldn't care.

[tangomango]

Originally Posted by EnR

My mom won't do **** about it and I think that's wrong.

I think your mom should be more concerned with your brother skipping school. If she truly doesn't care about his drug use, so be it. Just don't allow it to affect his grades.

[EnR]

That's true. Weed being legal has no impact on me, so I really don't care if it's legal or not because people are still going to be dumb enough to do it.

[Vanilla Mnm]

Originally Posted by EnR

Parents shouldn't let their kids ruin their lives.

Yeah, I agree with that, definitely. But I think that's a little off topic, lol.

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

I don't smoke weed because it's illegal, so now you know someone. And I don't really like smoking in general anyways, been around it all my life, I'm sick of it.

So you would smoke weed if it was legal?

[EnR]

Originally Posted by tangomango

I think your mom should be more concerned with your brother skipping school. If she truly doesn't care about his drug use, so be it. Just don't allow it to affect his grades.

She came up to me and told me that she doesn't care if he drops out of not because she knows he's not going anywhere in life. She told me this straight up.

He's failing every single class he's in right now(he's in 10th grade because he got held back in 1st) and all his classes are the lowest of the low. He hasn't shown up at all to his Auto class and skips math and science all the time.

The worst part about it is his mood swings, he'll snap at everything, just the other day the shower wouldn't get hot enough for him so he decided to smash everything and slam the ground with his foot and punch the walls... while i was trying to sleep for god sakes, this is at 7am. This is when he isn't stoned. When he is stoned it's like talking to a rock, he's useless and just stares. I've witnessed what drugs and alcohol do to people(my dad is an alcoholic) and it's ****ing disgusting and I can't beleive people want to do this to themselves.

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Mnm

Yeah, I agree with that, definitely. But I think that's a little off topic, lol.



So you would smoke weed if it was legal?

As I said in my earlier post, I don't really like it anyways, so probably not. Once in a while is good though, I will admit that getting high is quite fun, just don't do it so much.

[DossarLX ODI]

Originally Posted by tangomango

I think your mom should be more concerned with your brother skipping school. If she truly doesn't care about his drug use, so be it. Just don't allow it to affect his grades.

This. For example, if he watches porn but is doing good in school and is a good person, why the hell should your mom care? Apparently it's not the "appropriate" entertainment? (but if he's doing bad, then your mom should care. It's her responsibility to teach your brother not to be irresponsible and obviously she failed at that task then.)

When students use drugs in excess, their grades drop and stress levels rise. This is when it becomes a problem - if your kid is smoking a few times a week, I don't really find a problem in that. Other than shortening his/her lifespan, but that's his/her decision.

[Vanilla Mnm]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

As I said in my earlier post, I don't really like it anyways, so probably not. Once in a while is good though, I will admit that getting high is quite fun, just don't do it so much.

Well, you've obviously smoked weed then, which means you haven't let it being illegal get in the way of you smoking it.

[Emo_Saur_]

What's funny, I'm friends with many casual smokers. I'm a casual smoker myself, it's much more of a social thing. I have no problem with drugs: MDMA, Marijuana, Shrooms. The others, I do have a problem with. While MDMA and Shrooms can cause you to pretty much die via suicide or pure stupidity weed is not the same way what-so-ever. It's more of an eye opener for me, I honestly have appreciated music high or not since I started.


I think it should be legalized for your own personal growth, but I think selling/transporting it should still be illegal. You'll see rise in gardening supplies and such .