TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

this is going to sound rude but I don't mean it that way

its not going to get better just by blindly sheeping him because I am town and my jaw will drop if Charu is a wolf

but would you kill lito or yoshl today?

[Hakulyte]

If he's town, it's raeko/roundbox/? at a fairly high %.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

but would you kill lito or yoshl today?

I think killing Yoshl is more likely than me killing lito, and while they are not my ideal lynches, I could kill them aorn. I am hoping to develop reads better

my lynch order right now would be like
raeko
haku
yoshl
lito


roundbox way down here but he's not clear yet


probably never killing you

never killing charu
never killing w&b

the wolves are in those 5 imo, raeko haku yoshl lito and roundbox
I'm going to narrow that down today

[FreezinIce]

DAY 1:

4 -- thesunfan -- Tokzic (8), Litodude (75), FreezinIce (328), Hakulyte (82)
2 -- inDheart -- YoshL (71), ShadoWolfe (76)
2 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (205), Lightknight924 (13)
1 -- Lightknight924 -- Charu (194)
1 -- Litodude -- choof (61)
1 -- unvote -- inDheart (49)
2 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (14), roundbox (40)

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4 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (240), Lightknight924 (16), choof (86), YoshL (77)
4 -- Lightknight924 -- ShadoWolfe (105), FreezinIce (362), Charu (231), Tokzic (13)
2 -- Tokzic -- Litodude (86), inDheart (63)
2 -- thesunfan -- Hakulyte (85), mellonxcollie (18)
1 -- not voting -- roundbox (51)

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6 -- Lightknight924 -- ShadoWolfe (106), FreezinIce (365), Charu (235), Tokzic (16), YoshL (79), roundbox (56)
2 -- Tokzic -- Litodude (86), inDheart (65)
2 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (244), Lightknight924 (17)
2 -- thesunfan -- Hakulyte (86), mellonxcollie (18)
1 -- unvote -- choof (91)

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7 -- Tokzic -- Litodude (86), inDheart (66), roundbox (57), FreezinIce (366), Charu (237), YoshL (82), ShadoWolfe (107)
2 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (245), Lightknight924 (18)
2 -- thesunfan -- Hakulyte (86), mellonxcollie (18)
1 -- Lightknight924 -- Tokzic (16)
1 -- unvote -- choof (93)

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DAY 2:

4 -- inDheart -- Litodude (98), choof (52), thesunfan (197), YoshL (67)
2 -- Charu -- inDheart (75), roundbox (21)
1 -- FreezinIce -- FreezinIce (140)
1 -- Hakulyte -- Hakulyte (155)
1 -- unvote -- ShadoWolfe (114)
2 -- not voting -- Charu (148), mellonxcollie (48)

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4 -- Charu -- inDheart (75), roundbox (29), Hakulyte (197), FreezinIce (167)
3 -- mellonxcollie -- ShadoWolfe (128), Charu (187), thesunfan (216)
2 -- inDheart -- Litodude (101), YoshL (68)
1 -- thesunfan -- mellonxcollie (49)
1 -- unvote -- Wineandbread (6)

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6 -- inDheart -- Litodude (101), YoshL (83), Charu (206), thesunfan (259), roundbox (50), ShadoWolfe (148)
3 -- Charu -- inDheart (75), Hakulyte (236), mellonxcollie (59)
1 -- mellonxcollie -- FreezinIce (191)
1 -- unvote -- Wineandbread (7)

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Included is every wagon shift over 4 votes.

Magenta is flipped towns

Blue is myself

[FreezinIce]

still thinking about how to parse this info but are all 3 wolves on indheart at eod? not so sure about that.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

still thinking about how to parse this info but are all 3 wolves on indheart at eod? not so sure about that.

Why not?

[Hakulyte]

Oh, that may be why Charu asked me why ShadoWolfe got lynched.

Oh.

Sneaky.

[FreezinIce]

Thought experiment:

Looking at eod wagons assuming sunfan is town…


7 -- Tokzic -- Litodude (86), inDheart (66), roundbox (57), FreezinIce (366), Charu (237), YoshL (82), ShadoWolfe (107)
2 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (245), Lightknight924 (18)
2 -- thesunfan -- Hakulyte (86), mellonxcollie (18)
1 -- Lightknight924 -- Tokzic (16)
1 -- unvote -- choof (93)


6 -- inDheart -- Litodude (101), YoshL (83), Charu (206), thesunfan (259), roundbox (50), ShadoWolfe (148)
3 -- Charu -- inDheart (75), Hakulyte (236), mellonxcollie (59)
1 -- mellonxcollie -- FreezinIce (191)
1 -- unvote -- Wineandbread (7)

we have the same 4 people on both killing wagons: Lito, Charu, YoshL, and roundbox.

you have mello and haku both on the counter wagons

you have choof not on any wagon.

hmmmm

[Hakulyte]

choof/raeko/haku as ideal wolf team?

hmm

doable I guess.

[Hakulyte]

At same time, we're pretty inefficient wolves if that's the case.

(in terms of leading lynches)

[Hakulyte]

I think the inDheart wagon is self-explanatory.

I think it's buffed by wolves to avoid a Charu lynch.

This obviously goes back to my initial theory and I'm pretty sure you know what I will say.

[Hakulyte]

I think the simple plans are usually the best ones for wolves because they're easier to coordinate and very easy to make the others discard.

e.g: There's no way wolves would all wagon the same player because it's too simple.

If you think it's something more complicated, you're going to have to find a reason as to why it has to be more complicated.

I'm open for exploring possibilities, but I certainly don't feel confident at all with that.

[Hakulyte]

ps: Raeko sheeped me in Time Travel the very same way she did here as town.

It's not always trickery, to me, it really sounds like she think it's a hit.

[FreezinIce]

what i should be asking myself at this point is if there is any association between (Lito, Charu, YoshL, and roundbox) and (Mello and haku)

Lets see

Charu + haku = nope
YoshL + haku = nope
roundbox + haku = maybe but probably not
lito + haku = maybe but probably not

mello + charu = maybe, im getting the feeling shes getting the blindreper from charu (from this post)
mello + yoshl = probably not, preemptive bussing maybe but nah
mello + lito = probably not, he went hard on her way earlier than he had to unless he was going for the hard bus.
mello + roundbox = its more likely than these other pairings, hes lightly thrown shade at her only so far

[FreezinIce]

i think if i process of eliminate some people and fill their colors in, the list makes a lot more sense...

[Hakulyte]

I'm very confident about choof being town because I mind melded with him in the D1 entrance part.

Roundbox/YoshL are more null than scummy imo because I have trouble to pair them in a way that makes sense based on overall interactions.

Actually, I tend to believe that YoshL was fairly in harmony with Gradiant and now that I know that Gradiant was town, I'm likely to believe that he's town as well.

I tend to believe that if you're a wolf here, you wouldn't have posted so much in a fast manner.

I feel like if you posted too fast in D0 to be able to filter yourself. (if you're a wolf)

I also think that you're coming from a genuine place overall and I liked your game. (we're both pretty annoying tho, we should learn some courtesy lol)

[Litodude]

can't sleep

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by Charu

dumb

shado got nk'd cuz he was onto some1

[Hakulyte]

Derp.

I feel like you posted too fast in D0 to filter "your potential lies" if you're a wolf.*

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by Charu

And Haku, before you fucking say what I think you're going to say.

I mean in nightkills. Why isn't he dead in nightkills?

i've been wrong and they wagon on my first votes so i unvoted cuz i will tunnel and prob just wagon on me again (eg literally ereyone i voted for)