World of Warcraft

[Squeek]

Originally Posted by devonin

I just listened to several people in my Direbrew party who all have level 80 shaman main/alts talk -at length- about how broken and overpowered shaman are in PvP.

It depends on the spec of the shaman and the stupidity of the opponent. Resto has always been amazing in PVP, and Enhancement has amazing stuff like instant heals and immunity to roots.

As for the above: We have a 30% reduced damage while stunned ability. Doesn't stop a rogue from killing me in 6 seconds while stunlocked even with 800 resilience.

[devonin]

The shaman I've heard the most from about his overpowered combat abilities in PvP is elemental.

[Squeek]

Please tell me what he said.

Was it Lava Burst's guaranteed crit? The thing that can be nullified by dispelling Flame Shock? Was it Thunderstorm? The thing that hardly ever works properly and doesn't stop anyone from killing us? Was it our totems? Those little sticks that are broken when anyone so much as breathes on them?

I've been PVPing for about 3 months now and I fail to see how we're overpowered. We're glass cannons. If you don't pay attention to me, then yes, I can nuke you down easily. If you play smart, I can't do a damn thing aside from lightning bolt spam.

In almost every 5v5 match we had against a good team, they saw me, nuked me down instantly, and we lost. In almost every fight we won, I attempted to stay hidden by standing places they wouldn't normally look and just nuke them down one at a time.

Let me put it this way. If I'm the sole defender of a bunker in AV, you're going to re-cap it no matter what class you play.

[Tokzic]

i just started pvping

after two hours of it my arena team is at 1300

we rox

[Necamus]

Squeek, maybe your class isn't the problem..

[Squeek]

Play a shaman. Then tell me we're OP.

Anyway, we decided we were gonna go back to Ulduar and do all the Hard Modes, since they still haven't removed the drakes. We're 7 bosses in and we've done 6 Glory of the Ulduar Raider achievements (we didn't want to wipe non-stop on Razorscale just for the achievement, so we burned 10 or so then finished her off. We'll do more each week).

We're still going so I'll update if we get anymore =x

Edit: Wiped at 2% on Thorim. Painful.

Then we went to Oculus and got Make it Count. Oculus was the last thing I needed for Timear Foresees and Proof of Demise. The combination of these achievements put me at 7,000 points. I have four achievements left for Glory of the Hero, and all of the hard ones are completely done. Void, void, void, and Experienced rider from Oculus is it.

[Bill Kaulitz]

Originally Posted by Sir Psycho

Well, I will say that clothies have it the worst in Arenas.

I 3 shot Mages and Priests once I get their bubble down.

Yeah I know. I'm a 73 Tauren Druid and I got challenged by a 73 Troll Mage. I hit her twice with Moonfire and she died. I was like wut? That quickly? I also defeated a 73 Orc Shaman, but it was a close call. xD

[Squeek]

Magic attacks have nothing to do with armor rating. He's talking about his melee abilities hitting on Cloth as opposed to Plate.

[Bill Kaulitz]

Oh alright... =/

[Sir Psycho]

I'll give you a great example that actually happened.

Running EotS, saw a Frost Mage, Hamstrung him(50% slower run/walk), white hit him, rended him, he blinked, I charged, bubble fell down, Mortal Strike crit for 9k, Overpowered(Taste of Blood procced), crit for 9k. Mage hit the floor.

Running the same EotS, saw a Ret Paladin with gear a little worse than mine, I white hit him for 1300, white crit him for roughly 3k. Mortal Strike crit him for 3.6k, Overpowered him for 3.4k. And the ret paladin was hitting me for 2x that amount(there moves have holy damage tagged onto the formula for damage, which ignores all armor). I still won because 35k health on a warrior is OP fully buffed with 750 resil

[Bill Kaulitz]

For some odd reason today I kept on getting kicked from the BG's and being called a deserter...It pissed me off.

[Squeek]

It's a new feature of the "Report Player AFK" function. Instead of just making it so you receive no Honor or Marks, after one minute of being reported, you're removed from the battleground if you don't engage in PVP.

Many jerks are abusing it, but it's also stopping a lot of botters.

[fido123]

Hasn't that been around for like a good year now?

[Squeek]

It's been around since 3.2.2. So, a week.

Before, when you got reported, you were flagged "Inactive!" with a debuff and unable to receive marks or honor. You could remove it if you engaged in combat. You wouldn't get kicked from the fight no matter how many people reported you though. You'd just take up space.

Now, when you get reported, you have one minute to do something or you're removed from the battleground as if you'd gone /afk.

[devonin]

Originally Posted by Squeek

It's a new feature of the "Report Player AFK" function. Instead of just making it so you receive no Honor or Marks, after one minute of being reported, you're removed from the battleground if you don't engage in PVP.

Many jerks are abusing it, but it's also stopping a lot of botters.

So it's a "You have one minute to PvP something or else" button? Or a "Someone said you are afk, press this button if you aren't" button?

If it's the latter, it's all good. If it's the former, I guess I'll -never- defend -anything- again, if a jerk can get me kicked out of BGs for 15 minutes just because I'm doing my job.

[tsugomaru]

I'm not 100% sure how it works, but I used to have a guild mate many years back who botted for honor in battlegrounds. The program he used worked by clicking the correct places on the screen to queue him and enter the battleground and that's all done with a window that says yes or no. Then it would move him back and forth a bit to prevent him from AFK'ing. If they had a window asking if you were there or not, it would not be that hard to get the program to click yes.

~Tsugomaru

[Squeek]

Originally Posted by devonin

So it's a "You have one minute to PvP something or else" button? Or a "Someone said you are afk, press this button if you aren't" button?

If it's the latter, it's all good. If it's the former, I guess I'll -never- defend -anything- again, if a jerk can get me kicked out of BGs for 15 minutes just because I'm doing my job.

It's the former.

I haven't been in battlegrounds for a long time due to disinterest and because of the great shaman nerf of 3.2.2 but I hear that people aren't bothering to defend anymore because they get AFK-kicked. In AV, I could ride up to the first bunker and cap it without doing any damage, healing, getting any HKs, etc. I would show up as 0/0/0/0/0 and I wouldn't be moving. I must be AFK!

You just have to hope your teammates aren't idiots, I guess.

[tsugomaru]

Report the AFKs who took all the towers and defended all the bunkers, it's a recipe to victory.

~Tsugomaru

[hi19hi19]

I rolled a shaman on the PTR. Pretty much the first thing I did was find some priest. I wind sheared all the pathetic attempts to heal and then hit with a 20k lava burst. It was awesomely OP. I also got to storm melee off the LM cliff in AB... so much fun. Between the ele sham and resto druid I played on PTR, it makes we wish I had rolled something other than pally haha

EDIT- also, there's a million phasing issues with the new instance on PTR. Blah, i can't get my non-premade in there to test it

[Squeek]

There's no such thing as a 20k Lava Burst.

Glyphed, with full tier 9, against a completely resilience-less enemy with about 3,500 spellpower, MAYBE. In my PVP spec (which has all of the above requirements except for the spellpower) I have never seen more than 13,000.

Now, granted, I do 70k Lava Bursts on Hodir (and boy do I love it when I do) but that has nothing to do with pvp. It's so easy to counter in pvp. You can interrupt the cast, you can silence me, you can dispel Flame Shock, you can reflect it, you can just get some Resilience, whatever. That 13k crit hits for 6k on a geared pvp enemy, who also has 30,000+hp. It's nothing.