Official Tier Point System Thread

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[Introduction]

Hello FFR Members! Welcome to the new FFR ranking system for the top active players. In this update, we have decided to make the tier point system much stricter so please take the time to read the following guidelines. Thanks!

WARNING: Do NOT post your Tier points on this thread. Post them here instead.

Also, If you want to view your Tier Points, go here.

[Updates / Changes]

• Each Tier Point have been reduced by approximately 2 points each so basically, the old 1 and 2 requirements from the old system have been removed.

• Each "Full Combo" requirement (6/6 and under), from the old system, have been changed to adjusted PA requirements to reduce the number of people getting points by just mashing a Full Combo for a point.

• Each file that is rated either a 7/7 or an 8/8 will have the first two requirements as a score requirement. In some cases, they will have a 3-point score requirement.

• Songs that are considered as 9/9 in FFR will have modified score requirements adjusted to the point where mashing for a tier point will get you either one or two points depending on file.

• The old three point requirements have been made slightly more lenient for the new one-point requirement to balance it off from the old system.

[Current Songs w/ Requirements (120 Songs)]

9/9 (3 songs)

#1 Death Piano
(9)- 50 or fewer (3,788,400)
(8)- 150 or fewer (3,760,900)
(7)- 300 or fewer (3,719,650)
(6)- 3,600,000 or higher (3,600,000)
(5)- 3,000,000 or higher (3,000,000)
(4)- 2,300,000 or higher (2,300,000)
(3)- 2,000,000 or higher (2,000,000)
(2)- 1,800,000 or higher (1,800,000)
(1)- 1,500,000 or higher (1,500,000)

#2 Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion
(9)- 50 or fewer (2,466,250) 
(8)- 180 or fewer (2,430,500)
(7)- 350 or fewer (2,383,750)
(6)- 600 or fewer (2,315,000)
(5)- 2,200,000 or higher (2,200,000)
(4)- 2,000,000 or higher (2,000,000)
(3)- 1,600,000 or higher (1,600,000)
(2)- 1,400,000 or higher (1,400,000)
(1)- 1,100,000 or higher (1,100,000)

#3 Revolutionary Etude
(9)- AAA (2,480,000)
(8)- 5 or fewer (2,478,625)
(7)- 25 or fewer (2,474,500)
(6)- 60 or fewer (2,463,500)
(5)- 150 or fewer (2,438,750)
(4)- 300 or fewer (2,397,500)
(3)- 2,000,000 or higher (2,000,000)
(2)- 1,800,000 or higher (1,800,000)
(1)- 1,500,000 or higher (1,500,000)

8/8 (16 songs)

#4 grind2 
(8) 2 or fewer (1,360,350)
(7) Single Digit Good (1,358,425)
(6) 25 or fewer (1,354,025)
(5) 50 or fewer (1,347,150)
(4) 80 or fewer (1,338,900)
(3) 200 or fewer (1,305,900)
(2) 1,200,000 or higher (1,200,000) 
(1) 1,000,000 or higher (1,000,000) 

#5 Rage Template
(8) 1 or fewer (2,448,725)
(7) Single Digit Good (2,446,525)
(6) 25 or fewer (2,442,125)
(5) 50 or fewer (2,435,250)
(4) 100 or fewer (2,421,500)
(3) 200 or fewer (2,394,000)
(2) 2,000,000 or higher (2,000,000) 
(1) 1,600,000 or higher (1,600,000) 

#6 Red Wings Over Baron 
(8) 3 or fewer (6,682,775)
(7) 15 or fewer (6,679,475)
(6) 50 or fewer (6,669,850)
(5) 100 or fewer (6,656,100)
(4) 300 or fewer (6,601,100)
(3) 6,000,000 or higher (6,000,000) 
(2) 5,400,000 or higher (5,400,000)
(1) 4,500,000 or higher (4,500,000)

#7 Magical 8-bit Tour
(8) 2 or fewer (2,908,800)
(7) Single Digit Good (2,906,875)
(6) 25 or fewer (2,902,475)
(5) 60 or fewer (2,892,850)
(4) 120 or fewer (2,876,350)
(3) 250 or fewer (2,840,600) 
(2) 2,500,000 or higher (2,500,000)
(1) 2,000,000 or higher (2,000,000)

#8 DeVouR
(8)- 2 or fewer (2,290,350)
(7)- Single Digit Good (2,288,425)
(6)- 25 or fewer (2,284,025)
(5)- 60 or fewer (2,274,400)
(4)- 120 or fewer (2,257,900)
(3)- 250 or fewer (2,222,150)
(2)- 2,000,000 or higher (2,000,000)
(1)- 1,500,000 or higher (1,500,000)

#9 Winter Wind Etude
(8)- 5 or fewer (3,729,475)
(7)- 25 or fewer (3,723,975)
(6)- 60 or fewer (3,714,350)
(5)- 120 or fewer(3,697,850)
(4)- 250 or fewer (3,662,100)
(3)- 500 or fewer (3,593,350)
(2)- 3,000,000 or higher (3,000,000)
(1)- 2,400,000 or higher (2,400,000)

#10 One Minute Waltz
(8)- AAA (1,638,350)
(7)- 4 or fewer (1,637,250)
(6)- 12 or fewer (1,635,050)
(5)- 30 or fewer (1,630,100)
(4)- 70 or fewer (1,619,100)
(3)- 200 or fewer (1,583,350)
(2)- 1,400,000 or higher (1,400,000)
(1)- 1,200,000 or higher (1,200,000)

#11 Grand Galop Chromatique
(8)- AAA (3,659,550)
(7)- 2 or fewer (3,659,000)
(6)- Single Digit Good (3,657,075)
(5)- 25 or fewer (3,652,675)
(4)- 80 or fewer (3,637,550)
(3)- 300 or fewer (3,577,050)
(2)- 3,000,000 or higher (3,000,000)
(1)- 2,400,000 or higher (2,400,000)

#12 Crowdpleaser
(8)- 2 or fewer (1,915,250)
(7)- 7 or fewer (1,913,875)
(6)- 15 or fewer (1,911,675)
(5)- 30 or fewer (1,907,550)
(4)- 50 or fewer (1,902,050)
(3)- 100 or fewer (1,888,300)
(2)- 1,420,000 or higher (1,420,000)
(1)- 1,400,000 or higher (1,400,000)

#13 J'ai Envie de Plaisir X2
(8)- 1 or fewer (2,560,325)
(7)- Single Digit Good (2,558,125)
(6)- 25 or fewer (2,553,725)
(5)- 60 or fewer (2,544,100)
(4)- 120 or fewer (2,527,600)
(3)- 250 or fewer (2,491,850)
(2)- 2,000,000 or higher (2,000,000)
(1)- 1,500,000 or higher (1,500,000)

#14 La Campanella
(8)- 3 or fewer (4,475,575)
(7)- 15 or fewer (4,472,275)
(6)- 50 or fewer (4,462,650)
(5)- 150 or fewer (4,435,150)
(4)- 350 or fewer (4,380,150)
(3)- 3,600,000 or higher (3,600,000)
(2)- 3,000,000 or higher (3,000,000)
(1)- 2,400,000 or higher (2,400,000)

#15 Schmollbluk
(8)- 1 or fewer (2,549,475)
(7)- 8 or fewer (2,547,550)
(6)- 25 or fewer (2,542,875)
(5)- 50 or fewer (2,536,000)
(4)- 100 or fewer (2,522,250)
(3)- 200 or fewer (2,494,750)
(2)- 2,200,000 or higher (2,200,000)
(1)- 1,800,000 or higher (1,800,000)

#16 Counter Clockwise Chant Pattern
(8)- 2 or fewer (2,205,100)
(7)- Single Digit Good (2,203,175)
(6)- 25 or under (2,198,775)
(5)- 50 or under (2,191,900)
(4)- 80 or fewer (2,183,650)
(3)- 200 or fewer (2,150,650)
(2)- 1,900,000 or higher (1,900,000)
(1)- 1,500,000 or higher (1,500,000)

#17 Almost There
(8)- 3 or fewer (2,978,825)
(7)- 15 or fewer (2,974,975)
(6)- 40 or fewer (2,968,100)
(5)- 80 or fewer (2,957,100)
(4)- 200 or fewer (2,924,100)
(3)- 2,600,000 or higher (2,600,000)
(2)- 2,200,000 or higher (2,200,000)
(1)- 1,800,000 or higher (1,800,000)

#18 Molto Vivace
(8)- AAA (1,824,350)
(7)- 3 or fewer (1,823,525)
(6)- Single Digit Good (1,821,875)
(5)- 20 or fewer (1,818,850)
(4)- 50 or fewer (1,810,600)
(3)- 100 or fewer (1,796,850)
(2)- 200 or fewer (1,769,350)
(1)- 1,500,000 or higher (1,500,000)

#19 Eclipse (Solar)
(8)- 2 or fewer (2,239,200)
(7)- Single Digit Good (2,237,275)
(6)- 30 or fewer (2,231,500)
(5)- 70 or fewer (2,220,500)
(4)- 150 or fewer (2,198,500)
(3)- 250 or fewer (2,171,000)
(2)- 1,700,000 or higher (1,700,000)
(1)- 1,400,000 or higher (1,400,000)

7/7 (15 songs)

#20 Tageri
(7) 1 or fewer (3,014,475) 
(6) Single Digit Good (3,012,275)
(5) 25 or fewer (3,007,875)
(4) 60 or fewer (2,998,250)
(3) 250 or fewer (2,946,000)
(2) 2,500,000 or higher (2,500,000) 
(1) 2,000,000 or higher (2,000,000) 

#21 Mephisto Waltz
(7) 2 or fewer (2,854,550)
(6) Single Digit Good (2,852,625)
(5) 30 or fewer (2,846,850)
(4) 80 or fewer (2,833,100)
(3) 250 or fewer (2,786,350)
(2) 2,500,000 or higher (2,500,000)
(1) 2,000,000 or higher (2,000,000)

#22 Saddest RMX
(7) 3 or fewer (1,423,625)
(6) 12 or fewer (1,421,150)
(5) 30 or fewer (1,416,200)
(4) 60 or fewer (1,407,950)
(3) 180 or fewer (1,374,950)
(2) 1,200,000 or higher (1,200,000)
(1) 1,000,000 or higher (1,000,000)

#23 Hardkore Atomic
(7)- 1 or fewer (1,602,425)
(6)- Single Digit Good (1,600,225)
(5)- 30 or fewer (1,594,450)
(4)- 60 or fewer (1,586,200)
(3)- 200 or fewer (1,547,700)
(2)- 1,400,000 or higher (1,400,000)
(1)- 1,200,000 or higher (1,200,000)

#24 Blue Rose
(7)- 1 or fewer (5,613,825)
(6)- Single Digit Good (5,611,625)
(5)- 25 or fewer (5,607,225)
(4)- 60 or fewer (5,597,600)
(3)- 250 or fewer (5,545,350)
(2)- 4,300,000 or higher (4,300,000)
(1)- 3,500,000 or higher (3,500,000)

#25 Electro Rush x8 v2
(7)- AAA (1,883,250)
(6)- 5 or fewer (1,881,875)
(5)- 15 or fewer (1,879,125)
(4)- 40 or fewer (1,872,250)
(3)- 150 or fewer (1,842,000)
(2)- 1,600,000 or higher (1,600,000)
(1)- 1,300,000 or higher (1,300,000)

#26 Kidney Stone
(7)- 1 or fewer (2,509,175)
(6)- Single Digit Good (2,506,975)
(5)- 40 or fewer (2,498,450)
(4)- 100 or fewer (2,481,950)
(3)- 200 or fewer (2,454,450)
(2)- 2,200,000 or higher (2,200,000)
(1)- 1,700,000 or higher (1,700,000)

#27 Across Rooftops
(7)- AAA (3,493,700)
(6)- Single Digit Good (3,491,225)
(5)- 25 or fewer (3,486,825)
(4)- 60 or fewer (3,477,200)
(3)- 250 or fewer (3,424,950)
(2)- 3,100,000 or higher (3,100,000)
(1)- 2,500,000 or higher (2,500,000)

#28 I Hate The 80s
(7)- 1 or fewer (1,562,125)
(6)- Single Digit Good (1,559,925)
(5)- 25 or fewer (1,555,525)
(4)- 60 or fewer (1,545,900)
(3)- 150 or fewer (1,521,150)
(2)- 1,200,000 or higher (1,200,000)
(1)- 900,000 or higher (900,000)

#29 ==Planet KARMA==
(7)- 1 or fewer (4,765,975)
(6)- 12 or fewer (4,762,950)
(5)- 35 or fewer (4,756,625)
(4)- 80 or fewer (4,744,250)
(3)- 300 or fewer (4,683,750)
(2)- 4,000,000 or higher (4,000,000)
(1)- 3,000,000 or higher (3,000,000)

#30 Little God Channel
(7)- 1 or fewer (4,361,425)
(6)- Single Digit Good (4,359,225)
(5)- 25 or fewer (4,354,825)
(4)- 60 or fewer (4,345,200)
(3)- 250 or fewer (4,292,950)
(2)- 3,800,000 or higher (3,800,000)
(1)- 3,000,000 or higher (3,000,000)

#31 Necropotence
(7)- 1 or fewer (2,626,975)
(6)- Single Digit Good (2,624,775)
(5)- 25 or fewer (2,620,375)
(4)- 60 or fewer (2,610,750)
(3)- 250 or fewer (2,558,500)
(2)- 2,300,000 or higher (2,300,000)
(1)- 1,800,000 or higher (1,800,000)

#32 Integraation
(7)- 1 or fewer (2,991,225)
(6)- Single Digit Good (2,989,025)
(5)- 25 or fewer (2,984,625)
(4)- 60 or fewer (2,975,000)
(3)- 250 or fewer (2,922,750)
(2)- 2,600,000 or higher (2,600,000)
(1)- 2,100,000 or higher (2,100,000)

#33 STRAWBERRY SWEETZ
(7)- 2 or fewer (5,036,950)
(6)- 12 or fewer (5,034,200)
(5)- 30 or fewer (5,029,250)
(4)- 70 or fewer (5,018,250)
(3)- 300 or fewer (4,955,000)
(2)- 4,500,000 or higher (4,500,000)
(1)- 3,800,000 or higher (3,800,000)

#34 Holy Orders
(7)- AAA (4,274,900)
(6)- Single Digit Good (4,272,425)
(5)- 25 or fewer (4,268,025)
(4)- 60 or fewer (4,258,400)
(3)- 250 or fewer (4,206,150)
(2)- 3,700,000 or higher (3,700,000)
(1)- 3,000,000 or higher (3,000,000)

6/6 (22 songs)

#35 Time to Eye
(6) 2 or fewer (1,778,850)
(5) Single Digit Good (1,776,925)
(4) 20 or fewer (1,773,900)
(3) 50 or fewer (1,765,650)
(2) 100 or fewer (1,751,900)
(1) 200 or fewer (1,724,400)

#36 Blindfolds Aside
(6) 1 or fewer (3,995,625)
(5) 5 or fewer (3,994,525)
(4) 15 or fewer (3,991,775)
(3) 40 or fewer (3,984,900)
(2) 100 or fewer (3,968,400)
(1) 300 or fewer (3,913,400) 

#37 Yorukumoryuu Yamikaze
(6) AAA (3,228,650)
(5) 4 or fewer (3,227,550)
(4) 12 or fewer (3,225,350)
(3) 25 or fewer (3,221,775)
(2) 60 or fewer (3,212,150)
(1) 180 or fewer (3,179,150) 

#38 Piano Concerto 1 'ANTI-ARES' (For Kirby)
(6) 1 or fewer (2,867,225)
(5) 5 or fewer (2,866,125)
(4) 15 or fewer (2,863,375)
(3) 30 or fewer (2,859,250)
(2) 80 or fewer (2,845,500)
(1) 250 or fewer (2,798,750) 

#39 Ripoff
(6) 1 or fewer (1,495,475)
(5) 5 or fewer (1,494,375)
(4) 12 or fewer (1,492,450)
(3) 25 or fewer (1,488,875)
(2) 60 or fewer (1,479,250)
(1) 120 or fewer (1,462,750) 

#40 Ketsarku Mozgalom
(6)- 2 or fewer (2,533,700)
(5)- Single Digit Good (2,531,775)
(4)- 20 or fewer (2,528,750)
(3)- 50 or fewer (2,520,500)
(2)- 100 or fewer (2,506,750)
(1)- 200 or fewer (2,479,250)

#41 Pants
(6)- 2 or fewer (4,686,650)
(5)- 15 or fewer (4,683,075)
(4)- 35 or fewer (4,677,575)
(3)- 200 or fewer (4,632,200)
(2)- 4,000,000 or higher (4,000,000)
(1)- 3,400,000 or higher (3,400,000)

#42 Big Blue
(6)- AAA (2,123,500)
(5)- 4 or fewer (2,122,400)
(4)- 12 or fewer (2,120,200)
(3)- 25 or fewer (2,116,625)
(2)- 50 or fewer (2,109,750)
(1)- 150 or fewer (2,082,250)

#43 Piano Etude (Gymnastics)
(6)- 1 or fewer (1,941,875)
(5)- 8 or fewer (1,939,950)
(4)- 20 or fewer (1,936,650)
(3)- 40 or fewer (1,931,150)
(2)- 70 or fewer (1,922,900)
(1)- 150 or fewer (1,900,900)

#44 Blooddrunk [Heavy]
(6)- 1 or fewer (3,525,975)
(5)- 8 or fewer (3,524,050)
(4)- 25 or fewer (3,519,375)
(3)- 50 or fewer (3,512,500)
(2)- 100 or fewer (3,498,750)
(1)- 200 or fewer (3,471,250)

#45 Frictional Nevada
(6)- 1 or fewer (2,053,475)
(5)- 5 or fewer (2,052,375)
(4)- 15 or fewer (2,049,625)
(3)- 40 or fewer (2,042,750)
(2)- 80 or fewer (2,031,750)
(1)- 150 or fewer (2,012,500)

#46 BB Revenge
(6)- AAA (3,692,100)
(5)- 5 or fewer (3,690,725)
(4)- 15 or fewer (3,687,975)
(3)- 35 or fewer (3,682,475)
(2)- 80 or fewer (3,670,100)
(1)- 200 or fewer (3,637,100)

#47 He's A Radical Rat
(6)- AAA (2,986,850)
(5)- 4 or fewer (2,985,750)
(4)- 15 or fewer (2,982,725)
(3)- 30 or fewer (2,978,600)
(2)- 60 or fewer (2,970,350)
(1)- 200 or fewer (2,931,850)

#48 October
(6)- 1 or fewer (2,423,925)
(5)- 5 or fewer (2,422,825)
(4)- 15 or fewer (2,420,075)
(3)- 30 or fewer (2,415,950)
(2)- 60 or fewer (2,407,700)
(1)- 120 or fewer (2,391,200)

#49 Silly Symphony
(6)- AAA (3,445,650)
(5)- 4 or fewer (3,444,550)
(4)- 12 or fewer (3,442,350)
(3)- 25 or fewer (3,438,775)
(2)- 60 or fewer (3,429,150)
(1)- 200 or fewer (3,390,650)

#50 Nomina Nuda Tenemus
(6)- 2 or fewer (1,529,300)
(5)- 10 or fewer (1,527,100)
(4)- 25 or fewer (1,522,975)
(3)- 40 or fewer (1,518,850)
(2)- 80 or fewer (1,507,850)
(1)- 200 or fewer (1,474,850)

#51 Bloodmeat [Heavy]
(6)- AAA (2,952,750)
(5)- 4 or fewer (2,951,650)
(4)- 12 or fewer (2,949,450)
(3)- 30 or fewer (2,944,500)
(2)- 60 or fewer (2,936,250)
(1)- 150 or fewer (2,911,500)

#52 3020
(6)- AAA (2,473,800)
(5)- 5 or fewer (2,472,425)
(4)- 12 or fewer (2,470,500)
(3)- 25 or fewer (2,466,925)
(2)- 50 or fewer (2,460,050)
(1)- 120 or fewer (2,440,800)

#53 Toxiferous Dystopia
(6)- 1 or fewer (2,256,525)
(5)- 5 or fewer (2,255,425)
(4)- 12 or fewer (2,253,500)
(3)- 25 or fewer (2,249,925)
(2)- 60 or fewer (2,240,300)
(1)- 120 or fewer (2,223,800)

#54 bmv.578
(6)- AAA (1,912,700)
(5)- 5 or fewer (1,911,325)
(4)- 12 or fewer (1,909,400)
(3)- 25 or fewer (1,905,825)
(2)- 50 or fewer (1,898,950)
(1)- 120 or fewer (1,879,700)

#55 Dead and Direct
(6)- AAA (2,236,650)
(5)- 4 or fewer (2,235,550)
(4)- 12 or fewer (2,233,350)
(3)- 25 or fewer (2,229,775)
(2)- 50 or fewer (2,222,900)
(1)- 100 or fewer (2,209,150)

#56 Momentary Life
(6)- AAA (3,293,750)
(5)- 4 or fewer (3,292,650)
(4)- 12 or fewer (3,290,450)
(3)- 30 or fewer (3,285,500)
(2)- 60 or fewer (3,277,250)
(1)- 180 or fewer (3,244,250)

5/5 (41 songs)

#57 Starwolf
(5) AAA (1,790,250)
(4) 4 or fewer (1,789,150)
(3) 12 or fewer (1,786,950)
(2) 25 or fewer (1,783,375)
(1) 60 or fewer (1,773,750)

#58 I'm Sick of Uprock 
(5) 1 or fewer (3,369,425)
(4) 4 or fewer (3,368,600)
(3) 12 or fewer (3,366,400)
(2) 25 or fewer (3,362,825)
(1) 80 or fewer (3,347,700)

#59 Eradication
(5)- 1 or fewer (2,079,825)
(4)- 6 or fewer (2,078,450)
(3)- 15 or fewer (2,075,975)
(2)- 50 or fewer (2,066,350)
(1)- 150 or fewer (2,038,850)

#60 Piano Etude (Demon Fire)
(5)- 2 or fewer (2,614,300)
(4)- Single Digit Good (2,612,375)
(3)- 25 or fewer (2,607,975)
(2)- 60 or fewer (2,598,350)
(1)- 150 or fewer (2,573,600)

#61 The Adventures Of Lolo
(5)- 2 or fewer (811,650)
(4)- Single Digit Good (809,725)
(3)- 20 or fewer (806,700)
(2)- 50 or fewer (798,450)
(1)- 120 or higher (779,200)

#62 Reality
(5)- 2 or fewer (1,427,000)
(4)- 12 or fewer (1,424,250)
(3)- 30 or fewer (1,419,300)
(2)- 60 or fewer (1,411,050)
(1)- 120 or fewer (1,394,550)

#63 4 Chord Touhou
(5)- 2 or fewer (2,783,250)
(4)- Single Digit Good (2,781,325)
(3)- 30 or fewer (2,775,550)
(2)- 60 or fewer (2,767,300)
(1)- 150 or fewer (2,742,550)

#64 Mario Minor
(5)- 1 or fewer (3,797,225)
(4)- 5 or fewer (3,796,125)
(3)- 15 or fewer (3,793,375)
(2)- 50 or fewer (3,783,750)
(1)- 150 or fewer (3,756,250)

#65 Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran!
(5)- AAA (2,816,350)
(4)- 4 or fewer (2,815,250)
(3)- 12 or fewer (2,813,050)
(2)- 25 or fewer (2,809,475)
(1)- 80 or fewer (2,794,350)

#66 AIM Anthem
(5)- AAA (1,140,800)
(4)- 5 or fewer (1,139,425)
(3)- 15 or fewer (1,136,675)
(2)- 30 or fewer (1,132,550)
(1)- 80 or fewer (1,118,800)

#67 Club
(5)- AAA (888,150)
(4)- 4 or fewer (887,050)
(3)- 12 or fewer (884,850)
(2)- 25 or fewer (881,275)
(1)- 60 or fewer (871,650)

#68 Hajnal
(5)- 1 or fewer (3,099,725)
(4)- 4 or fewer (3,098,900)
(3)- Single Digit Good (3,097,525)
(2)- 25 or fewer (3,093,125)
(1)- 80 or fewer (3,078,000)

#69 For FFR
(5)- AAA (1,342,300)
(4)- 2 or fewer (1,341,750)
(3)- 6 or fewer (1,340,650)
(2)- 15 or fewer (1,338,175)
(1)- 40 or fewer (1,331,300)

#70 Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival
(5)- 1 or fewer (5,654,125)
(4)- 5 or fewer (5,653,025)
(3)- 20 or fewer (5,648,900)
(2)- 50 or fewer (5,640,650)
(1)- 200 or fewer (5,599,400)

#71 Gaussian Blur
(5)- AAA (1,550,000)
(4)- 4 or fewer (1,548,900)
(3)- 12 or fewer (1,546,700)
(2)- 25 or fewer (1,543,125)
(1)- 60 or fewer (1,533,500)

#72 Flight of the Bumblebee
(5)- AAA (1,336,100) (1,336,100)
(4)- 5 or fewer (1,334,725)
(3)- 12 or fewer (1,332,800)
(2)- 30 or fewer (1,327,850)
(1)- 70 or fewer (1,316,850)

#73 Otaku Speedvibe [Oni]
(5)- 1 or fewer (2,163,525)
(4)- 5 or fewer (2,162,425)
(3)- 15 or fewer (2,159,675)
(2)- 30 or fewer (2,155,550)
(1)- 80 or fewer (2,141,800)

#74 Caprice
(5)- 1 or fewer (2,014,725)
(4)- 5 or fewer (2,013,625)
(3)- 12 or fewer (2,011,700)
(2)- 30 or fewer (2,006,750)
(1)- 70 or fewer (1,995,750)

#75 BB Evolution
(5)- AAA (4,078,050)
(4)- 4 or fewer (4,076,950)
(3)- 12 or fewer (4,074,750)
(2)- 40 or fewer (4,067,050)
(1)- 100 or fewer (4,050,550)

#76 Kyrie
(5)- AAA (1,393,450)
(4)- 4 or fewer (1,392,350)
(3)- 12 or fewer (1,390,150)
(2)- 25 or fewer (1,386,575)
(1)- 60 or fewer (1,376,950)

#77 Largiloquent Dithyramb
(5)- AAA (2,487,750)
(4)- 4 or fewer (2,486,650)
(3)- 12 or fewer (2,484,450)
(2)- 25 or fewer (2,480,875)
(1)- 60 or fewer (2,471,250)

#78 Perfect Cherry Storm
(5)- 1 or fewer (1,661,325)
(4)- 5 or fewer (1,660,225)
(3)- 12 or fewer (1,658,300)
(2)- 25 or fewer (1,654,725)
(1)- 60 or fewer (1,645,100)

#79 Jeanie and Caroline
(5)- AAA (1,883,250)
(4)- 3 or fewer (1,882,425)
(3)- Single Digit Good (1,880,775)
(2)- 25 or fewer (1,876,375)
(1)- 50 or fewer (1,869,500)

#80 Black Key Etude
(5)- AAA (1,545,350)
(4)- 3 or fewer (1,544,525)
(3)- Single Digit Good (1,542,875)
(2)- 25 or fewer (1,538,475)
(1)- 50 or fewer (1,531,600)

#81 World Tour 2004
(5)- 1 or fewer (6,106,725)
(4)- 5 or fewer (6,105,625)
(3)- 25 or fewer (6,100,125)
(2)- 60 or fewer (6,090,500)
(1)- 150 or fewer (6,065,750)

#82 Church Bells
(5)- AAA (1,861,550)
(4)- 4 or fewer (1,860,450)
(3)- 12 or fewer (1,858,250)
(2)- 25 or fewer (1,854,675)
(1)- 50 or fewer (1,847,800)

#83 Brandish Headless
(5)- 1 or fewer (3,167,925)
(4)- 5 or fewer (3,166,825)
(3)- 15 or fewer (3,164,075)
(2)- 30 or fewer (3,159,950)
(1)- 80 or fewer (3,146,200)

#84 Master Maid
(5)- 1 or fewer (2,270,475)
(4)- 5 or fewer (2,269,375)
(3)- 12 or fewer (2,267,450)
(2)- 30 or fewer (2,262,500)
(1)- 60 or fewer (2,254,250)

#85 Thrash
(5)- AAA (3,237,950)
(4)- 4 or fewer (3,236,850)
(3)- 12 or fewer (3,234,650)
(2)- 25 or fewer (3,231,075)
(1)- 60 or fewer (3,221,450)

#86 Night and Day
(5)- AAA (3,881,200)
(4)- 4 or fewer (3,880,100)
(3)- 12 or fewer (3,877,900)
(2)- 25 or fewer (3,874,325)
(1)- 70 or fewer (3,861,950)

#87 Hellhounds On My Trail
(5)- 1 or fewer (3,758,475)
(4)- 5 or fewer (3,757,375)
(3)- 12 or fewer (3,755,450)
(2)- 25 or fewer (3,751,875)
(1)- 70 or fewer (3,739,500)

#88 Document 13b
(5)- 1 or fewer (1,817,875)
(4)- 5 or fewer (1,816,775)
(3)- 15 or fewer (1,814,025)
(2)- 30 or fewer (1,809,900)
(1)- 70 or fewer (1,798,900)

#89 Blue-Violet
(5)- AAA (1,416,700)
(4)- 4 or fewer (1,415,600)
(3)- 12 or fewer (1,413,400)
(2)- 25 or fewer (1,409,825)
(1)- 60 or fewer (1,400,200)

#90 Minute Waltz v2
(5)- AAA (1,480,250)
(4)- 3 or fewer (1,479,425)
(3)- 12 or fewer (1,476,950)
(2)- 25 or fewer (1,473,375)
(1)- 60 or fewer (1,463,750)

#91 Radio Heads
(5)- AAA (2,765,200)
(4)- 3 or fewer (2,764,375)
(3)- 12 or fewer (2,761,900)
(2)- 25 or fewer (2,758,325)
(1)- 60 or fewer (2,748,700)

#92 Disconnected Hardkore
(5)- AAA (1,856,900)
(4)- 4 or fewer (1,855,800)
(3)- 12 or fewer (1,853,600)
(2)- 25 or fewer (1,850,025)
(1)- 50 or fewer (1,843,150)

#93 Nanairopanda v2
(5)- AAA (2,173,100)
(4)- 4 or fewer (2,172,000)
(3)- 12 or fewer (2,169,800)
(2)- 25 or fewer (2,166,225)
(1)- 60 or fewer (2,156,600)

#94 300
(5)- AAA (1,725,150)
(4)- 4 or fewer (1,724,050)
(3)- 12 or fewer (1,721,850)
(2)- 25 or fewer (1,718,275)
(1)- 50 or fewer (1,711,400)

#95 Scythe of 13
(5)- AAA (3,338,700)
(4)- 4 or fewer (3,337,600)
(3)- 12 or fewer (3,335,400)
(2)- 25 or fewer (3,331,825)
(1)- 60 or fewer (3,322,200)

#96 Sonata Quasi Una Fantasia Mov.3
(5)- 1 or fewer (2,163,525)
(4)- 4 or fewer (2,162,700)
(3)- 12 or fewer (2,160,500)
(2)- 25 or fewer (2,156,925)
(1)- 60 or fewer (2,147,300)

#97 RunnyMorning (SGX MIX)
(5)- 1 or fewer (1,656,675)
(4)- 5 or fewer (1,655,575)
(3)- 15 or fewer (1,652,825)
(2)- 30 or fewer (1,648,700)
(1)- 60 or fewer (1,640,450)

4/4 (23 songs)

#98 Angel Island Remix
(4) 1 or fewer (1,796,175)
(3) Single Digit Good (1,793,975)
(2) 25 or fewer (1,789,575)
(1) 50 or fewer (1,782,700)

#99 Rottel-da-station
(4)- 2 or fewer (1,887,350)
(3)- Single Digit Good (1,885,425)
(2)- 20 or fewer (1,882,400)
(1)- 50 or fewer (1,874,150)

#100 Strangeprogram
(4)- 1 or fewer (2,234,825)
(3)- Single Digit Good (2,232,625)
(2)- 20 or fewer (2,229,600)
(1)- 50 or fewer (2,221,350)

#101 Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star
(4)- 2 or fewer (2,071,800)
(3)- Single Digit Good (2,069,875)
(2)- 25 or fewer (2,065,475)
(1)- 60 or fewer (2,055,850)

#102 Summer Time Perfume
(4)- 2 or fewer (2,581,750)
(3)- 12 or fewer (2,579,000)
(2)- 25 or fewer (2,575,425)
(1)- 60 or fewer (2,565,800)

#103 Gacha Gacha Hertz Figu atto Radio
(4)- 2 or fewer (2,009,800)
(3)- 12 or fewer (2,007,050)
(2)- 25 or fewer (2,003,475)
(1)- 60 or fewer (1,993,850)

#104 Epidermis
(4)- 1 or fewer (1,979,075)
(3)- 7 or fewer (1,977,425)
(2)- 20 or fewer (1,973,850)
(1)- 50 or fewer (1,965,600)

#105 Szerencsetlen
(4)- 1 or fewer (3,445,375)
(3)- 5 or fewer (3,444,275)
(2)- 12 or fewer (3,442,350)
(1)- 35 or fewer (3,436,025)

#106 M.A.M.A.
(4)- 1 or fewer (1,957,375)
(3)- 5 or fewer (1,956,275)
(2)- 15 or fewer (1,953,525)
(1)- 40 or fewer (1,946,650)

#107 Lawn Wake I (LW EP Edit)
(4)- 1 or fewer (2,196,075)
(3)- 5 or fewer (2,194,975)
(2)- 15 or fewer (2,192,225)
(1)- 40 or fewer (2,185,350)

#108 Novo Mundo
(4)- AAA (1,959,200)
(3)- 5 or fewer (1,957,825)
(2)- 15 or fewer (1,955,075)
(1)- 40 or fewer (1,948,200)

#109 Choprite
(4)- AAA (2,783,800)
(3)- 4 or fewer (2,782,700)
(2)- 12 or fewer (2,780,500)
(1)- 40 or fewer (2,772,800)

#110 Southern Cross
(4)- AAA (3,290,650)
(3)- 3 or fewer (3,289,825)
(2)- Single Digit Good (3,288,175)
(1)- 30 or fewer (3,282,400)

#111 The Divine Suicide of K [Heavy]
(4)- 1 or fewer (3,866,975)
(3)- 8 or fewer (3,865,050)
(2)- 25 or fewer (3,860,375)
(1)- 80 or fewer (3,845,250)

#112 Melonman's OP
(4)- AAA (1,855,350)
(3)- 4 or fewer (1,854,250)
(2)- 12 or fewer (1,852,050)
(1)- 35 or fewer (1,845,725)

#113 Midnight Dragon
(4)- AAA (2,163,800)
(3)- 5 or fewer (2,162,425)
(2)- 15 or fewer (2,159,675)
(1)- 40 or fewer (2,152,800)

#114 Going On Spring Wind
(4)- AAA (1,846,050)
(3)- 3 or fewer (1,845,225)
(2)- Single Digit Good (1,843,575)
(1)- 30 or fewer (1,837,800)

#115 Run Through The Stream Of Time
(4)- AAA (3,473,550)
(3)- 5 or fewer (3,472,175)
(2)- 15 or fewer (3,469,425)
(1)- 40 or fewer (3,462,550)

#116 Battle Theme #37
(4)- AAA (2,072,350)
(3)- 5 or fewer (2,070,975)
(2)- 12 or fewer (2,069,050)
(1)- 35 or fewer (2,062,725)

#117 Keep In Mind
(4)- AAA (2,128,150)
(3)- 5 or fewer (2,126,775)
(2)- 12 or fewer (2,124,850)
(1)- 35 or fewer (2,118,525)

#118 Kanon-Kanon
(4)- AAA (1,832,100)
(3)- 5 or fewer (1,830,725)
(2)- 15 or fewer (1,827,975)
(1)- 40 or fewer (1,821,100)

#119 CRASH the BEAT!
(4)- AAA (2,986,850)
(3)- 4 or fewer (2,985,750)
(2)- 12 or fewer (2,983,550)
(1)- 35 or fewer (2,977,225)

#120 Bus Rides With People
(4)- AAA (1,652,300)
(3)- 4 or fewer (1,651,200)
(2)- 12 or fewer (1,649,000)
(1)- 35 or fewer (1,642,675)

[Bonuses]
*Not updated*

[Questions / Answers]
What are the new requirements to reach a Tier for this update?
This has not been determined at the moment. Jimerax will most likely handle that sometime really soon.

Why can't this tier point system support 10+ requirements?
The tier point system code doesn't support 10+ requirements at the moment.

Why did you guys make the requirements stricter?
To determine the "Top Players" skills much more accurately.

[Suggestions]
qqwref = http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...25&postcount=9

emulord = To make it more approachable to non-pros, lets add some 1-3 pt requirements of songs that are VD-VC. This way, a AAA of an easier song might seem more in reach than Full Combo a FMO, and it doesn't encourage mashing.
We are planning to do something like this to focus more on the lower players however we would need to talk to Sprite- about it first: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=3626

Key:
Red = Question / Suggestion has been looked at but has not been answered
Green = Answered
Blue = We don't know the answer to your question. Try PMing an administrator
Black = Our responses to your questions and suggestions

[Credits]
jimerax - Founder/Coordinator
i love you - Coordinator
Sprite- - Updater
lightdarkness - Developer

Comments? Suggestions? Complaints? Post them and I (or someone capable) will respond.

[jimerax]

reserved

[bmah]

"Red Wings Over Bacon"? wtf??

[leonid]

Originally Posted by bmah

"Red Wings Over Bacon"? wtf??

ahahahaha

[jimerax]

lol fixed that.

and I'll actually change ingame reqs soon.

[Velocity]

Sounds Like I have work to do. gah.

Also, the dead thread links are broken.

[i love you]

Originally Posted by Velocity

The dead thread links are broken.

Broken links fixed. Updated

Originally Posted by bmah

"Red Wings Over Bacon"? wtf??

Wow, didn't even notice that lmao

EDIT: I think there's a bug somewhere in the system

[Fantasticone]

I like how some Master songs are worth more points than a Guru.

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by Fantasticone

I like how some Master songs are worth more points than a Guru.

^^

[qqwref]

I had an idea that I think would make the TP system more fair (better at judging comparative skill). It won't require much extra work, either.

Essentially my proposal is this: remove all non-FC points. No matter how hard a song is, the lowest FC tier would be worth only 1 point, and any points after that would be based on PA. As an example from the old ranks, a low 11 like Epidermis might have ranks like this:
(1) 100 or fewer (2) 40 or fewer (3) 20 or fewer (4) 7 or fewer (5) 2 or fewer (6) AAA
but, a high 12 like Almost There could have ranks like this:
(1) 200 or fewer (2) 100 or fewer (3) 40 or fewer (4) 20 or fewer (5) 9 or fewer (6) 3 or fewer (7) AAA
The harder a song is to PA (if you can FC it), the more accuracy points there would be, up to a maximum of 9 if necessary.

Here are some benefits I see:
- Mashing FCs will no longer give you a huge boost in points compared to people who can't mash as well. If you're not skilled enough to PA a song, you probably wouldn't be getting more than 1 TP from it.
- In the same vein, this system doesn't encourage people to mash, because it rewards an improvement on PA as much as a new FC. The old system rewards a new FC a lot more, if it's a difficult one.
- The limit of 9 points per song won't be a problem anymore - you can have easy and hard requirements in the same system. Right now, if you want requirements that challenge the best players, you have to knock everything down a point, but with this idea you can have a very easy 1-point req for a low 11, while still having ridiculous reqs on DP and RATO.
- If you can support both very easy and very hard requirements, you also create a system that is relevant to both lower players (starting to FC 10s and 11s) and godly players (AAAing most FGOs).
- Since this system is only PA-based, it totally gets rid of arbitrary point-based tiers.
- If completely PA-based scoring (where you don't need to FC) ever gets implemented, this idea will lend itself really well to that, but the current system won't. If everything is based on PA, it will all still make sense.

Here are some downsideS:
- All 1/x point (and so on) will no longer be the same difficulty. However, keeping them the same isn't as important as making sure the total TPs accurately reflect skill, and PA is skill.
- This system does extra well with a wider difficulty range (say high 10 and up, rather than mid 11 and up), so it wouldn't be used optimally if you just have the hardest 120 songs. I'd recommend choosing a good number of representative songs to use, rather than trying to stay updated with the latest FGOs.

[jimerax]

Just updated all song reqs.

MAX Points = 689 (not including the bonus)

will determine AAA bonus and Tier Reqs later. have fun.

[One Winged Angel]

Originally Posted by jimerax

MAX Points = 689 (not including the bonus)

this can't be right, I'm at 663 right now and I'm missing a ton of stuff

edit: ohp, my mistake, the bonus still exists right now, I thought it was temporarily removed

[kmay]

what are the req's for the tiers?

[bob bob]

this is more like a tier point system which only rubix/dossar can get all points lol

[8 Hour Whore]

lmao there goes all my tiers

[igotrhythm]

Originally Posted by 8 Hour Whore

lmao there goes all my tiers

This. Once again, just as I'm starting to accumulate TP, there's a system change that wipes at least two-thirds of what I did on it. D:<

Edit: I also disagree with the presence of token songs on the list, such as Gaussian Blur 1. They may be hard enough as a file, but the fact remains that not everyone possesses the wherewithal to solve the puzzles and find the tokens. (I know I suck at riddles, which is why I'm not even going to try NotFFRon.) If we're going to find out the top players, skill alone needs to be the main criterion, so while I support the presence of skill tokens (BB Revenge, Melonman's OP), the hidden tokens need to go. Anti-skill tokens like Nanairopanda v2 fall into a sort of gray area in this system.

[emulord]

I have a suggestion. To make it more approachable to non-pros, lets add some 1-3 pt requirements of songs that are VD-VC. This way, a AAA of an easier song might seem more in reach than FCing a FMO, and it doesnt encourage mashing.

[duddychuck@yahoo.com]

Originally Posted by emulord

I have a suggestion. To make it more approachable to non-pros, lets add some 1-3 pt requirements of songs that are VD-VC. This way, a AAA of an easier song might seem more in reach than FCing a FMO, and it doesnt encourage mashing.

This^ I think it should revolve around the whole game or at least the later half of the songs rather than just the higher level songs

[i love you]

The adventures of lolo and Reality are not 6 point worthy. If those songs were both set as an AAA for 6 points, it would be slightly lenient.

[One Winged Angel]

so you're saying Yorukumoryuu Yamikaze is harder to AAA than Reality?

yeah, the current AAAs prove otherwise because the pros whored the living crap out of Reality but that's definitely not true