|
View Poll Results: Implement the idea? (read post first) | |||
Yes | 17 | 94.44% | |
No | 1 | 5.56% | |
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
01-29-2005, 12:17 AM | #1 |
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
The Wisemen's Committee
Okay, I have a proposition.
I've been working on a formal set of all the rules of TWG and have realized that we have no governing body for interpreting the rules, issuing bans, etc. As of now, it's essentially mob rule. Some people interpret me as the leader of TWG, since I brought the game to the site. However, I don't feel comfortable issuing out judgment left and right. But TWG needs some sort of authority - a government, if you will. I propose TWC - The Wisemen's Committee - to regulate rules disputes within the game, issue out punishments, approve (and amend, if necessary) the official rules, and sort of be the "supreme court" of the game. I'd rather this be a committee than just me doing that job, because I'm humble like that. Chardish. I've hosted more games here than any other host (4), and I think I put a lot of work into this game. Without trying to blow my own horn, I think I've got the credentials to be on the committee. Blahblah. Blah's a veteran player and a sharp thinker. But he's also a stickler for technicality and an inventive mind - he came up with rules disputes during Infiltration that I hadn't even thought of. Kilgamayan. Kilga's been playing longer than any of us, back at Bemanistyle for months before TWG came to FFR. I've never met someone stricter about the no PMs rule. Kilga would make a good member of the team because he's not life-or-death about TWG, but definitely cares about it and knows what he's talking about when it comes to rules disputes. Tasselfoot. I realize this may be controversial due to his cheating in TWG VII, however, I think he flat out knew what he was doing, and since has been more intolerant of cheating. Tasselfoot's been here since Game 1 and I don't think anyone here loves the game more than he does. He also knows what he's doing when it comes to minute disputes like instalynches and phantom votes. He's a good host, too - even though some people didn't like the 1-wolf aspect of it, I think everyone will agree that TWG IX was run flawlessly. GuidoHunter. He's also been with TWG since the beginning, and has shown a strict intolerance towards cheating of every kind. He also brings a lot of energy and spirit to the game without getting caught up in it like so many of us so often do. Guido also shows a great deal of common sense at every opportunity. I think Guido would be a fine addition to the TWC. If anyone listed here definitely would not want to be on the committee, please post so. Regarding new members to the TWC, I think that the number should always stay at 5 so that in the case of a split decision it could never be a tie (much like the Supreme Court.) If someone wants to leave, their replacement is chosen by the remaining members, not by them. I would hope that it would never come to this, but if someone were to be forcefully removed from the TWC it would take the votes of all 4 other members. So I think this would work, and is necessary. Opinions? *note: TWC is another MGS reference, but I'm obsessed like that |
01-29-2005, 12:39 AM | #2 |
Super Scooter Happy
|
RE: The Wisemen
Yeah, sure, I'd do this.
__________________
I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds. |
01-29-2005, 07:15 AM | #3 |
FFR Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Small town, TN
Age: 37
Posts: 5,784
|
RE: The Wisemen
If only such a committee were completely unnecessary....
__________________
So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =( In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz. So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright. And I write the blog for their website. Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O |
01-29-2005, 08:46 AM | #4 |
Retired BOSS
|
RE: The Wisemen
Funny thing is, Chardish asked me who I thought the 5 were, and we agreed on 4/5 right off the bat, and after hearing his 5th I immediately agreed with the choice.
__________________
RIP |
01-29-2005, 09:07 AM | #5 |
Summer!!
|
RE: The Wisemen
I agree with 4 out of 5, but I'd rather not say who I don't agree with, for fear of hurting their feelings.
__________________
|
01-29-2005, 09:25 AM | #6 |
Super Scooter Happy
|
RE: The Wisemen
I think everyone on that list is man enough that their feeling won't get hurt because someone on the internet doesn't think they'd do a good enough job.
I know I wouldn't. If you have a problem with me I'd work toward fixing it rather than whining.
__________________
I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds. |
01-29-2005, 10:03 AM | #7 |
Admiral in the Red Army
|
RE: The Wisemen
I agree with this idea completely. Except I don't think Tass should be on there. His interpretations of the rules are terrible. Like when he thought a phantom vote didn't count toward a instalynch. That really bothered me. Plus with his weak rule manipulation of the past he used that many saw as cheating. Then there's the times that he actually knowingly cheated. Then there's the time when he IM'd me telling me that his girlfriend was human when he knew full and well that she was a wolf (I'm not saying he should have been honest and told me she was a wolf; I'm saying he should've never IM'd me in the first place).
I agree with all the others in this group though. Ok, after thinking about this a little (think of this like an added edit, except I hadn't actually submitted yet), it seems that Tass may very well be the best candidate for the fifth person. I can't think of anyone who could readily take his place of the top of my head. I suppose Tass's slanted opinions on the rules won't matter much anyway, because he'll be counter'd by the other four.
__________________
|
01-29-2005, 10:21 AM | #8 |
Retired BOSS
|
RE: The Wisemen
Afro: few things. My interpretation of phantom votes is 100% accurate. If you go back to the thread where that is discussed, you'll see how/what I described with phantoms. It wasn't that they didn't count, just that they don't count in a situation like this: 5 people, 1 has phantom. 2 wolves vote for the phantom'd and give him 3 votes. That isn't an instalynch (although it was ruled to be one in the game we're talking about). Why is it not a phantom? Because if all 3 other people voted for someone else, their 3 votes would outweigh the 2+phantom.
My dealings with you in TWG8 were the same as with anyone else. I IMed you wanting to know about the game, as I'm sure most outsiders do. YOU then asked me about Whorli, and I gave the answer that I always give for anyone asking that question. Human. It is the single most retarded question that can possibly be asked in TWG, as there is only 1 answer, right or wrong. I'm sure others will agree with me, that I'm the best candidate for finding obscure loopholes in the rules and manipulating them. If I were on this board, I would be able to quickly fix the issues at hand so that others wouldn't be able to abuse them. Since my banning, I've been quite adamently against cheating. And, the fact is, I do bring a different perspective to this group. I origionally suggested roopert to be apart of it, as he doesn't talk much with everyone else. His opinion is fairly unbiased in that regard. But, for the same reason, his voice doesn't carry much respect, purely because he has stayed away from the limelight. If you look at this group, it is 5 people with 5 different views on the game. Chardish has the view mostly from running games, Blah has the view from playing only, Kilga has the most experience, I've got a ton of heart for the game and logic, and Guido brings a nice solid medium throughout his games.
__________________
RIP |
01-29-2005, 12:36 PM | #9 |
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
RE: The Wisemen
At first I disagreed with Tass' interpretation of phantom votes but then I realized that his way actually made more sense. Before, it was actually to your advantage to have a phantom vote, as it practically guaranteed that you would never be wolfed.
|
01-29-2005, 12:37 PM | #10 |
FFR Player
|
RE: The Wisemen
As you see, I was always for Tass's / my interpretation of phantom votes
__________________
but for now... postCount++ |
01-29-2005, 02:06 PM | #11 |
FFR Player
|
RE: The Wisemen
I think this is a great idea, and hopefully just the presence of the commitee will discourage anyone from cheating, so they won't have to deal out bans.
|
01-29-2005, 02:41 PM | #12 |
FFR Player
|
RE: The Wisemen
This seems a bit intimidating.
But I guess I support it.
__________________
hi |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|