Old 08-21-2012, 02:09 PM   #301
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Down to 174, 16% body fat and back in the green light of BMI!

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Old 08-21-2012, 03:24 PM   #302
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Biked 11.2km yesterday and today, legs are feeling like jelly, but I like it. Amazing back and bicep workout yesterday, and a nice chest and triceps workout today.

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Old 08-21-2012, 03:25 PM   #303
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Lost 5 lbs since start of this thread haha
Need to eat moar wasn't planning on losing just staying steady and building muscle
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:40 PM   #304
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Today I ate my first meal at 5PM and it made me sick to my stomach. I then went to the gym, and am currently ingesting 2000 calories worth of potatoes, steak, brown rice, broccoli and weight gainer. My stomach is going to shit its pants.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:01 PM   #305
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Just ran 12 miles in two hours for the longest run of my life. Still feel a little sick but definitely worth it.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:04 PM   #306
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13.1 ;p

nice one though. i've never gone more than five or seven or whatevs
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to stay relevant:

i qualified for boston marathon about 4 months ago
since then i've been running varied distances every day, usually not less than 3 miles

i ran about 3.5 today
tomorrow is distance aka ~15miles hrrrrrnnnnnng
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:56 AM   #308
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I hate long distance running.

There are a couple reasons why, but most importantly is that it's antithetical maintaining lean body mass and is largely inefficient compared to HIIT (High intensity interval training).

HIIT can give a more effective workout in less than 10 minutes. I define more effective as vastly increased fat burning and increased muscle preservation or hypertrophy per unit time. This has been supported by a number of scientific studies.

It's so simple. You can just go outside or stay in if you have an elliptical with resistance settings. What you do is run or pedal at your absolute maximum capacity for 20-30 seconds, stop for 1-2 minutes, and then repeat 3-4 times.


The reason this is far more efficient is essentially this: the net effect of long distance running is actually catabolism. After muscular adaptation to your current running pace happens, microtrauma to the muscle actually stops and the only thing that running long distances does to your muscles is burn fuel. This type of training has a net catabolic effect because smaller muscles are more energy efficient, and with no demand for level of intensity, a smaller muscle is desirable. That's why marathon runners look like they're from Ethiopia.

Contrast with HIIT. Performing at maximum intensity over short intervals has a net anabolic effect. The muscle becomes more efficient by increasing the maximum intensity of performance, which equates to muscular hypertrophy and increased lean body mass to fat ratio. It also tends to produce all of the other benefits of long distance running too, such as increased VO2 max, decreased resting heart rate etc. That's also (part of) the reason why sprinters look like they're from swoletown.


I guess in the end it depends on what you're looking for, but I much prefer HIIT. The ONLY downside to HIIT IMO is increased recovery time. Because HIIT is basically the same as weight training, it needs to be followed by a sufficiently large recovery period. So, I only do it every 10-14 days or so.

But yeah:

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you left out that it can be very boring


lol pic of "runner"
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If I wanted to do HIIT, is replacing normal cardio with it fine (Tues/Thurs) for 10m a pop? Or am I probably better off just doing 20-30m steady-state cardio?

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If I wanted to do HIIT, is replacing normal cardio with it fine (Tues/Thurs) for 10m a pop? Or am I probably better off just doing 20-30m steady-state cardio?
Up to you really. You could do both. In your situation, you're mostly concerned about weight loss, so low intensity cardio is certainly an option since it's basically just a calorie burn.

You can easily burn more calories doing HIIT for 10 minutes though vs 30 minutes walking. You could give it a try and see how you feel. The first time you do it, it will probably destroy you though lmao, so make sure you rest for 3-4 days before attempting it again and switch back to low intensity for those in between days. Eventually once you get used to it you can do it every second day.
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Maybe for now I'll just do HIIT Tues. and steady-state Thurs. or something.

Is it just alternating the intensity (on say, an elliptical)? Crank up the resistance, go as hard as you can for a minute, turn down the resistance and steady-state for a minute, repeat, etc?
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Maybe for now I'll just do HIIT Tues. and steady-state Thurs. or something.

Is it just alternating the intensity (on say, an elliptical)? Crank up the resistance, go as hard as you can for a minute, turn down the resistance and steady-state for a minute, repeat, etc?
Yeah sure, don't be afraid to alternate between HIIT on some days and steady state on others, especially since you're just trying to lose weight. Calories are calories. There are all kinds of ways to burn them, and mixing it up will keep things interesting.

I wouldn't really worry about favoring one type of cardio over another until you're a lot learner and decide on the type of body you want to have, and figure out the easiest way to incorporate cardio into your daily life. If you want to train for endurance, just know that your body will reflect that, or vise versa if you train for explosiveness.


I get a kick out of reality tv shows or game shows where they have endurance competitions, like hang onto something for x amount of time. There's always one or two guys that are completely yoked and they always fall off first and everyone is always like :O

And the skinniest person wins every time.
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2 miles in under 10 min is a workout ^.^
But not for losing weight just for smaller muscle builders and endurance. I do this every couple days to keep myself in shape. 2 miles is no marathon and you can keep most of it at a steady sprint.
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Most of the top DDR/ITG players are skinny as hell, as well XD
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Being skinny in my opinion doesn't work for me.
Also, being extremely bulky is just too much.
I prefer to keep my body type a little built but mostly cut.
This way I am capable of doing most of anything I want or need to do.
I am 5'9" at 190lbs and I have no limitations on flexibility. I train my body to be strong and flexible at the same time thus I create strength with no extra limitations.
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2 miles in under 10 min is a workout ^.^
But not for losing weight just for smaller muscle builders and endurance. I do this every couple days to keep myself in shape. 2 miles is no marathon and you can keep most of it at a steady sprint.
2 miles in 10 mins? Lol you may want to recalculate your distance, friend.

Unless you're on scholarship or getting paid to run, of course

I will completely disagree with you that it's a sprint (or even close) though. If you're actually running anywhere even remotely that fast, you would be logging more than 2 miles every few days just to stay in shape.
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What if I told you the "runner" can run for 2 hours at a pace faster than your sprints during HIIT?

Just a thought... yeah long distance running may not be the best way to look good, but it is more than just jogging around. We do intervals too, and pretty damn hard ones at that.


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I actually do agree with you thought about HIIT being more effective than just distance running, at least for quick results. I am just saying that combining the two will get you WAY fitter (cardio wise) than just HIIT.
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2 miles in 10 mins? Lol you may want to recalculate your distance, friend.

Unless you're on scholarship or getting paid to run, of course

I will completely disagree with you that it's a sprint (or even close) though. If you're actually running anywhere even remotely that fast, you would be logging more than 2 miles every few days just to stay in shape.
I am military and I'm forced to run 2 miles in under 15:30 to pass but with all the training I have remained at 9:40 to 10:15.
I know people that beat my time easily so it's not improbable. I have a body fat mass of 9.85%

Bball can probably run 2 miles in the low 9min range so there is an example
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I am military and I'm forced to run 2 miles in under 15:30 to pass but with all the training I have remained at 9:40 to 10:15.
I know people that beat my time easily so it's not improbable. I have a body fat mass of 9.85%
On a track or on a self measured course?

Of course it is possible... but I agree with Rebel runner that unless you are doing much more consistent endurance training, you aren't running 2 miles in 10 minutes.
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