jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

[Hakulyte]

Do you think there's a point to wait for the replacement to happen and see if that person has a few things to say that could change the game that we all missed?

I'm about to afk for a few hours.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Hmm, personally I'd rather have the replacement not be able to say one thing this day, and make it easier for him to slip on the last day.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

Hmm, personally I'd rather have the replacement not be able to say one thing this day, and make it easier for him to slip on the last day.

How does that work for helping town?

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Sanzath, where are you with Op/Rapta at this point ?

Do you have a preference for the final 3 phase assuming votes go wrong?

Here's what I've been thinking about. It's split up between D1 (the lynch and how all of the potential wolves voted for him, or declared they wanted to vote for him.) and D2 (the interactions so far). (Writing this down, I've also changed my opinion on Rapta)

Op immediately unvoted after I called out Andy, and while I like that he was the first to do it, it could also be a "oh shit no way this is going unnoticed" reaction. I'd be surprised to see such a quick reaction from a wolf though, but I guess that's the point by now.

Then, you did your reread and long-post, after which you declared that you would be voting for Andy. From someone like you who's played this so much, I'm a little surprised it took you so long to notice my post and reconsider.

Then Rapta only went onto the bandwagon after he saw that the 3 other declared VTs AND the other Tracker claim were against Andy. I'm assuming Rapta is a new player - correct me if I'm wrong - but I think this is about when he would rather vote against his partner, if he is the other wolf. Then he got mad when people started thinking he was a wolf. idk man.

But then there's the whole thing where Op suddenly wanted us all to insta Sven, even after he'd put his own vote on Andy. He explained his reasoning behind the 50% but not behind the "let's kill Sven instead", it's really weird.

Basically, they both had weird stuff going on on D1.

As for D2, well you're pushing really hard against me, but your explanations make sense. As I've said to Op already, if I was wolf, that'd be sick. But I'll go ahead and declare that if you're wolf, that'd be sicker just because of the ballsy self-vote. You're at the bottom of my list, and even though you say you're bad at F3, I do want to see you there.

Only thing Rapta's done D2 is declare he's subbing out, the hell am I supposed to do with this? I kinda want to see him lynched because he's already suspicious to me and he's suddenly becoming a wildcard, and his rep will have a very good reason to not have any interactions, being that he just wasn't there.

Op was really trying to tear apart everything you said and said with his vote on you, "you fcked up too badly just now for me to reconsider your stance." It's pretty wolfy, but I'm thinking this may be a little too aggressive for a wolf playstyle, especially at this stage of the game. But that really might just be the point.

If by some miracle, Sven survives the night, I want him in F3. But barring this unlikely scenario, my preference is myself, you and Op.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

How does that work for helping town?

Going with your words, he wouldn't have a chance at faking progression if he were to post a lot today.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Sanz, here's what I think of your big post:

You say mostly in every points you make: "A is possible, but then it might not be."

While I understand your point of view on everything you mentionned, there's nothing helping nor going against town in what you said.

If You/Haku/Me is the way you wanna go, I don't think I would mind and here's why: I don't think Haku insta will happen so I'm forced to go with another vote. You guys seem to agree that lynching Rapta is a good idea; I don't disagree with it because if he's wolf, I'll be happy that the game ends without having to find any read on a brand new replacement. If he's not wolf, 2 of us will have to make a pretty damn tough decision, and to me, it'll most likely be a gut feeling and not a big analysis of the previous interactions, the reason being that I have both of you listed as top wolves right now.

Finally, Sanz, why I agreed to lynch Sven at some point: He played way too selfishly and imposed his pretty non-sensical strategy to everybody, which I didn't like at all.

So I hope I'm being clear with my intentions here, if you guys wanna lynch Rapta that badly, I'll join in.

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Do you think there's a point to wait for the replacement to happen and see if that person has a few things to say that could change the game that we all missed?

I'm about to afk for a few hours.

Do you mean waiting actively (not saying anything until he shows up) or passively (not instalynching before he shows up)?

I'm going to assume the second, even though I don't see an instalynch happening quite yet.

I've already stated that I want him out, so if he's wolf then gg, but if he's VT and he's lynched today, then his insight is valuable - especially as an outsider who isn't quite so invested in personal accusations. So yes, let him talk, imo.

[Hateandhatred]

Wow tim hortons wifi for a few minutes while I google how to fix a giant hole in my drywall lol oops I only know how to patch small ones.

I'm glad to see you guys press on each others this way, can't wait to analyze what you all had to say. Took a quick glance and endgame is going to be very interesting!

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by sanzath

I've already stated that I want him out, so if he's wolf then gg, but if he's VT and he's lynched today, then his insight is valuable - especially as an outsider who isn't quite so invested in personal accusations. So yes, let him talk, imo.

Rapta left such a blank slate (other than a few weird actions) that the replacement will have to reread the whole thread like 3 times in order to not post something that could look like a slip but in fact is just something he forgot/didn't notice.

Tell me, do you think there's a chance that mr.replacement makes you change your mind ? If so, I want him out ASAP.

I've been saying this whole phase my picks are Haku/Sanz; if you're not willing to insta Rapta, which is my last pick mind you, then I'll probably go against you next day if I'm alive.

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

I said it long ago, my opinion on Sanz is he's either a great town or a great wolf.

Well you technically said that yesterday x)

But that's irrelevant. brb tho

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Well you technically said that yesterday x)

But that's irrelevant. brb tho

Maybe I'm spending so damn much of my time waiting for stuff to happen in here that it looks like an eternity.... "sigh"

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

Sanz, here's what I think of your big post:

You say mostly in every points you make: "A is possible, but then it might not be."

While I understand your point of view on everything you mentionned, there's nothing helping nor going against town in what you said.

(Oh, so this is what Haku means by playing safe, woops)
I'll quickly make a list of what I think is more likely from each of my points.
-Op unvoting quickly: not wolfy
-Haku revoting slowly: a little wolfy
-Andy revoting last: wolfy
-Op wanting to insta Sven: tbd*
-Haku accusing me: not wolfy
-Rapta subbing out: not wolfy nor unwolfy, just something that throws me off
-Op going after Haku aggressively: potentially wolfy, but I'm thinking not

*regarding you wanting to insta Sven:

Finally, Sanz, why I agreed to lynch Sven at some point: He played way too selfishly and imposed his pretty non-sensical strategy to everybody, which I didn't like at all.

I don't mean "at some point", I mean specifically this:
#454
#557

I know it's nitpicking, I'm just making sure you're answering the right question: you said you thought it was more likely to be Andy than Sven, and later turned around declaring it was 50% and that you preferred insta-ing Sven - without changing your vote yourself. What made you do this?

If You/Haku/Me is the way you wanna go, I don't think I would mind and here's why: I don't think Haku insta will happen so I'm forced to go with another vote. You guys seem to agree that lynching Rapta is a good idea; I don't disagree with it because if he's wolf, I'll be happy that the game ends without having to find any read on a brand new replacement. If he's not wolf, 2 of us will have to make a pretty damn tough decision, and to me, it'll most likely be a gut feeling and not a big analysis of the previous interactions, the reason being that I have both of you listed as top wolves right now.

So I hope I'm being clear with my intentions here, if you guys wanna lynch Rapta that badly, I'll join in.

cool, u sheepin bruh?

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by sanzath

-Andy revoting last: wolfy

This should read "Rapta revoting last: wolfy"

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

Rapta left such a blank slate (other than a few weird actions) that the replacement will have to reread the whole thread like 3 times in order to not post something that could look like a slip but in fact is just something he forgot/didn't notice.

Tell me, do you think there's a chance that mr.replacement makes you change your mind ? If so, I want him out ASAP.

I've been saying this whole phase my picks are Haku/Sanz; if you're not willing to insta Rapta, which is my last pick mind you, then I'll probably go against you next day if I'm alive.

I want him lynched regardless of what he says - we can use D3 to act on any new, substantial information he can provide on D2. It's not about what he can tell us about himself (or Rapta), it's about what he can tell us about everyone else that interests me.

[sanzath]

Jesus christ it's 9 already? I'm gonna go eat supper.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by sanzath

cool, u sheepin bruh?

Voluntarily disregarding the rest of your post, although I read it all.

Am I sheeping ? I don't even understand where you'd get that question other than to try to get more reactions (?) from me or something like that. The exact post you quoted from me explains why I'd follow with rapta lynch.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by sanzath

I want him lynched regardless of what he says - we can use D3 to act on any new, substantial information he can provide on D2. It's not about what he can tell us about himself (or Rapta), it's about what he can tell us about everyone else that interests me.

If you're being what's regarded as a good town player this game, I'm most certainly not up to the task.

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

Voluntarily disregarding the rest of your post, although I read it all.

Am I sheeping ? I don't even understand where you'd get that question other than to try to get more reactions (?) from me or something like that. The exact post you quoted from me explains why I'd follow with rapta lynch.

welp, it was a shitpost because you're in general agreeing with my idea for F3 but for really different reasons so no, I'm not accusing you of sheeping

[sanzath]

The important part of that sentence was "cool"

[xXOpkillerXx]

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