League of Legends

[xferrarix]

What are people's opinions on here of Fiddle jungle? Personally it reminds me of Warwick's. Almost completely useless until level 6, if you don't get invaded

I haven't played one Fiddle jungle game where I wasn't invaded and lost blue. It's annoying, especially since when everyone protecting it can't save it either. Any strategies on avoiding that? And I'm not saying WW's is bad, but I can say it's better than Fiddles just because he becomes invincible late game.

[All_That_Chaz]

He's certainly better at lvl6, but he's not as useless as warwick before 6. If you can catch the guy with his lane pushed, you can land a fear which keeps him from escaping. Once feared, you can drain him and your buddy should be able to catch up to deal damage. You also have a long range attack to finish him off. Warwick doesn't have any of these tools.

Your team just needs to do a better job of defending. Use clairvoyance to scare them off. If necessary, get your team to initiate a lvl1 teamfight to protect your blue.

[Anaru]

Originally Posted by xferrarix

What are people's opinions on here of Fiddle jungle? Personally it reminds me of Warwick's. Almost completely useless until level 6, if you don't get invaded

I haven't played one Fiddle jungle game where I wasn't invaded and lost blue. It's annoying, especially since when everyone protecting it can't save it either. Any strategies on avoiding that? And I'm not saying WW's is bad, but I can say it's better than Fiddles just because he becomes invincible late game.

Have you tried invading their blue?

Have your support run CV and go invade the shit out of their blue. Even better, force a teamfight and try to come out on top. (Trade for more kills than deaths.)

[xferrarix]

I did that last game I played, and then their entire team just moved to their blue right after because their alistar invested in like 3~4 wards right when the game started lol it was a lose-lose situation

[Anaru]

Originally Posted by xferrarix

I did that last game I played, and then their entire team just moved to their blue right after because their alistar invested in like 3~4 wards right when the game started lol it was a lose-lose situation

1) Your support should CV the enemy Nexus ASAP (after they buy their items) to get a sense of where they're going, and who's bought what.

2) Your CV should be off CD before blue spawns. Thus, you should have your support invest that 2nd CV as a spotting tool for your blue or their blue.

3) Force a teamfight and try to win. If you win, you steal their blue and your team is now on a gold surplus.

The most important is 1/2, where CV+wards come into play.

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz

Your team just needs to do a better job of defending. Use clairvoyance to scare them off.

Even in just the few games I've played recently, I'm always amazed at the power of a scarevoyance

People seem to just freak out if they notice the eye watching them, it's a great psychological tool... at least at the level I'm playing at.

[xferrarix]

It scares pretty much anyone imo, even if the elo is low or high. Especially when you drop a CV right on their blue/red and they're around that area

[Anaru]

Originally Posted by xferrarix

It scares pretty much anyone imo, even if the elo is low or high. Especially when you drop a CV right on their blue/red and they're around that area

And then you force a teamfight. It happens all the time in pro games!

[stargroup100]

Originally Posted by xferrarix

It scares pretty much anyone imo, even if the elo is low or high. Especially when you drop a CV right on their blue/red and they're around that area

not really

if your team is situated well, then the enemy team will not engage because they would lose that fight, and so they would have to back off

cv is more used for collecting intel on the opponent, not checking to see if there is anyone to initiate on regardless of situation

[darklordsarumon9]

Finally got my groove back, and all it took was a bunch of alcohol.
Had competent teams, smart plays and HOLY SHIT EVEN MY LANE PARTNER BOUGHT A WARD OR TWO.

So as I was chuggin' the brew yesterday I ended up winning quite a few games. Guess I just gotta get smashed to win.

SKILLS FOR KILLS AGENT

[Anaru]

Originally Posted by darklordsarumon9

Finally got my groove back, and all it took was a bunch of alcohol.
Had competent teams, smart plays and HOLY SHIT EVEN MY LANE PARTNER BOUGHT A WARD OR TWO.

So as I was chuggin' the brew yesterday I ended up winning quite a few games. Guess I just gotta get smashed to win.

SKILLS FOR KILLS AGENT

next up: drunk solo queue

[bluguerrilla]

Just played a game where 3 went bot and fed the entire game. I was left as MF vs akali/alistar top and I won my lane.

HOWEVER, we lost terribly because their graves had an ie, zeal, wriggles, boots by 20 minutes.

AND THEN they wouldn't surrender.

I don't know why I play anything other than skyrim at night.

[_Zenith_]

Anaru, can I play with you, you seem SO DAMN GOOD at LoL xD

[darklordsarumon9]

Originally Posted by bluguerrilla

Just played a game where 3 went bot and fed the entire game. I was left as MF vs akali/alistar top and I won my lane.

HOWEVER, we lost terribly because their graves had an ie, zeal, wriggles, boots by 20 minutes.

AND THEN they wouldn't surrender.

I don't know why I play anything other than skyrim at night.

I hate it when you're just SO far behind and your team won't surrender. Had a game the other day where their Volibear was just fed to ****ing hell and back. Went on to be a 50 min game. I was like come the **** on guy the bear is SO FED. He'd just rip us apart.

[stargroup]

Originally Posted by bluguerrilla

Just played a game where 3 went bot and fed the entire game. I was left as MF vs akali/alistar top and I won my lane.

HOWEVER, we lost terribly because their graves had an ie, zeal, wriggles, boots by 20 minutes.

AND THEN they wouldn't surrender.

I don't know why I play anything other than skyrim at night.

Uh, that's pretty extreme. I have not heard of a case like this in a long ass time. Am I just lucky or what?

[phe0nixblade]

man that CV at the beginning of the match? i did that shit before anyone else, PHREAK STOLE FROM ME D:
ad nidalee? i did that shit because i hated AP nidalee
I'M AN INNOVATOR DAMMIT

[darklordsarumon9]

M5 - Jungle Mundo?

OH **** HERE WE GO

[stargroup100]

the very hour the patch notes for the new summoner spells came out, I went straight to theorycrafting the heal summoner because I had this feeling that not only was it going to be viable but super strong

I immediately jumped into games as support going heal/flash with armor pen reds and I thought I was an innovator but nooooo plenty of people have apparently been doing that before ****

[xferrarix]

Originally Posted by stargroup100

not really

if your team is situated well, then the enemy team will not engage because they would lose that fight, and so they would have to back off

cv is more used for collecting intel on the opponent, not checking to see if there is anyone to initiate on regardless of situation

I see, I guess it's hard to get your team to all defend you in jungle

Then again why Fiddle jungle in normals/ranked when there's so many more viable options that don't get countered as hard ie GP, Lee, Mao, Riven etc

[pikakirby123]

Originally Posted by xferrarix

I see, I guess it's hard to get your team to all defend you in jungle

Then again why Fiddle jungle in normals/ranked when there's so many more viable options that don't get countered as hard ie GP, Lee, Mao, Riven etc

The way I see it, Fiddle ganks post Level 6 are very strong because of his blink. Shaco is viewed as one of the strongest gankers because of his Deceive, and Fiddle's ult is basically a powered up deceive with slightly longer range if I recall correctly. Combined with your fear, silence, and ridiculously long range Drain it's very easy to score kills if your lanes know where wards have been placed.