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I played with a Trinity Force on Riven the other night. Jesus that 150% autoattack add for her is ridiculous, your broken wing combo ends up doing around 600 to 800 in a burst
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only in dominion can rammus be expected to carry
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For any karthus players, what item builds have you noticed to work?

So far I've been starting with sapphire+2 hp pots, then basic boots/tear of the goddess, CDR boots, archangel, deathcap, then lichbane or zhonya's depending on enemy team, and then deathfire grasp if I ever get there. Does that seem decent? Also, any good tips? I'm liking him as a character so far, but not sure how he plays against more experienced players (only lv16 atm)
Sorc boots, void staff, 3x archangel, deathcap. teleport/revive for summoners.
Watch phant0mlord's stream, he's the #1 karthus atm.
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Can you post a link to phant0mlord's Karthus? I want to watch his livestream and see how he plays him
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http://www.own3d.tv/live/142545/AL_PhantomL0rd

That's his stream, but he doesn't stream all that often.


http://www.youtube.com/user/JVPhantomLord
His youtube, but he only has 3 vids of 1 match, and its back from when he was in v8.
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LoL reminds me of poker in a lot of ways.

It's a game of luck in that you can't control all of the variables in the game. Some of them are random and out of your hands. In the case of LoL, it's primarily the people you're matched with.

However, it's a game of skill in that you can control all of the actions you decide to make. As such, your actions should revolve around maximizing your chances of winning based on the information you have.

Even if you play optimally, you won't always win. There's nothing you can do about that. But if you're maximizing your chances of winning and playing optimally, you'll win more than you lose, and your ELO will slowly climb.

The reason being, if you play a statistically large enough sample of games, and the matchmaking system is doing it's job, the average strength of your opponents and your team mates relative to your ELO will be the same. That is, luck becomes a relatively insignificant factor, and the only remaining variable influencing your win ratio is your personal performance.

If you sit around and chalk it all up to luck, you won't get anywhere. Sure, variance happens. I lost 10 dominion games in a row a few weeks ago, mostly due to bad luck. I'm like, 65-40 now though. Bullshit that was happening to me constantly started happening to the other team, and things evened out.
I like the poker analogy

unfortunately, dominion balance is so bad that if it ever got a ranked mode, THAT would real elo hell

no matter how well you play, there are so many champions that are god-mode on that map and some strategies are just really really stupid to deal with no matter what

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I found this fun little calculator recently: http://lolcave.com/ec/

Seems reasonable, assuming you've played a good chunk of games and your ELO isn't unusually high or unusually low.

1580 SR and 1590 Dom, but I really need to play some more SR. Studying for finals right now is killing me though and hour long games are just...unacceptable >_>
too bad this isn't even remotely accurate lol

only after playing about 1000 games by yourself will the difference between calculated elo and estimated elo most likely be less than 100

and if even a substantial fraction of your games are games where you queue with friends, this number could be completely wrong, easily at least a difference of 300 points

normal queue elo is useless to calculate anyways, because you don't know how many people play these normal games, so you can't gauge your elo relative to others. for all we know, if there are a million players with ratings, top elo could be around 2700, so the distribution would be totally different

so normal elo isn't even worth figuring out. unless you're playing ranked, don't even worry about rating
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Old 12-10-2011, 12:02 PM   #1709
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So lately I do believe getting out of Elo hell is possible

I was in around 800 (don't ask me how) and I kept duo queueing. Had a few straight wins now, and I'm at 1002 now. I want to get back at a elo above 1200 before I even attempt to solo queue again
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it's always possible
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Congratulations to Chauster on MVP for League of Legends WCG 2011! You go get em.
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unfortunately, dominion balance is so bad that if it ever got a ranked mode, THAT would real elo hell

no matter how well you play, there are so many champions that are god-mode on that map and some strategies are just really really stupid to deal with no matter what
Strategies such as what?


And the balance isn't nearly where SR is obviously, but if anything it feels better than TT is already. Lee Sin is so broken on TT that I don't even even words to describe his tier.

I feel like Rammus, Karthus and Yorick (Underrated right now. If there's any truth to dominion, it's that winning bottom wins games. There is no equal in how hard it gimps the enemy team) are top picks on dominion right now, respectively, but there are ways to deal with all of them. The same goes to other very strong picks (e.g. Wukong, Sion, Pantheon, Heimer, Poppy, Shaco, Kassadin)

Is that really any worse than say, Shaco/Graves/Sion right now in SoloQ? Or Kassadin in tournament draft.

How often are they not insta picked if they aren't banned?
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i played a dominion game as rammus with xin and heimer on my team (i forget the other two)
during champ select someone said "does anyone else feel like a horrible person?"
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Tried Soraka for the first time in pvp. Only used her a couple times ever. Wanted a change of flavor since jungling is so bad right now. She seems pretty powerful. I like her. But unless you're playing with friends it just isn't fun. Our team was getting destroyed all over the map. Every time anyone died, all I heard was REPORT SORAKA. Even when I used my Wish to help them out, it was still my fault because I wasn't somehow keeping them alive while I was laning across the map. We dominated all the team-fights though because they kept focusing me while our trynd went to town on them. Our shaco was dc'd for the first few minutes and he was awful. Our Nidalee was thoroughly useless. They were the main offenders in blaming me for their deaths.

Oh and laning against eve and teemo isn't fun. They caught me a couple times early game. But I was pretty much even until late game when they started destroying me at the beginning of each team fight. I always got my wish and reverie off before I died so I'm fine with dying.
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support players are always underappreciated

that's just the way it is
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:14 PM   #1717
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i think the major issue is most players expect support players to support flawlessly without actually understanding how support characters work

or the fact that flawless support is 20% the support player and 80% the rest of the team
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My Volibear thought it was acceptable to turret dive three people by himself because he figured good support would keep him alive. And I don't mind being under-appreciated. It's more being blamed for everything that I don't like.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:45 AM   #1719
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I'm almost out of elo hell.
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warmog's nerf is a bit stupid
don't people know the REAL problem with atmog is atmas since it lets you build two stats for the price of one
whatever, it's ****ing riot, they think force of nature has movement speed lol
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