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"how else can I lynch dbp"... "this was the best thing I could do"... "how else can I lynch dbp" is a failure on every player who dismisses/ignores any other player in this server. That needs to change
No, thats bullshit

He read DBP scum for no reason other then feels scum and couldnt make a solid case that wasn't "I just feel it guys listen to me" and then instead of building worlds with partners or tackling different aspects of the game he fakeclaimed putting the remaining town PR at risk.

Thats not other people playing badly and you know it.
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As a new player, I meant what I said in the thread. This is a solid community but it’s not overly welcoming to new players. There’s a lot of strong players who, while good at the game, just try to take control and bully everyone else who make unconfident or inexperienced reads, or people that aren’t always as active as we’d like them to be.

I think the community as a whole needs to try and be more accepting of the different ways people try to play, and not be so quick to dismiss people. Engage even if you think something isn’t a threat or ‘not worth engaging with’
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@meta

As a new player, I meant what I said in the thread. This is a solid community but it’s not overly welcoming to new players. There’s a lot of strong players who, while good at the game, just try to take control and bully everyone else who make unconfident or inexperienced reads, or people that aren’t always as active as we’d like them to be.

I think the community as a whole needs to try and be more accepting of the different ways people try to play, and not be so quick to dismiss people. Engage even if you think something isn’t a threat or ‘not worth engaging with’
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I really didn't though, I tunneled lar all day because it's funny and xiz said fuck it i'mma make him useful at the least

I do have to say I think people really need to look into xiz less from a "town / antitown" perspective and read his motives, it makes him way easier to read imho. I only wish this read worked on lar tbh because I pick on him because it's fun but because I have no clue how to read him because his play is super interchangeable like Charu rofl

I'm not gonna claim I knew what he was doing, but you'd have a hard time selling me his intentions weren't good because even c h a o s x i
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And this is what I mean (:
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Aww, I was hoping I'd get one last chance to try to weasel my way out of the lynch.

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If it's any consolation, here's the thing I would have shared if you'd have won:

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He read DBP scum for no reason other then feels scum and couldnt make a solid case that wasn't "I just feel it guys listen to me" and then instead of building worlds with partners or tackling different aspects of the game he fakeclaimed putting the remaining town PR at risk.



Thats not other people playing badly and you know it.
I'm with you. I don't excuse his bad play. I specifically said it was bad play in that same post. I also said that everyone needs to communicate why they think what they think and not just assume ppl should follow them.

But at the same time, the fact that he felt that doing that was the only way he was gonna be heard is a symptom of what I'm talking about, whether you wanna deny it or not.
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The motorcycle rider was also town this game
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BTW reading ulle in deadchat being particularly judgy of how I play in her slot was funny, but also something I now never wanna do again

She seems like she'd remind me of it forever if I ever fuck up
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BTW reading ulle in deadchat being particularly judgy of how I play in her slot was funny, but also something I now never wanna do again

She seems like she'd remind me of it forever if I ever fuck up

Oh, pish-posh. I had no business trying to ghost-backseat-drive the slot anyway since I replaced out...it just makes me instinctively cringe whenever I see hints of "town has been rightfully suspicious of LWS all game and/or makes the right call initially but lets paranoia get the best of them and lose it" since I've mostly been in the losing side of that scenario XD

But I understand why that happens – in F3s particularly – and would never hold grudges against anyone for that!
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@meta

As a new player, I meant what I said in the thread. This is a solid community but it’s not overly welcoming to new players. There’s a lot of strong players who, while good at the game, just try to take control and bully everyone else who make unconfident or inexperienced reads, or people that aren’t always as active as we’d like them to be.

I think the community as a whole needs to try and be more accepting of the different ways people try to play, and not be so quick to dismiss people. Engage even if you think something isn’t a threat or ‘not worth engaging with’
yeah we sure do have that problem here. but as I said in the game, scream into the void man. we listen more than you think even though it's not enough for sure
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Oh, pish-posh. I had no business trying to ghost-backseat-drive the slot anyway since I replaced out...it just makes me instinctively cringe whenever I see hints of "town has been rightfully suspicious of LWS all game and/or makes the right call initially but lets paranoia get the best of them and lose it" since I've mostly been in the losing side of that scenario XD

But I understand why that happens – in F3s particularly – and would never hold grudges against anyone for that!
Oh pish-posh, that's a load of half-baked pollycock claptrap served with a side of gobbledygook and you know it.
Reading back is important in F3, and paranoia is controllable, but I appreciate you not holding grudges after all
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I didnt read anything just here to say: setups where vt fakeclaims are viable are pretty rad. ok bye
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But at the same time, the fact that he felt that doing that was the only way he was gonna be heard is a symptom of what I'm talking about, whether you wanna deny it or not.
Symptom of what? Him being fustrated by his limitations? That's not the rest of town's fault and whatever silly little taglines you want to add to the end of your posts doesn't suddenly make it different. People listen when you can build a case and do work and they don't if your wasting your time.

You are, in effect, saying that town should of blindly listen to someone who couldnt build a case because he <might> be right for the wrong reasons. No.

"But no one will listen to my gut unless I put the game in jeopardy" shouldn't be anyone's mantra.

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Old 05-9-2020, 01:47 AM   #36
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BRO DBP WASN'T EVEN HERE
HE STILL HASN'T ANSWERED HALF MY QUESTIONS
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STOP DEFENDING THIS PILE OF SLUSH AND HELP ME MAKE IT DO STUFF
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I think some basic/re-learning games would be good

FFR is one of the best mafia communities, but because of that, it seems like a lot of players have zoomed past fundamentals and more towards "endgame", if that makes sense
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I think you guys are being overly hard on mikey btw the play wasn't that bad and in any world where mikey was not roleblocked would've been amazing, he made a risky gamble on someone being wolf, backed himself and was correct on his read. If he is not roleblocked he forces through a difficult lynch on scum, because he was certain on a read and backed himself.

Having to resort to actions such as faking cop feels to me like it is more our fault as fellow town players for not finding mikey who had a correct read he was 100 percent on. We misread a 1v1 at the end of the day, he was the guy who caught scum he was 100 percent on and willing to gamble the game, had we listened to him then we lynch scum, but we didn't.

Mikey takes away a lesson on how to push correctly sure, because he did fuck the pooch a bit (though not nearly as bad as others think). But everyone else should take away a lesson on listening to what other players say. I do stand by what I said in game, albeit I was a bit more aggressive there. Mafia is a team game and someone else's read can be as effective or even moreso than your own. FFR is a good site sure, so listen to other good players around you and trust their skill, especially when they are more sure than you are on a read. Mafia is a team game after all.
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I think you guys are being overly hard on mikey btw the play wasn't that bad and in any world where mikey was not roleblocked would've been amazing, he made a risky gamble on someone being wolf, backed himself and was correct on his read. If he is not roleblocked he forces through a difficult lynch on scum, because he was certain on a read and backed himself.

Having to resort to actions such as faking cop feels to me like it is more our fault as fellow town players for not finding mikey who had a correct read he was 100 percent on. We misread a 1v1 at the end of the day, he was the guy who caught scum he was 100 percent on and willing to gamble the game, had we listened to him then we lynch scum, but we didn't.

Mikey takes away a lesson on how to push correctly sure, because he did fuck the pooch a bit (though not nearly as bad as others think). But everyone else should take away a lesson on listening to what other players say. I do stand by what I said in game, albeit I was a bit more aggressive there. Mafia is a team game and someone else's read can be as effective or even moreso than your own. FFR is a good site sure, so listen to other good players around you and trust their skill, especially when they are more sure than you are on a read. Mafia is a team game after all.
we never blocked mikey. we knew he was lying because I was the Mafia Godfather and we also knew the full setup.
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we never blocked mikey. we knew he was lying because I was the Mafia Godfather and we also knew the full setup.
No mml did, if he hadn't you would have gotten lynched
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