Ingame Song Information - Page 12

**jimerax** · 11-2-2006, 08:33 AM

added Tetris Remix to 4.

**Shashakiro** · 11-3-2006, 12:51 AM

Contra-Distinction is way under-rated. It should be in the 3 range somewhere IMO.

Agree with Tetris's placement.

**jimerax** · 11-4-2006, 10:31 AM

completely reordered intermediate range for accuracy.

**Shashakiro** · 11-6-2006, 03:16 PM

20031023...low 5, maaaaaaaaaybe high 4.5? not really sure.

Dragula219 · 11-6-2006, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shashakiro

20031023...low 5, maaaaaaaaaybe high 4.5? not really sure.

Woah dude....Maybe a High 4 - Low 4.5 IMO, it's much easier than CIA Rave and many other 4.5's

EDIT: Seriously, I'd put it at 4. You can't put it in the same difficulty as delirium...

**Tasselfoot** · 11-6-2006, 05:04 PM

it isn't that hard to FC... PAing it seems to be a tiny bit tricky. I'd put it equal to MoG.

**jimerax** · 11-7-2006, 06:49 AM

Yea true, basically simple patterns but a bit tricky for PA.

I'd put this above Tribal, a bit easier than low 5 songs like carrousel or dot death.
umm no way putting this on 4 for the speed/density.

p.s.
I'm thinking of adding new 1 to 99 difficulty rating on EVERY song.
According to this rating, for ex, Mario/Trip is 1, SZR is 24, CIA is 60, FOTB is 80, OMW is 95.
Does anyone like this idea?

**Shashakiro** · 11-7-2006, 11:27 AM

Nah, it gets a little too hard to gauge where things should go when you have 100 different possibilities...relative to each other is one thing, but 100 seperate ratings is a lot harder.

**windsurfer-sp** · 11-8-2006, 03:19 AM

The 1-99 idea sounds ok but I would use it as a beta along side the chardish scale.

**jimerax** · 11-8-2006, 10:18 AM

Yea it will be added as a sub scale since it's not complete yet, plus it's only for the detail information.
So we have those ratings.

- Chardish Scale (1-6, 6 grade)
- Advanced Chardish Scale (1.0-6.0, 11 grade) / Ingame Rating (Beginner-Guru, 11 grade)
- Detailed Scale (1-99, 99 grade)

**igotrhythm** · 11-13-2006, 12:38 PM

Maybe it's just that I suck at jumpstreams, but Sensorium isn't an 8-footer like the announcement on the homepage says it is...otherwise it'd be paddable. I'm thinking either 4.5 or 5 on the Chardish scale, leaning towards 5.

**Shashakiro** · 11-13-2006, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

Maybe it's just that I suck at jumpstreams, but Sensorium isn't an 8-footer like the announcement on the homepage says it is...otherwise it'd be paddable.

Max Forever is rated an 8 on this scale...this isn't the DDR/ITG scale.

I'm thinking low-mid 4.5, not really sure though.

LoneDancer · 11-13-2006, 12:56 PM

What I like about the 1-99 scale is that instead of just allowing a vague comparison (this song is harder than this one), it ups the detail of the comparison (this song is *this* much harder than this one).

**Tasselfoot** · 11-13-2006, 03:30 PM

i see as it being RIGHT at the top of the 4s. almost equal to max forever... for different reasons. definately easier than CIA or fantran. but harder or equi hard as Visions/Max Forever. I'd put it right at the top of the 4s... which is Very Difficult... which is exactly what I listed it as in the game.

go me.

**jimerax** · 11-13-2006, 05:34 PM

agreed with tass, it's right around MAX Forever.

I hope ingame rating will get better lol.

**Doug31** · 11-13-2006, 05:40 PM

Tass is the one that determines the ingame ratings? I thought it was whoever made the stepfile. I also think the new song is around max forever, but I'd put it right below max forever, because I think longer is, in a way, harder.

**Shashakiro** · 11-13-2006, 06:25 PM

Level admins determine ingame rating now.

A revamp of the ingame difficulties may happen sometime in the future.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-13-2006, 06:31 PM

yup. Shash and I can now easily change the ingame difficulties.

**jimerax** · 11-13-2006, 08:02 PM

cool.

After that will the songs be grouped by difficulty instead of the genre like spin it up?
The only problem now is Dance has way too many songs.

**windsurfer-sp** · 11-14-2006, 01:10 AM

No plz dont group songs by diffculty even if the advanced chardish scale is used. Song genres are good way to sort the songs.

I think that the way to combat the problem of to many songs in dance is the ability to self-sort the songs eg. artist, diffculty, song name, date added etc....

I was thinking of asking Tass if he would think about sorting out the songs some time into some logical order.

11-2-2006, 08:33 AM	#221
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 added Tetris Remix to 4.

11-4-2006, 10:31 AM	#223
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 completely reordered intermediate range for accuracy.

11-6-2006, 05:04 PM	#226
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 it isn't that hard to FC... PAing it seems to be a tiny bit tricky. I'd put it equal to MoG. __________________ RIP

11-7-2006, 06:49 AM	#227
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Yea true, basically simple patterns but a bit tricky for PA. I'd put this above Tribal, a bit easier than low 5 songs like carrousel or dot death. umm no way putting this on 4 for the speed/density. p.s. I'm thinking of adding new 1 to 99 difficulty rating on EVERY song. According to this rating, for ex, Mario/Trip is 1, SZR is 24, CIA is 60, FOTB is 80, OMW is 95. Does anyone like this idea? Last edited by jimerax; 11-7-2006 at 11:11 AM..

11-8-2006, 03:19 AM	#229
windsurfer-sp FFR Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Aussie (Oi Oi Oi) Age: 33 Posts: 1,974	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 The 1-99 idea sounds ok but I would use it as a beta along side the chardish scale. __________________ Orbb fan club. White text society.

11-8-2006, 10:18 AM	#230
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Yea it will be added as a sub scale since it's not complete yet, plus it's only for the detail information. So we have those ratings. - Chardish Scale (1-6, 6 grade) - Advanced Chardish Scale (1.0-6.0, 11 grade) / Ingame Rating (Beginner-Guru, 11 grade) - Detailed Scale (1-99, 99 grade)

11-13-2006, 12:38 PM	#231
igotrhythm Fractals! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Meesheegan Age: 38 Posts: 6,534	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Maybe it's just that I suck at jumpstreams, but Sensorium isn't an 8-footer like the announcement on the homepage says it is...otherwise it'd be paddable. I'm thinking either 4.5 or 5 on the Chardish scale, leaning towards 5.

11-13-2006, 12:56 PM	#233
LoneDancer FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 62	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 What I like about the 1-99 scale is that instead of just allowing a vague comparison (this song is harder than this one), it ups the detail of the comparison (this song is this much harder than this one). __________________

11-13-2006, 03:30 PM	#234
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 i see as it being RIGHT at the top of the 4s. almost equal to max forever... for different reasons. definately easier than CIA or fantran. but harder or equi hard as Visions/Max Forever. I'd put it right at the top of the 4s... which is Very Difficult... which is exactly what I listed it as in the game. go me. __________________ RIP

11-13-2006, 05:34 PM	#235
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 agreed with tass, it's right around MAX Forever. I hope ingame rating will get better lol.

11-13-2006, 05:40 PM	#236
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Tass is the one that determines the ingame ratings? I thought it was whoever made the stepfile. I also think the new song is around max forever, but I'd put it right below max forever, because I think longer is, in a way, harder. __________________

11-13-2006, 06:31 PM	#238
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 yup. Shash and I can now easily change the ingame difficulties. __________________ RIP

11-13-2006, 08:02 PM	#239
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 cool. After that will the songs be grouped by difficulty instead of the genre like spin it up? The only problem now is Dance has way too many songs.

11-14-2006, 01:10 AM	#240
windsurfer-sp FFR Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Aussie (Oi Oi Oi) Age: 33 Posts: 1,974	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 No plz dont group songs by diffculty even if the advanced chardish scale is used. Song genres are good way to sort the songs. I think that the way to combat the problem of to many songs in dance is the ability to self-sort the songs eg. artist, diffculty, song name, date added etc.... I was thinking of asking Tass if he would think about sorting out the songs some time into some logical order. __________________ Orbb fan club. White text society.

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