Old 12-28-2007, 01:24 PM   #181
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I'm aware that you're a decent player dreamscanner. What I was saying was that if the point system doesn't differentiate a mashed fc and a good pa fc, then it's meaningless.
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I'm aware that you're a decent player dreamscanner. What I was saying was that if the point system doesn't differentiate a mashed fc and a good pa fc, then it's meaningless.
You seriously think I would award points to a run with 800 boos? I'm not that stupid. It's rated by my view. The list is entirely my point of view, balanced with the others on the list.

Dude1: 5.50 Points (FCd silence 66.3.0.75)
Dude2: 2.75 Points (Comboed a difficult section of a hard song, not FC and decent PA.)

Understand?
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Do AAA's count for anything on any of your lists ever?

EDIT-Ha Electro Rush X8 finally makes its appearance on FFR. Took long enough. Now I can get it off my iPod.
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Another thing that people will comment on. It's depending on what songs you can FC / PA. I average them out with everyone else on the list. It's pointless I know.

In fact I only started doing this again because about 10 people were constantly messaging / PMing me about it.


Explain eeet.


Pwease?

How many points and for what songs?

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There are no set points.

If someone with awesome PA gets like 2.0.20.10 on a song and someone else gets 40.3.0.3 on the same song.
Who do you think deserves higher placement?
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If someone with awesome PA gets like 2.0.20.10 on a song and someone else gets 40.3.0.3 on the same song.
Who do you think deserves higher placement?

Me.

Because I am super special awesome with sauce on top.

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If someone with awesome PA gets like 2.0.20.10 on a song and someone else gets 40.3.0.3 on the same song.
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I think its relevant to the song played. You still didn't answer about AAAs(c'mon they should count for something) Personally though the higher PA would be better IMO

EDIT- I just noticed there are 2 Euphorias on FFR now. Had to post it.
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The best reason for anything. :P lol


Maybe if Zageron made public everybody's accomplishments on the top 5 lists, everyone would kind of get an idea of how the points system works, then we could all convene and agree on some sort of system? It'd be a lot better than bitching about how Zageron makes lists that he can be on top of.

Mine was a near-FC of TGWP Part 4. Replay here. Worth 2.25 points.
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Go for the AAA like I am skish. Otaku ^.^
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lol, maybe not quite yet. I'm not nearly as good as you... I have to FC it first. I just suck at those damn streams... if only I were as good as streams as I were jumping like that...
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Wait I had a thought. If you wanna test peoples skills, why not create a stepfile for something that is long and can test stamina as well as sightreading on things you are testing, because I could practice one song forever and get good at it but not be good at the things you are testing. For instance, I can AAA Etude to a Dragon but it's not all too easy for me to get a good combo on Silence. Those two things combined don't show very well a clear indicator of my skill at jumpstreams.
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Interesting idea... I was also thinking if we came up with several different "milestones" so to speak, then rank everybody by either highest milestone achieved or most achieved. To avoid everybody being on the same levels, there should probably be at the very least 10+ different achievements. For example, some of them could be:
FC ____ with good PA
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Get a XXX+ combo on ____
Combo a certain section of ____ song
Achieve 100:1 PA or (XX: 1) PA on ____ song.

etc... things like that.
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That's an interesting idea, like say....have points ranked like tier points in a way like:
FC-(random songs I could think of)
Silence(6)
Choprite(5)
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Szamar Madar(3)
CIA Rave(2)
Brightone(1)

Etc. and give points based that way off of what level of song you can FC/AAA/PA...
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And maybe also divide it up into categories, then add up to a total, kind of like this:
Jumps
World of Dreams (1)
Forza Azzuri (2)
TGWP (3)
Faces (4)
etc... don't know of any songs with harder jumps off the top of my head... well, a few, but the streams are way harder than the jumps

Stream
Song 1
Song 2
etc....

Rolls
Song 1
Song 2
Song 3
etc...

Trills
Song 1
Song 2
Song 3
etc...

Jumpstream (Stream + Jumps)
Song 1
Song 2
Song 3
etc...

Total = Jumps + Streams + Rolls + Trills + Jumpstream

At the rate we're going, looks like I might have one point from each section lol... maybe soon to be 3 or 4 on jumps.

EDIT: Requirement for each song would be FC. Oh, and we could also have a PA section. Any song could go in there, you'd just have to AAA it or SDG it, depending on how we structure the list. Personally I think it should be SDGs, because after you get down to only 5 goods, it's exponentially harder with each good removed.

And maybe a section for Jacks too.

And maybe some of these sections need to be combined, lol.
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Psst Sympathizer/Love Cheat!/Dream of Scarlet should go in there somewhere.
Neat idea we have forming here, it'd be nice if we could like work to finalize it or something. A concrete points system based off of that would end a lot of disputes and maybe we could add a simfile(s) for sightreading points too.
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So... first off, how many difficulties for each section....? And where should we set the lowest and highest? IMO, lowest should still be high enough so that only the top people get at least one point, not the people with 10 000+ average rank. And highest should be high, but not so high that none of us have a chance of achieving it.

We could also start making a list of songs that fit best in each category (not worrying about difficulty yet):

Streams: I have no idea, other than obvious harder songs like Caprice and Silence. Which reminds me, Caprice is FGO, except that with a little more practice and getting better at mini-jacks, I might even FC it, but I'm nowhere close to Silence. Anyways...

Rolls: The immediate one that comes to mind is Coat Czech and Gaussian blur, although Gaussian blur is also stream-heavy, and after the beginning, there's like almost no rolls. So... maybe one of TGWP?

Trills: Definitely Max Forever... there's several that are on the tip of my tongue but I can't remember...

Jacks: AIM anthem as the very top one, maybe? Or is it too hard, or what? I have no idea because I'm not at that skill level yet. The only other one I can think of is Devotion and Desire.

Jumpstream: Hehe, lots of hard jumpstream songs, including silence. Is EHHS too hard to be the top one on the list or should Silence be the top, or what?

Yeah, I'm not a song expert... help?

EDIT: Forgot Prototype and {Blaze} for streams.
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So you're wanting to make the tier point system, but only for one-handers.

*sigh* This is never going to just go away is it.
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So you're wanting to make the tier point system, but only for one-handers.

*sigh* This is never going to just go away is it.
Hah I just suggested this because its fun and Zag can stop making threads/posts about the NEW way of classifying one handers. It'll all be good in the end.
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