TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Have yet to see Xel come back, still didn't like his content.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

I need to look into Tokzic's other pushes because i can't tell if these three items are us both having similar thoughts, or if this is him shadowing me to opportunistically start a wagon if it developed right.

Thanks for the post. I can definitely see what you mean about him having similar ideas to yours. It seems pretty subtle but it could be a strat I could see Tokzic using as a wolf to gain direction for good lynch candidates. The way he has presented his ideas seems pretty organic but of course there is no way to tell for sure

[XelNya]

Also, not sorry I slept in till almost 5PM my time

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

I need to look into Tokzic's other pushes because i can't tell if these three items are us both having similar thoughts, or if this is him shadowing me to opportunistically start a wagon if it developed right.

it's the first one, thanks for noticing

[DaBackpack]

the one thing I look for above all else is wishy-washiness and lack of commitments

MML's latest post reeks of it

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Thanks for the post. I can definitely see what you mean about him having similar ideas to yours. It seems pretty subtle but it could be a strat I could see Tokzic using as a wolf to gain direction for good lynch candidates. The way he has presented his ideas seems pretty organic but of course there is no way to tell for sure

this is the same kind of thing, you're positioning yourself to follow through with any outcome w/r/t tokzic but let me review the context

[tiloco217]

I'm about half way through my reads list but there is no chance I am going to be able to finish it before eod. Still have way too much packing to do and that needs to start like now. I'm going to post my reads list as far as it is and then leave for a while.

[DaBackpack]

I retract that last statement on raeko, I missed that he was directly answering her earlier quesiton about him

[tiloco217]

1) Hakulyte (Town): I liked his reactions to MML early in the game. They felt... almost robotic which is a bad thing normally but he clearly has the capability to get angry and implode which I would imagine he is a lot more likely to do as mafia. Being able to and wanting to control his emotion is a good thing in this situation. Then he had his interaction with blind which, as I've stated many times, was likely t/t. I do think that mafia Haku could have played it a similar way if Blind was town but I think there is no other way a town Haku would have reacted there and I already had him leaning town before then. Since then he's kept up his activity but hasn't had any really strong interactions. Now I did find it odd that he was saying that lynching in inactives is not preferable and should only be a last resort but then followed up with saying that active players are more likely to be town and he doesn't want to lynch them. Care to elaborate?

After typing Haku's I realize that I will not be able to get through all of my reads and give people time to react to them before eod so I'm going to have to trim some of the fat here. I can go more in depth with other reads if asked but I will go with quicker reads from here on

3) inDheart (Null/ want to call town): Been a hard one for me. Has a lot of content and has been generally around but he seems almost too nice? He's made the snarky comment every once in a while but hasn't been anything aggressive. Probs not looking at him today especially since I think he won't be around for eod

4) MML (Null): Looking through his iso I can't even find all that much that shows interaction with Haku. Sure it's here and there but I remembered it being a lot more prevalent than it actually is. He's still encouraged a good amount of discussion though and I appreciate his restraint when causing fights. Not an awful candidate for a potential lynch but not high on my list either.

5) Cold Kitten/ Celirra (Null): Nuff said

6) XelNya (slight maf): I figured he'd be the type to shitpost endlessly but there hasn't been much of that. He's had more content than I expected and early on which is completely different than I've seen in live and as others have mentioned it I assume it's against his meta here too. That being said the things he's brought up felt towny.

7) roundbox (slight town): Not a lot of posts but very content filled ones and I liked most of his commentary. Was very easy to see where he was coming from when multi-quoting.

8) Xiz (man I want you to be town but I ain't feelin it): You started off really strong which seemed weird but people assured me that it was normal. Then you did nothing. Then you came back with late reaction posts and they didn't seem real at all. I had a very hard time figuring out where your head was at while reading them. Going to need something better from you

[tiloco217]

going to vote [twgv] Xiz [/tgwv] for now

[tiloco217]

I don't know how that works apparently. I'll figure it out later

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

After typing Haku's I realize that I will not be able to get through all of my reads and give people time to react to them before eod so I'm going to have to trim some of the fat here. I can go more in depth with other reads if asked but I will go with quicker reads from here on

this line earned a bunch of town points holy shit

[mellonxcollie]

Guys tiloco is probably town

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

who would you vote then mml

Xel/Xiz/maybe Tiloco because of extreme meh and I don't feel like aiming for inactives.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

the one thing I look for above all else is wishy-washiness and lack of commitments

MML's latest post reeks of it

You know you've accused me of this before ("He says forgive me he's appeasing! There's no way Lar of all people would use sarcasm!") and when I corrected your ignorant ass you never responded.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

this is the same kind of thing, you're positioning yourself to follow through with any outcome w/r/t tokzic but let me review the context

He follows this up by taking it back

So basically DPB instead of being your Town Detective self you are talking out your ass without looking into it first.

OK gotcha.

[MixMasterLar]

So basically if I clear DPB for another day without my vote it's solely on the fact that he's here and not any of his logic

Because he's ignoring responses to his bullshit and not even thinking out his posts at this point.

[mellonxcollie]

Lar, hes hanging out with Eva right now. I think we can forgive not paying 111% attention to detail. Overall his points make sense and he is willing to admit if hes overlooked something.

[Celirra]

From page 15 to whenever I remember I still need to eat dinner again and take a break from analyzing to enjoy my delicious dinner that I spent an hour making because the onion was a jerk and didn't want to be cut right:

-Haku, I really really loathe this kind of posting in TWG:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

tl;dr: I am not a good player, but I am fairly easy to read. You can trust the reads on me, but you should definitely question "why" I'm getting these town reads.

So I'm kind of upset. All it does is make you suspicious in my eyes, but I don't have the magical meta benefits to realize you're just being a shit disturber. Not happy!!!!!

-Still wanting more from roundbox that's insightful and not just being upset with how people are posting.

Originally Posted by roundbox

so far I've liked Blind's entrance, we'll see how he shapes up

he's the only player that I really have "good" feedback for, everyone else is sitting in null at the moment

I hope you were winning a lot of dota games because your thinking didn't really go very much to this post

-I'm gonna just... not comment on Haku because it'll just make me confused and it'll make an animated ? appear above my face as I do a cute confused looking smile.

-I SAID I WASN'T GOING TO COMMENT BUT

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

MML, I am a wolf. You have solved me. Please just vote me and move on with the rest of the game. Let's stop a moment and contemplate your victory.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Like
MML didn't even say much to warrant this kind of thing
And like
...
ok haku

-Also this is where that MML reads list comment should've gone, oops! silly me

-I think this post is a bit uh... overkill for what MML did

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Tbh tunneling and faking anger at one person is a wolf strat. I've employed it enough to recognize it when I see it. This is too much even for you mml

Go drink some water dude.

and given there weren't many Freezin posts before this, it kind of seems like a way to stay relevant and to not appear as someone sitting on the outsides, because it is a somewhat fair stance to take. But keep in mind... Haku was pretty frustrating
~~~(I ADDED THIS IN LATER THROUGH THE MAGIC OF NOTEPAD!)~~~

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

I ANSWERED TILOCO ABOUT TOKZIC YOU FUCKING BABOON

See, even blind got mad at Haku!

-I'm guilty of it too, I know, but

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

town
Dbp
Me
Maybe town
Tox
Manti
Woof feeling
Mmm
Mellon
Null
Everyone else

Why is everyone so quick to hop on the Mellon wagon just due to low posts and such? I know I'm guilty of it too at times, but... well, I think there's others who are guilty of it too until this point and it's weird to single her out.

-I'M GONNA IGNORE HAKU BEING DIFFICULT AND MENTION THAT

Originally Posted by tiloco217

I finished my presentation in like 10 minutes and then got sucked into finishing 13 reasons and now I have no idea what I wanted to talk about. It'll come back to me. Haku and Blind fighting over stupid shit is cute

TILOCO IS A CUTIE AND SEEMS GENUINE
FOR NOW


I got to page 20 then realized this is a lot of work and most of this is just me being frustrated, I hope you guys would forgive me for dropping this style; I'll give a reads list in a bit though once I have a more insightful state of mind (and once I eat my dinner which is a bit chilly now).

Haku pls stop frustrating me, I'm confident you're town but I'm still irked!!!

[the sun fan]

votecount:
lightknight (1)- inDheart
Lar (2)- blind, DBP
soundwave (1)- Manti
mellon (1)- FreezinIce
Freezin (1)- Xiz
DBP (1)- Tokzic
unvote (4)- Celirra, Haku, Xel, Lar

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

So basically if I clear DPB for another day without my vote it's solely on the fact that he's here and not any of his logic

Because he's ignoring responses to his bullshit and not even thinking out his posts at this point.

funny that's why you're clearing him, that's the reason i'm voting for him

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

this is completely fucking arbitrary

is it though :thinking:

brb compiling a list of people this applies to for potential post-game glory

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

So basically if I clear DPB for another day without my vote it's solely on the fact that he's here and not any of his logic

Because he's ignoring responses to his bullshit and not even thinking out his posts at this point.

when do I ever think out my posts