Old 05-18-2017, 08:06 AM   #361
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:25 AM   #362
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Add break and wave in again. Or at least let me know what I'm doing wrong because I've added the options into fallback/regular theme and in the language section but the options aren't showing up and I'm not sure what I'm missing
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:50 AM   #363
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the simple solution is to put the options group they're in back into the line options in the metrics file

i dont know what either of those mods do so i dont know what group they'd be under
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you know not only is there extensive documentation in the release change logs on the github on exactly those subjects but those subjects have also been extensively discussed in this thread

i can do a lot of things but i can't read for you

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as for presentation of documentation gonna be honest i dont really give a fuck and i dont really care about anyone that does either and i've never tried to hide that stance
Do you think any other Etterna users would be interested in helping with the presentation of the documentation? Compiling the major changes listed in the release logs into a concise manner would be beneficial for other users who not only use Etterna, but also want to get started using it.

Documentation is important in the long run for everyone, and if you're not concerned about presenting it then someone else here would probably be up for taking that task.
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:01 AM   #365
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i dont doubt there's interest and i've heard some whispers from people about helping out with that but nothing has been concretely finished

tbh i could write a cumulative changelog in a few hours but i'd honestly rather start and quit out of 5 awful movies in that amount of time

e: i also refuse to treat this as a second job and take on the position of a project manager and spend all day chasing down volunteers to get them to do finish the contributions they said they would
i'm just going to code what i want to see and if it takes longer or is rougher because i dont get much help then so be it, people can use their brains and make a conscious decision whether or not to play what i offer them
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:34 AM   #366
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the simple solution is to put the options group they're in back into the line options in the metrics file

i dont know what either of those mods do so i dont know what group they'd be under
They're visual modifiers but I already that though but still no go. I'll double-check to make sure though I guess
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:01 AM   #367
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you dont need to change anything with language etc because those elements were never removed, it was only removed from the player options display in metrics

paste this https://pastebin.com/CFG9Pz2v

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Old 05-18-2017, 10:32 AM   #368
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Silly question here but are you planning to implement those funky modifiers like drunk, boomerang and stuff anywhere down the line? I think those would be fun to have when you're bored and wanna be all "eh... Let's see what happens" on an easier song
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you dont need to change anything with language etc because those elements were never removed, it was only removed from the player options display in metrics

paste this https://pastebin.com/CFG9Pz2v

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oh that's new. this fixed it, thanks
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Silly question here but are you planning to implement those funky modifiers like drunk, boomerang and stuff anywhere down the line? I think those would be fun to have when you're bored and wanna be all "eh... Let's see what happens" on an easier song
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Silly question here but are you planning to implement those funky modifiers like drunk, boomerang and stuff anywhere down the line? I think those would be fun to have when you're bored and wanna be all "eh... Let's see what happens" on an easier song
as with break and wave they're all still there they're just not being displayed because their frequency of use didn't justify taking up 80% of the entire player options page and making the process of changing important options both needlessly onerous and needlessly odious

but since rates can be changed via music select now and afaik most people dont even use the player options menu except to turn on mirror i can put all that junk back

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not in the working branch on the repo

after I saw some comments on the vanilla repo about attacks being only somewhat functional with the implementation being lacking i ripped all of it out
afaik nobody actually uses attacks they use lua to modify playfields instead because it's, as I suppose was evident the entire time, more reliable/functional and does the exact same thing only better
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after I saw some comments on the vanilla repo about attacks being only somewhat functional with the implementation being lacking i ripped all of it out
afaik nobody actually uses attacks they use lua to modify playfields instead because it's, as I suppose was evident the entire time, more reliable/functional and does the exact same thing only better
aye that's essentially what i was talking about, the lua scripting aspect of it.

also, tbh if you wanted to use mods like drunk or dizzy or w/e, you're much better off just using 5.1 (UPS stuff) or oitg or other things, not etterna
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But then we won't be able to see Etienne do something like his St. Scarhand run at AGDQ again since he'll most likely be using Etterna from now on.

To stay on topic, will controller support be removed? I know almost everything related to pads will be/has been removed but what about controllers like that four button one that Staiain uses?
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But then we won't be able to see Etienne do something like his St. Scarhand run at AGDQ again since he'll most likely be using Etterna from now on.
you can still run lua scripts in fg changes to do whatever.
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But then we won't be able to see Etienne do something like his St. Scarhand run at AGDQ again since he'll most likely be using Etterna from now on.

To stay on topic, will controller support be removed? I know almost everything related to pads will be/has been removed but what about controllers like that four button one that Staiain uses?
no as i said visual modifiers haven't been touched in any way outside of being unlisted at player options which i can relist within 2 minutes, which i'm willing to do given that the player options page is no longer used that often

i see no reason for me to affect changes to any pages pertaining to controller support/drivers
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i havent touched them and i dont plan to but gonna be honest they're already pretty broken by any reasonable definition of the word
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Hey Mina another silly question... Etterna project is online compatible yes? If so what's the server name most people use?
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why does not make a way to show what keys you're using during the play?
i saw some stepmania videos having that function available.

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