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Old 08-23-2018, 03:29 PM   #1
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Default can opinions be true or false? what is an opinion exactly?

people say "that's just your opinion" like this means a person's statement is less true. but, how much less true does this really make a statement? many true things seem to be opinions; put differently, many medical opinions, judicial opinions, social opinions and so on seem to be beliefs that can be looked at on a scale of true/false. in other words, saying something is "just an opinion" doesn't seem to be saying much about it.

my take on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-EVeX70pA
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Old 08-23-2018, 04:19 PM   #2
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Default Re: can opinions be true or false? what is an opinion exactly?

Stopped at 5:50.

I don't like this thread as much as the others you've made (fact).

You do not properly define quite a few words you use (fact).
For example, you use "opinion" a bunch, but with different meanings when you talk about how people misuse the term or when used in different contexts. Makes it hard to follow and seems like you're derailling a lot from your initial question (opinion).

I agree with the part on truth threshold when debating if one's sensorial experience is really what they perceived (optical illusions for example lead to such debates).

I also believe you should start from actual accepted definitions of words instead of just asking for them, and then debating those.
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Old 08-23-2018, 04:43 PM   #3
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Default Re: can opinions be true or false? what is an opinion exactly?

All opinions are false to the transcendentalist. All opinions are true to the guru. They are true and false to the alchemist. The villager takes opinions with a grain of salt.
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Old 08-23-2018, 05:32 PM   #4
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Default Re: can opinions be true or false? what is an opinion exactly?

An opinion is a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. So an opinion can be true in part or full and same for false. It's all about how you perceive something and decide what you think about it.
Example: I like stepmania, it's a good game.

Some would agree or disagree with such a statement, people who disagree might have a perception about the game that makes it a bad game. Me stating that it's a good game is a statement that holds value as something that can be quantified true or false, but I've not provided sufficient information on why it is good.

This kind of opinion can be quantified a true and false statement, but they're not wrong because it will mostly be opinion based.
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Old 08-23-2018, 11:42 PM   #5
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Default Re: can opinions be true or false? what is an opinion exactly?

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people say "that's just your opinion" like this means a person's statement is less true. but, how much less true does this really make a statement? many true things seem to be opinions; put differently, many medical opinions, judicial opinions, social opinions and so on seem to be beliefs that can be looked at on a scale of true/false. in other words, saying something is "just an opinion" doesn't seem to be saying much about it.

my take on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-EVeX70pA
"That's just your opinion" means nothing. People say this when they are met with someone asserting something like it's fact. They have no particular argument against it, but it goes against their presupposed notions so they don't feel like it could be true. If you're faced with someone that says "that's just your opinion," then either they're not worth your time, or you need to explain the train of reason that led you to that assertion.

It's not necessarily that they're distinguishing between fact vs opinion, but rather that what you perceive is a fact does not line up with their world view.

I don't think you really need to dive into epistemology over someone saying this I guess?
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