A Discussion thread for difficulties of FFR ingame songs

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by Anaru

The song (For FFR) is relatively easy except the hard part at the end. And even then, the ending isn't very fast. Skeletor is an 11 because the roll part is faster, and the rest of the song is faster than VC songs in general.

My point exactly. At least you can jumptrill AAA Skeletor because it's fast enough. If you tried to straight jumptrill For FFR's ending you would NOT AAA, because it's too slow and it's full of weird frame gaps that prevent a jumptrill from being successful. Instead you need to do some weird jumptrill to single arrow transitional shit and then somehow nail the ending roll that is pretty offbeat just like the song in its entirety.

Originally Posted by Anaru

For FFR is a solid 10 because of its other parts that are not as hard (I would even say the song is a 9 or less without the ending.)

Mind you, this file was created back when enormous difficulty boosts were legal. I think the file without the wall would be hard enough to constitute a low 10, and then that ending is harder than the rest of the file by like 4 times.

[jimerax]

Difficulties of some songs were changed, carry on discussions.

[Elite Ninja]

Originally Posted by jimerax

Difficulties of some songs were changed, carry on discussions.

Is there a place where you log the difficulty changes? Would be nice to know what songs were changed to what difficulty.

[00Razor00]

Read first post.

[Anaru]

Whoaaa do i smile is a 13 now. Cool :D

[rayword45]

Originally Posted by rayword45

Songs that have ONLY posts agreeing with the OP (regardless of post count):

mutant corecore (11 to 12)
{Satori} v2 (9 to 8)
Revo (debatable on what 2nd post meant) (12 to 13)
Fast Asleep (10 to 11)
what the f is this (9 to 10)
{Firestorm} (8 to 9)
The Final Fantasy (7 to 8)
honki sentai majirenjaa -MAJI eurobeat version- (11 to 12)

IMO, these all should be bumped as well.

[rayword45]

1-99 scale ratings

Seeing how work on this was done for the FGOs/FSOs, I thought it would be nice to continue work on this with the lower difficulties? Any in favor?

I'll start with FMOs (Stealing OWA's list). Please notify me of missing songs and make edits yourself.

76

Novo Mundo
Colorful Course
0 (piano version)
Makiba
Ambient Angels
Heavenly Spores
Defection
Going On Spring Wind
Epidermis
Choprite
Puzzle
Lawn Wake I
Arrogant Cobbler
Largiloquent Dithyramb
World Tour 2004 (Either top or bottom)

77

Rottel-da-station
Jeanie and Caroline
Variations 2
Thrash
Determination
Disconnected Hardkore
Hajnal
The Divine Suicide of K [Heavy]
Midnight Dragon
Romance In The Club feat. Liquido
300
Battle Theme #37
JULIAN
Melonman’s OP
Black Key Etude


78

Grocery Escape Plan
Club
AIM Anthem
Radio Heads
Summer Time Perfume
The Rapids
Church Bells

79

Op.10 No.9
Starwolf
Passage D [Heavy]
Dance and Zeal
Strangeprogram
Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran!
SOLROS

80

Blue-Violet
Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival
Kanon Medley ~Metal Wings~
Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star
Minute Waltz v2
Powerpuff Gabberz
I’m Sick of Uprock
Nanairopanda v2
Kyrie
PianoCore
Clockwork
INFINITY Hyperspace
Marisa Stole The Precious Thing
Scythe of 13
Distorted God
Gaussian Blur
Floating Hour
Cinnamon Roll
BB Evolution
Master Maid
Perfect Cherry Storm
Famicom Selecta
Document 13b
Dendrite v2
Night and Day
Flight of the Bumblebee
Over the Ocean
Overdrive
Mario Minor
Blindfolds Aside
Staring at my Spaceship

The bolded ones need to be moved accurately.

81

Brandish Headless
JULIA
Aim Burst
Otaku Speedvibe [Oni]
Dead and Direct
3020
4 Chord Touhou
Yorukumoryuu Yamikaze
Hellhounds On My Trail
RunnyMorning (SGX Mix)
Caprice
Mermaid Island
Piano Etude (Demon Fire)

82

Big Blue
October
Momentary Life
Silly Symphony
BB Revenge
Flesvelka
Of course you Need and…NEED ME
Bloodmeat [Heavy]
Mermaid Island
bmv.578

83

Toxiferous Dystopia
Skeletor
Eradication
Ripoff
Kono Spoon, Suteki Desu Ne
No Purpose Flour
Piano Concerto 1 ‘ANTI-ARES’ (For Kirby)
He’s A Radical Rat
Piano Etude (Gymnastics)
mutant corecore

[hi19hi19]

Flight of the Bumblebee to 82 or at least 81
Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival down to around 77 +/- 1

Those are the ones that stick out to me most, I'm sure others will have strong opinions as well.

[bmah]

Hi guys. I've updated several songs with new difficulties. Please post if you have strong objections against these. I've picked a number of songs from which the community seemed to strongly agree upon for the most part. In other words, only files with a nearly unanimous consensus.

{Satori} v2: 9 ---> 8
Fast Asleep: 10 ---> 11
Fei Longer: 9 ---> 10
mutant corecore: 11 ---> 12
Story of Snowman and Sunshine Girl: 4 ---> 5
what the f is this: 9 ---> 10

If there are no issues with these files, then their respective difficulty threads will be locked shortly.

[DarknessXoXLight]

Story of Snowman and Sunshine Girl: 4 ---> 11***



:)

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

I think SSSG should be knocked up one more notch but eh. When I get around to it I'll figure out a good post for why. Great start and thank you much Bmah.

[bmah]

SSSG was really quite tricky. Looking at people's response from that thread, opinions on how far it should move up went everywhere. A lot of people said 6, but 5 seemed to be a slightly stronger opinion, not to mention you cannot deny that it's safe to at least bump it up one. AAAing is a different story though, but you can't rely on AAAing as a decent factor of measuring difficulty.

You can always make a new case though if the difficulty still isn't "proper" to the majority. Bitching gets you results!

[jimerax]

Well final fantasy can be also changed after I look at it.
Revo and P4U might be the ones that can be in 13 zone out of these, might be.

also Gruntilda's Lair is like 7/8 and current one looks apparently wrong so will be changed too.

[jimerax]

so, changed like this.

The Final Fantasy - 7 -> 8
Gruntilda's Lair - 6 -> 7 (still debatable w/ 8)
P4U v1 - 12 -> 13
Revo - 12 -> 13

[justin_ator]

Looks good to me, I definitely knew from my sightread that Lair wasn't a 6.

[reuben_tate]

Gruntilda's lair could be a low-8, but I wouldn't mind it as a 7. As for Entry of the Gladiators, Op.68...how is that not an 8 or an 9? rofl

[jimerax]

9, are you joking?

8 is possible for jacky/js patterns though. maybe changing.

[bmah]

Needs more discussion before a further change.

[jimerax]

Originally Posted by bmah

Needs more discussion before a further change.

If the person who rated/is responsible for difficulty rating think the initial rating is apparently wrong, difficulties can changed independent of threads.

Other than this, discussions in threads are needed basically.

ps updated.

[rayword45]

Just sayin, you should update the OP.