Predict: How long until 100 D7 players?

[Soul Evans]

You can pretty much reach to #400 rank if you're quite good like AJ or Urusai (oldcartoon) but yeah 7k pretty much dominates the whole game in terms of performance points, but i would say, my estimate for D7 players starts from #200 above rank in mania that is.

[Ghost_Medley]

2 days ago i'd have to say Dec. 7, 2021 as my bet

[RenegadeLucien]

I'll say the end of 2017.

[Kawaii025]

I would say late 2018. There's always new players discovering the site and people are skillboosting, so I think it'll happen then. But who knows, it could be earlier because there seems to be a lot of skillboosting during OT's.

[Dynam0]

Originally Posted by Fantasticone

How many D9 players in 2020.

If people improve at the rate I do/did then hypothetically it would take 20 years of activity...so nobody? Then again there's dudes like Walrus and Rapta who got to D7 within a relatively short time...and other things like genetics become important in D8 territory so..

[rayword45]

I wanna make my own graph using overall time on the website with a dead gap in 2010

My skill boosting makes no sense

[Dynam0]

Yeah that graph had a lot of fudge-factor in it before D5 or so because I had no real way of knowing exactly when I was D1-4. With newer players it would be cool to check the stats and try to normalize it based on an average playing time per week basis

[Walrusizer]

20 years to d9 doesnt seem too bad, see you guys when im a grandfather or some shit

[inDheart]

i think there would be a push to create D8 before D7 ever got that big tbh

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by korny

Won't happen. Loss of interest/college/work will intervene. Unless some unforeseen huge influx of newcomers suddenly pours into the site, getting more than double the 80% of your 61 won't happen. The necessary exponential growth you claim is viable has never come close to happening so why would it now when this site isn't anywhere near the height of it's activity? Enlighten me old sport

In my explanation post I mentioned that with linear growth, three years seemed viable; PrawnSkunk used past data to general a date even sooner than that using purely linear growth.

That 80% was a generalization of manual labor of checking level ranks against the skill ratings assigned by the site, and after some assessment, it seems like 80% was a massive undercut -- nearly all of the players who are listed as D7 would be put in D7 through manual checks in some way or another (the over-estimation seems to be more common in the D4-D6 area)

As previously mentioned by numerous other people, there are a large number of players who come from other rhythm games that may arrive purely out of curiosity/desire to experiment; this is due in part to some players overlapping in multiple communities and giving subtle exposure (a number of players currently in D7 also actively play either StepMania or osu!mania and those communities have players from other communities, etc).

[Xiz]

When FFR get's its 2,000,000th member

[rushyrulz]

I'm just waiting for the Mina dump.

[yo man im awesome]

muh no division tournament

[hi19hi19]

If everyone good from other 4k communities played a little FFR, the answer would be more or less "today"

Sadly there's... little the engine offers over other VSRGs that would bring them over other than curiosity. And the community, I guess.

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

muh no division tournament

Yeah this would be a great idea!
I wonder who would host one, though?

[SpaceGorilla]

in regards to the d8 prospect, i wouldn't find it unnecessary to hold a vote poll in the FFR forums to see who finds it appropriate

just to experiment, i'll do this and if a mod or someone wants to take it down i don't really care

[RenegadeLucien]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

Yeah this would be a great idea!
I wonder who would host one, though?

I'd do it. Actually got some ideas for one.

[LegendXYZ]

My first post on FFR.

Coming from osu!mania it's great to find another active 4K focused community. There are quite a lot of skilled 4K players in the osu community, most do not know about this game (kudos to Josemba for bringing me here). Looking at the osu!mania rankings, 400~500 should be the near maximum rank if you only ever play 4K songs. It's hard to tell whether players above rank 400 are decent at 4K because of the amount of pp 7K songs give.

Players coming from unexposed 4K communities also pop up in the multiplayer rooms in Osu. Ones I have met are exceptionally strong, possibly at least 20 D7 players from Korea, 5 from China and 1~2 more from Taiwan, and this just a tiny part of Asia. Their communities are though active but are non-existent to westerners. Even some of the skilled 4K players on osu prefer not to log into the client when they play.

Adapting to the layout of this game is the biggest issue imo for most people hopping over from other rhythm games. For me that is the case. From my experience I can safely say there are at least 100 D7 level players in the 4K rhythm gaming realm.

[noname219]

When Synthlight post again.

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by LegendXYZ

Adapting to the layout of this game is the biggest issue imo for most people hopping over from other rhythm games. For me that is the case. From my experience I can safely say there are at least 100 D7 level players in the 4K rhythm gaming realm.

This is my struggle trying to go to osu! as well. I suppose this works both ways.

[Dinglesberry]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

Sadly there's... little the engine offers over other VSRGs that would bring them over other than curiosity. And the community, I guess.

Ranking system thats not bad, check.
New official songs that get released and can be voted on by community, check
Tournaments with prizes that anyone can enter, check


Honestly theres so much good about this game computer to all other rhythm games but none of it is advertised.. This game is hard as hell to get into though, especially for someone whos never played VSRGs.

The one thing I noticed - I actually tried osu for the first time.. the game is just visually amazing, compared to this game.. the menu, all the graphics, it just feels so nice to go through.

Just my 2c.. is there a new users or new players guide to FFR/Stepmania? How to improve? There's no like, definitive source.. no media about it.. the best media we get is top scores, which I mean is nice.. theres no interesting stuff though, no memes, no content.. anyone ever see the FFR facebook page? Lot's of lost potential, unfortunately (shoutout to the people who maintain it though)!

I have big dreams for this game, I feel like it could get very popular, we can't be stuck in the past though.. I respect the view of preserving site history, but when you read responses like "Make sure you get synthlights permission before changing any tokens, he wants to keep the legacy tokens".. I mean fair enough, but it's just sort of odd.