Alive/Dead Ambigram

Wayward Vagabond · 02-3-2015, 11:22 AM

Did this at work last night. I like the way it came out I just need to redo it a bit and flesh it out. Any input would be cool
Dead

Alive

**Xiz** · 02-3-2015, 11:59 AM

This would make a great tattoo.

EDIT: For some reason I envisioned this like on this guy:

**Silvuh** · 02-3-2015, 01:58 PM

This is pretty neat, so I couldn't help but mess around with it a bit. I hope that's okay, eheh.

1. The V in ALIVE has to be big to be the first letter of DEAD, which makes the A in ALIVE is small. To be larger, I figured it could be merged with the D.
2. The E in ALIVE seems to be missing its top, so the curl could go out farther.
3. The E / I in the middle is thin compared to the letters around it, so changing around the curls inside the L can help with that.
4. There are many more small curls below DEAD than above, so it feels unbalanced (though that may be intentional, as if it's dripping blood one way and growing plants the other, which can work.)

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**FF_rules** · 02-3-2015, 03:16 PM

Is it possible to flesh out defined edges in letters with white lines to highlight specific points so the letters are easier to distinguish from the background? I'm not an artist but I find it hard to read these things without knowing what I'm looking for to begin with. I feel like noticing it at a first glance would make it so much better.

Wayward Vagabond · 02-3-2015, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvuh

This is pretty neat, so I couldn't help but mess around with it a bit. I hope that's okay, eheh.

1. The V in ALIVE has to be big to be the first letter of DEAD, which makes the A in ALIVE is small. To be larger, I figured it could be merged with the D.
2. The E in ALIVE seems to be missing its top, so the curl could go out farther.
3. The E / I in the middle is thin compared to the letters around it, so changing around the curls inside the L can help with that.
4. There are many more small curls below DEAD than above, so it feels unbalanced (though that may be intentional, as if it's dripping blood one way and growing plants the other, which can work.)

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Oh that's a neat interpretation. I'm going to redo it and work off of yours

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Originally Posted by FF_rules

Is it possible to flesh out defined edges in letters with white lines to highlight specific points so the letters are easier to distinguish from the background? I'm not an artist but I find it hard to read these things without knowing what I'm looking for to begin with. I feel like noticing it at a first glance would make it so much better.

Most ambigrams are like that. Its more to do with the fact that you're over stylizing so that you can work the words so it becomes another word upside down on backwards on word within a word. Its just the nature

Spenner · 02-5-2015, 08:33 AM

I've always loved visual, non typographical imagery with this life/death ambiguity, but seeing the written form especially with organicness is really interesting. Obviously you could have perfectly clean lines but thats irrelevent really, you are establishing the idea--

If you are to make some sort of heirarchy it should be to the first letter, and establishing the direction of the reading for each word, but only using the first letter to "dip in" from. But Silvuh's no particular reading direction, having the content be embedded but not necessarly obvious, is a neat idea. Only problem with it is people not knowing it is Alive and Dead necessarily being there and seeing other words. Only reason why I suggest a contrast towards the first letters of each half of the ambigram. Interesting stuff, I might play with this concept.

Wayward Vagabond · 02-5-2015, 04:56 PM

thanks spen!

here's a take two. fleshing it out a little more. making it more symmetrical so it looks more or less the same upside down and rightside up at first glance. distinguished the A in live more and combined it with the D like silvuh suggested

Alive

Dead

Wayward Vagabond · 02-5-2015, 04:58 PM

ambrigrams are cool and really fun and challenging to make. ive been making them for a couple years now though this is my first attempt at doing two seperate words vs same word read both ways.

really would be cool to see what you come up with spen 8)

**Kanzas** · 02-5-2015, 04:59 PM

Much better. Good shit, my dude.

Spenner · 02-5-2015, 05:28 PM

I'll make it my doodle subject at work tomorrow

ps nice, adding character weight where it should be really helps readability. Deff keep it in there.

02-3-2015, 11:22 AM	#1
Wayward Vagabond Confirmed Heartbreaker Join Date: Jul 2012 Age: 35 Posts: 5,858	Alive/Dead Ambigram Did this at work last night. I like the way it came out I just need to redo it a bit and flesh it out. Any input would be cool Dead Alive __________________ Last edited by Wayward Vagabond; 02-3-2015 at 11:23 AM..

02-3-2015, 11:59 AM	#2
Xiz TWG Chaos Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cali4nia Age: 32 Posts: 3,399	Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram This would make a great tattoo. EDIT: For some reason I envisioned this like on this guy: __________________ Last edited by Xiz; 02-3-2015 at 11:59 AM..

02-3-2015, 01:58 PM	#3
Silvuh quit Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: anywhere but here Posts: 938	Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram This is pretty neat, so I couldn't help but mess around with it a bit. I hope that's okay, eheh. 1. The V in ALIVE has to be big to be the first letter of DEAD, which makes the A in ALIVE is small. To be larger, I figured it could be merged with the D. 2. The E in ALIVE seems to be missing its top, so the curl could go out farther. 3. The E / I in the middle is thin compared to the letters around it, so changing around the curls inside the L can help with that. 4. There are many more small curls below DEAD than above, so it feels unbalanced (though that may be intentional, as if it's dripping blood one way and growing plants the other, which can work.) Full Size __________________

02-3-2015, 03:16 PM	#4
FF_rules FF Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 668	Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram Is it possible to flesh out defined edges in letters with white lines to highlight specific points so the letters are easier to distinguish from the background? I'm not an artist but I find it hard to read these things without knowing what I'm looking for to begin with. I feel like noticing it at a first glance would make it so much better. __________________

02-5-2015, 08:33 AM	#6
Spenner Forum User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Age: 31 Posts: 2,396	Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram I've always loved visual, non typographical imagery with this life/death ambiguity, but seeing the written form especially with organicness is really interesting. Obviously you could have perfectly clean lines but thats irrelevent really, you are establishing the idea-- If you are to make some sort of heirarchy it should be to the first letter, and establishing the direction of the reading for each word, but only using the first letter to "dip in" from. But Silvuh's no particular reading direction, having the content be embedded but not necessarly obvious, is a neat idea. Only problem with it is people not knowing it is Alive and Dead necessarily being there and seeing other words. Only reason why I suggest a contrast towards the first letters of each half of the ambigram. Interesting stuff, I might play with this concept. __________________

02-5-2015, 04:56 PM	#7
Wayward Vagabond Confirmed Heartbreaker Join Date: Jul 2012 Age: 35 Posts: 5,858	Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram thanks spen! here's a take two. fleshing it out a little more. making it more symmetrical so it looks more or less the same upside down and rightside up at first glance. distinguished the A in live more and combined it with the D like silvuh suggested Alive Dead __________________ Last edited by Wayward Vagabond; 02-5-2015 at 04:56 PM..

02-5-2015, 04:58 PM	#8
Wayward Vagabond Confirmed Heartbreaker Join Date: Jul 2012 Age: 35 Posts: 5,858	Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram ambrigrams are cool and really fun and challenging to make. ive been making them for a couple years now though this is my first attempt at doing two seperate words vs same word read both ways. really would be cool to see what you come up with spen 8) __________________

02-5-2015, 04:59 PM	#9
Kanzas Buh Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,459	Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram Much better. Good shit, my dude. __________________ Top 5 Pimp Slap - 7-0-0-1 party 4u "holy nite mix" v2 - 5-0-1-2 Fei Longer - AAA HELLBEAT - 9-0-1-3 Flame Repellent - 5-0-0-0

02-5-2015, 05:28 PM	#10
Spenner Forum User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Age: 31 Posts: 2,396	Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram I'll make it my doodle subject at work tomorrow ps nice, adding character weight where it should be really helps readability. Deff keep it in there. __________________

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