HOW TO DO CROSSOVERS - Page 3

RadioLegit · 09-3-2005, 04:32 PM

Crossing over is such a waste of energy. If you can, double step as much as possible because being consistent at that will make you consistent at just about every song that doesn't have transparent alternations in their patterns (i.e. 96% of the playlist).

**doggies4life04** · 10-4-2005, 09:33 AM

Having trouble doing crossovers? Cant seem to make use of BOTH your feet without falling off the pad? Well I have the answer for you. STOP DOING SONGS YOU CANT PASS!

Once you are able to do crossovers on easier songs, doing the harder songs will come to you naturally with time and practice. You're goal is this: Exotic Ethnic on heavy. Like a former poster said, this song is loaded with crossovers. It IS possible to play through it without using the same foot twice. For a look at this song, go to:

http://www.ddrfreak.com/stepcharts/s...&Submit=Submit

Start on your left foot...and go from there lol. What I used to do to help me was print off these step charts and write which foot I would use on each note, giving me a map of the song to follow.

As a side note, I KNOW most of the more advanced players have not been able to figure out Afronova Re-Venge crossovers. You know what part I'm talking about...

Afronova Re-Venge Step Chart:

http://www.ddrfreak.com/stepcharts/s...&Submit=Submit

At box 17 the steps and feet are as follows:

Start on your left foot, then go from there

You will find yourself sideways on the pad, and I suppose you are not in fact doing crossovers at all, just playing sideways lol. Easiest thing to do is print that page and start on your left foot at the beginning and alternate LRLR until you get to the end.

Hope that helps!

asnwiz · 10-8-2005, 12:27 PM

Man, I wish i coiuld do all that fancy stuff....on my ddr pad...

Metalcrusher · 11-13-2005, 08:20 PM

u lost me at the numberss LOL which key is 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 ETC i've been playing DDR for 1 month about and i play heavy speed 2(depending on song) on controller and standard speed 1.5(depending on song) and for FFR i can do like almost every song... but like 2 anywayz plz explain more on the numbers

good job :P

Renommus · 12-10-2005, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromer

Lets first namew all the songs that utilize the crossover so we can all help evryone out.

AM-3P
CSFIL Speed Mix
Rhythm and Police
So Deep(Perfect Sphere Remix)
Tsugaru
Irresistiblement
Sync(For Extreme) I not really sure about this one.
V(For Extreme)

Someone help me out. I can't think of anymore at the moment.

Can't stop falling in love (Speed Mix). My favorite song.

dAnceguy117 · 12-12-2005, 07:19 PM

DAMN, I missed this thread's anniversary. ='(

For people quoting and commenting on year-old posts, learn to read timestamps. Odds aren't against them having changed their opinions by now.

When I made this thread, I was a bit biased toward crossovers. Crossovers are definitely a necessary skill. However, they shouldn't always be used. For instance, on the 486426486426486 pattern in Afronova discussed on this page, I tend to double step it. The way described above (facing the right arrow) works just fine, but I would probably mess myself up. I'm stupid like that.

Spins are a completely different issue. The only reason to do a spin is for looks. This, of course, doesn't pertain to ITG. Songs like Oasis make you spin out of control, and you'll be penalized harshly if you don't. This is the DDR forum, though. Every spin I can think of in DDR could be done more easily by double stepping than by spinning.

Wow, I just noticed something. I've failed to mention anywhere in this thread that the ideas I suggest pertain to playing without the bar. Playing with the bar is probably very different. It's not my strong point, so I won't talk about it.

This thread is old XD

RadioLegit · 12-13-2005, 04:49 PM

If you hold the bar, you will become 10 times better. That's a scientific fact.

dAnceguy117 · 12-18-2005, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioLegit

If you hold the bar, you will become 10 times better. That's a scientific fact.

Not to mention, you will look 10 times as faggy. Who doesn't want that?

Actually, I have nothing against people that use the bar. I just don't.

RadioLegit · 02-21-2006, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioLegit

If you hold the bar, you will become 10 times better. That's a scientific fact.

Not to mention, you will look 10 times as faggy. Who doesn't want that?

Actually, I have nothing against people that use the bar. I just don't.

If you play DDR, then you've already broadcast the message that you're one foot out of the closet. May as well go all the way.

morbidsouls420 · 03-26-2006, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tank101

What about hard stuff like 42682?

Those are almost impossible unless you're set up perfectly.

The only way to do them is to change your position so that your left foot is on down and your right foot in on right. You can figure it out from there.

i actually like 42682 the best... i dont really consider it a crossover.... but i treat it as a spin
for example
4 left
2 right
6 left *facing trick bar or crowd
8 right facing screen again
2 left just going back a step

Haru0ro · 04-29-2006, 05:57 PM

Lol crossovers are fun..it makes it look like your doing a little hip hop dance...but it wastes energy its better not to

SpoOkyMagician · 04-29-2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

If you hold the bar, you will become 10 times better. That's a scientific fact.

That's one thing in DDR that i am NEVER USING. [Whenever i go to a arcade to play ddr that is.] I'd rather just hit the arrows standing up and not leaning back like a moron... :P LOL

and as for crossovers, just change your foot position. for example;

[ v, >, <, then continue the pattern.] (Like in the song AM-3P) Just use one foot for one of the arrow cross pattern and use the other foot for the other two arrows.

edit: That sounds confusing... But i am correct. I dont explain things very well... But, thats what i AM trying to say. Just try it out and u will get it...

SoggyWaffulz · 05-19-2006, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregHead

Dang, I thought I remembered them talking about corssovers.

Me too. I'm sure they mentioned something on max or max2 about that whole rotating your body thing.

Oh yeah and changing your foot position is easier. 426242624 combos are easy with

left on 4
left and right on 2 depending on which way your going
right on 6

So if its a left arrow, left foot on 4 and right foot on 2, and right arrow would be opposite.

Renommus · 05-19-2006, 06:37 AM

To whoever said double-stepping was more energy efficent than crossovers:

WHAT!?

Double stepping means you're stepping twice as fast on that foot as you should be, like jacks. This is by no means energy conservant.

Also, Crossovers > Double-stepping for PA.

SoggyWaffulz · 05-19-2006, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renommus

Also, Crossovers > Double-stepping for PA.

It really doesn't matter. If you're good enough to A+ most songs on Heavy Mode, you can indure anything and everything.

I wish I had a didgital camera.

Renommus · 05-19-2006, 03:09 PM

Try doing the intro to CSFIL:SM without turning at all.

Awkward, isn't it?

ducky285 · 05-27-2006, 09:55 PM

What's the point of explaining crossovers using numpad numbers?

Why not use LDUR for left, down, up, and right?

Makes sense to me...

shutxup123 · 06-22-2006, 11:00 AM

im seriously confused! O_O

Haus · 07-13-2006, 09:31 AM

Don't be confused. A crossover is keeping one foot anchored on the up or down arrow and the other hitting the left arrow and then the righ arrow (or vice versa). For instance, look at this:
http://www.ddrfreak.com/stepcharts/s...&Submit=Submit
Now these crossovers are pretty easy to see. The pattern of LDRDLDRD consists of 3 of them. Left foot on left, right foot on down, left foot on right, right foot on down.
Hope that helped.

caldera · 07-24-2006, 11:08 AM

how is tsugaru (heavy) considered a crossover song, it's extremly easy. Its mainly gallops.

04-29-2006, 05:57 PM	#51
Haru0ro FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11	Re: HOW TO DO CROSSOVERS Lol crossovers are fun..it makes it look like your doing a little hip hop dance...but it wastes energy its better not to

05-19-2006, 06:37 AM	#54
Renommus FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: I am sexy. Posts: 310	Re: HOW TO DO CROSSOVERS To whoever said double-stepping was more energy efficent than crossovers: *WHAT!?* Double stepping means you're stepping twice as fast on that foot as you should be, like jacks. This is by no means energy conservant. Also, Crossovers > Double-stepping for PA.

05-19-2006, 03:09 PM	#56
Renommus FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: I am sexy. Posts: 310	Re: HOW TO DO CROSSOVERS Try doing the intro to CSFIL:SM without turning at all. Awkward, isn't it?

05-27-2006, 09:55 PM	#57
ducky285 FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cicero, IL Age: 39 Posts: 1,388	Re: HOW TO DO CROSSOVERS What's the point of explaining crossovers using numpad numbers? Why not use LDUR for left, down, up, and right? Makes sense to me...

06-22-2006, 11:00 AM	#58
shutxup123 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1	Re: HOW TO DO CROSSOVERS im seriously confused! O_O

09-3-2005, 04:32 PM	#41
RadioLegit FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17	Crossing over is such a waste of energy. If you can, double step as much as possible because being consistent at that will make you consistent at just about every song that doesn't have transparent alternations in their patterns (i.e. 96% of the playlist).

10-4-2005, 09:33 AM	#42
doggies4life04 FFR Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Frisco, TX Age: 38 Posts: 17	Having trouble doing crossovers? Cant seem to make use of BOTH your feet without falling off the pad? Well I have the answer for you. STOP DOING SONGS YOU CANT PASS! Once you are able to do crossovers on easier songs, doing the harder songs will come to you naturally with time and practice. You're goal is this: Exotic Ethnic on heavy. Like a former poster said, this song is loaded with crossovers. It IS possible to play through it without using the same foot twice. For a look at this song, go to: http://www.ddrfreak.com/stepcharts/s...&Submit=Submit Start on your left foot...and go from there lol. What I used to do to help me was print off these step charts and write which foot I would use on each note, giving me a map of the song to follow. As a side note, I KNOW most of the more advanced players have not been able to figure out Afronova Re-Venge crossovers. You know what part I'm talking about... Afronova Re-Venge Step Chart: http://www.ddrfreak.com/stepcharts/s...&Submit=Submit At box 17 the steps and feet are as follows: Start on your left foot, then go from there You will find yourself sideways on the pad, and I suppose you are not in fact doing crossovers at all, just playing sideways lol. Easiest thing to do is print that page and start on your left foot at the beginning and alternate LRLR until you get to the end. Hope that helps!

10-8-2005, 12:27 PM	#43
asnwiz FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2	Man, I wish i coiuld do all that fancy stuff....on my ddr pad...

11-13-2005, 08:20 PM	#44
Metalcrusher FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1	u lost me at the numberss LOL which key is 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 ETC i've been playing DDR for 1 month about and i play heavy speed 2(depending on song) on controller and standard speed 1.5(depending on song) and for FFR i can do like almost every song... but like 2 anywayz plz explain more on the numbers good job :P

12-12-2005, 07:19 PM	#46
dAnceguy117 new hand moves = dab Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: he/they Age: 33 Posts: 10,094	DAMN, I missed this thread's anniversary. ='( For people quoting and commenting on year-old posts, learn to read timestamps. Odds aren't against them having changed their opinions by now. When I made this thread, I was a bit biased toward crossovers. Crossovers are definitely a necessary skill. However, they shouldn't always be used. For instance, on the 486426486426486 pattern in Afronova discussed on this page, I tend to double step it. The way described above (facing the right arrow) works just fine, but I would probably mess myself up. I'm stupid like that. Spins are a completely different issue. The only reason to do a spin is for looks. This, of course, doesn't pertain to ITG. Songs like Oasis make you spin out of control, and you'll be penalized harshly if you don't. This is the DDR forum, though. Every spin I can think of in DDR could be done more easily by double stepping than by spinning. Wow, I just noticed something. I've failed to mention anywhere in this thread that the ideas I suggest pertain to playing without the bar. Playing with the bar is probably very different. It's not my strong point, so I won't talk about it. This thread is old XD

12-13-2005, 04:49 PM	#47
RadioLegit FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17	If you hold the bar, you will become 10 times better. That's a scientific fact.

07-13-2006, 09:31 AM	#59
Haus FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 7	To shutxup123... Don't be confused. A crossover is keeping one foot anchored on the up or down arrow and the other hitting the left arrow and then the righ arrow (or vice versa). For instance, look at this: http://www.ddrfreak.com/stepcharts/s...&Submit=Submit Now these crossovers are pretty easy to see. The pattern of LDRDLDRD consists of 3 of them. Left foot on left, right foot on down, left foot on right, right foot on down. Hope that helped.

07-24-2006, 11:08 AM	#60
caldera FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1	Re: HOW TO DO CROSSOVERS how is tsugaru (heavy) considered a crossover song, it's extremly easy. Its mainly gallops.

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