First Official FFR StepCon - Page 20

**psychoangel691** · 10-15-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliman93

They're always.

I take about 10 minutes to do the sync, I put 1/4 notes, then I play the song with Assist Tick + 0.5 Speed.

It's pretty easy to hear the difference between 0.00 and 0.02 when it's super slow. so Yes, my steps are always synced perfectly

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I'm telling you, you'd be surprised. There's been plenty of files that seem "perfectly" on sync and you pop them in DDReam and you can clearly see it's off.

**TC_Halogen** · 10-15-2012, 08:14 PM

Extremely experienced stepartists spend a much longer time that and still don't get within 10 ms of proper sync on a file. If you use DDreamStudio, I can understand you having "perfect" sync (and I put quotes because even DDream has an incredibly small amount of error within it), but if you use only StepMania, then I guarantee you that your files will have at least 5 ms of error (the only consistent exceptions to this are WinDEU and Mute).

EDIT: also, if you step/sync using a lower rate while using an assist tick, it's very likely that your steps are slightly off because the most prominent area of a given waveform won't stand out quite as much when your samples are time-stretched (i.e. slowed down).

**psychoangel691** · 10-15-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eastsideman09

My sync was off a whole 16th note lol

Yea when I just went to play it your file is now way off for me. Do you have a global offset?

**chiliman93** · 10-15-2012, 09:07 PM

depending of the music genre (most of the time I step Electro music = huge kick on each beats = stands out correctly while time stretched) it can be done quite easily.

and, IMO, 3-5 ms desync is not that much of a deal, as long as I can Fantastic them all, it doesn't really matter.

HEHEHEEH I knew it.

Tried the program, opened up my step, and the "offsync" was peanuts. it can't be noticeable when playing, but I guess it's cool to have it perfectly synced.

**omgfail** · 10-15-2012, 09:54 PM

Are the guidelines for submitting these charts the same as the normal batches, which require a .dwi file, specific folder names, and the difficulty not on beginner or edit? The OP was a bit vague on what we need to include when we submit.

**eastsideman09** · 10-15-2012, 09:56 PM

Sooooo I resubmitted my file, please take the second one!
Not sure if it's just me or how to stop it, but timing/bpm changes on SM5 only save to the .ssc, and I forgot to adjust the offset in my .sm.... Quick fix, just resubmitted it, sorry!

**bmah** · 10-15-2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by omgfail

Are the guidelines for submitting these charts the same as the normal batches, which require a .dwi file, specific folder names, and the difficulty not on beginner or edit? The OP was a bit vague on what we need to include when we submit.

I would follow that method of submission.

**psychoangel691** · 10-15-2012, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omgfail

Are the guidelines for submitting these charts the same as the normal batches, which require a .dwi file, specific folder names, and the difficulty not on beginner or edit? The OP was a bit vague on what we need to include when we submit.

It should be stepped on the heavy difficulty, but other than that yea basically just like a normal batch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliman93

depending of the music genre (most of the time I step Electro music = huge kick on each beats = stands out correctly while time stretched) it can be done quite easily.

and, IMO, 3-5 ms desync is not that much of a deal, as long as I can Fantastic them all, it doesn't really matter.

HEHEHEEH I knew it.

Tried the program, opened up my step, and the "offsync" was peanuts. it can't be noticeable when playing, but I guess it's cool to have it perfectly synced.

That "peanuts" to you makes a difference when the files are converted for FFR. But hey, what do I know, I've only been converting files for an FFR engine for a few years.

**omgfail** · 10-15-2012, 10:07 PM

Alright, thanks guys.

**Razor** · 10-15-2012, 11:33 PM

still debating zzz

**chiliman93** · 10-16-2012, 12:35 AM

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That "peanuts" to you makes a difference when the files are converted for FFR. But hey, what do I know, I've only been converting files for an FFR engine for a few years.

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I didn't know that.

**Zakvvv666** · 10-16-2012, 12:40 AM

The reason it matters is because FFR runs 30 fps and timing is based on frames.
It makes a huge difference if things are off by a frame

**omega_grunt666** · 10-16-2012, 03:34 AM

Welp, I goterdun,

It was actually pretty fun after all the screw-ups and restarts. Don't really expect to win with all the amazing people in my group but at least I learned a little from it. ^_^

Good luck everyone!

devilstefan666 · 10-16-2012, 05:38 AM

Hey. Atleast some people aren't complaining.. ^^^^^

Holy shits your a 666..

**sticklydude** · 10-16-2012, 06:03 AM

Sent mine in finallly heh.

Not expecting to do that well at all, but at least it was somewhat entertaining.

**psychoangel691** · 10-16-2012, 11:38 AM

What's funny is more of the people that I haven't seen around or really seen step sent in charts than the people I expected to. Also for those feeling discouraged about the people in their group, group 2 and 3 have had very few submissions. Group 3 only has 3 right now and only 4 for group 2. Group 1 has the most with a whole whopping 6.

I really hope more people are still finishing up considering how many signups we had only getting 13 submissions is pretty weak.

**Klosethy** · 10-16-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691

What's funny is more of the people that I haven't seen around or really seen step sent in charts than the people I expected to. Also for those feeling discouraged about the people in their group, group 2 and 3 have had very few submissions. Group 3 only has 3 right now and only 4 for group 2. Group 1 has the most with a whole whopping 6.

I really hope more people are still finishing up considering how many signups we had only getting 13 submissions is pretty weak.

So I have a 1 in 3 chance of winning this thing. :P sorry about the description and stuff.

**alloyus** · 10-16-2012, 02:03 PM

Yeah I'm around halfway through mine I'll definitely be sending one in~

**xVaLoRx** · 10-16-2012, 04:17 PM

I probably would make a chart for this, it's just that the song choice is not my cup of tea. If I saw this song in sm I probably wouldn't even play it. That's just my preference though :/

**psychoangel691** · 10-16-2012, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xVaLoRx

I probably would make a chart for this, it's just that the song choice is not my cup of tea. If I saw this song in sm I probably wouldn't even play it. That's just my preference though :/

That's kinda part of the challenge though, stepping something you might not normally step. Pulls you out of your comfort zone so to speak.

10-15-2012, 08:14 PM	#382
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Re: First Official FFR StepCon Extremely experienced stepartists spend a much longer time that and still don't get within 10 ms of proper sync on a file. If you use DDreamStudio, I can understand you having "perfect" sync (and I put quotes because even DDream has an incredibly small amount of error within it), but if you use only StepMania, then I guarantee you that your files will have at least 5 ms of error (the only consistent exceptions to this are WinDEU and Mute). EDIT: also, if you step/sync using a lower rate while using an assist tick, it's very likely that your steps are slightly off because the most prominent area of a given waveform won't stand out quite as much when your samples are time-stretched (i.e. slowed down).

10-15-2012, 09:07 PM	#384
chiliman93 I FUCKING LOVE CAKE Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canadeer Age: 30 Posts: 62	depending of the music genre (most of the time I step Electro music = huge kick on each beats = stands out correctly while time stretched) it can be done quite easily. and, IMO, 3-5 ms desync is not that much of a deal, as long as I can Fantastic them all, it doesn't really matter. HEHEHEEH I knew it. Tried the program, opened up my step, and the "offsync" was peanuts. it can't be noticeable when playing, but I guess it's cool to have it perfectly synced. EDIT : Ha. Opened another one and it's 100% on the RIGHT spot. and I only used ITG. Last edited by psychoangel691; 10-15-2012 at 10:06 PM..

10-15-2012, 09:54 PM	#385
omgfail FFR Veteran Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 34	Re: First Official FFR StepCon Are the guidelines for submitting these charts the same as the normal batches, which require a .dwi file, specific folder names, and the difficulty not on beginner or edit? The OP was a bit vague on what we need to include when we submit.

10-15-2012, 10:07 PM	#389
omgfail FFR Veteran Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 34	Re: First Official FFR StepCon Alright, thanks guys.

10-16-2012, 03:34 AM	#393
omega_grunt666 Nescio quid faciam Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 892	Re: First Official FFR StepCon Welp, I goterdun, It was actually pretty fun after all the screw-ups and restarts. Don't really expect to win with all the amazing people in my group but at least I learned a little from it. ^_^ Good luck everyone! __________________

10-16-2012, 05:38 AM	#394
devilstefan666 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 28	Hey. Atleast some people aren't complaining.. ^^^^^ Holy shits your a 666.. Last edited by psychoangel691; 10-16-2012 at 11:34 AM..

10-16-2012, 06:03 AM	#395
sticklydude r.i.p. tiny hippo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: far away from you, FL Age: 30 Posts: 2,165	Re: First Official FFR StepCon Sent mine in finallly heh. Not expecting to do that well at all, but at least it was somewhat entertaining.

10-16-2012, 02:03 PM	#398
alloyus ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Massachusetts Age: 31 Posts: 3,268	Re: First Official FFR StepCon Yeah I'm around halfway through mine I'll definitely be sending one in~ __________________ ^FFP_D0pey btw

10-16-2012, 04:17 PM	#399
xVaLoRx MYFUCKINGSOUND Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NJ Age: 28 Posts: 1,426	Re: First Official FFR StepCon I probably would make a chart for this, it's just that the song choice is not my cup of tea. If I saw this song in sm I probably wouldn't even play it. That's just my preference though :/ __________________

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