[Concluded] drizzleRomanceGirl's FFR Team Tournament

[Dru0129]

In!

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

Originally Posted by Psittacosis

Forgive me if this is in the OP, and I just missed it, but what day is this actually starting?

EDIT: Nevermind, looked through the whole thread. Just a suggestion, but you should probably put when it *should* be starting in the OP. Doesn't mean it has to start then, but it'd be helpful to say something along the lines of "This will start approximately -this date-" that it's likely to start near. At least people don't have to look through the entire thread that way. @_@ And also so you don't get the same exact question over and over again xD

Okay, I'll add the approximate starting date.

Originally Posted by TheSaxRunner05

I'm not quite sure without checking stats (on my phone) but I'm pretty sure Font Size 72 is advanced

FontSize was really close to being advanced, but he still didn't have high enough scores to be in that division in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Untimely Friction

In Idc where I am is it too late?

No, it's not too late at all. I'll add you in a few minutes and place you.

[alloyus]

That TP

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

@arcnmx, On second thought, maybe I have been paying too much attention to levelranks. Looking at how you unlocked Viennacore, The Five, Disconnected Hardkore, Sonata Quasi, and Gacha Gacha, along with St. Scarhand, that shows consistency, and I'm willing to move you up to Advanced unless you're against it. ^.^

On the other hand, I still think Zakvvv666 really should be in Advanced because he's unlocked pretty much all the same skill tokens as arcnmx and more, and he has over five 65+ AAAs with some 75+ SDGs. Remember, not everyone in the same division is going to be similar in skill level, which is why placement is crucial.

[HalfStep]

Zak has more AAAs and SDGs cause he played more. I have a 75 SDG(3-0-0-0), 10 70-74 SDGs, 4-5 AAAs over 64, including a 66. I have a 66 and 68 blackflagged. I'm very close in skill to Zak, it's unfair to have him in Advanced honestly ~

I could do the same analysis for him and get similar results ^^

[j-rodd123]

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[drizzleRomanceGirl]

Originally Posted by HalfStep

Zak has more AAAs and SDGs cause he played more. I have a 75 SDG(3-0-0-0), 10 70-74 SDGs, 4-5 AAAs over 64, including a 66. I have a 66 and 68 blackflagged. I'm very close in skill to Zak, it's unfair to have him in Advanced honestly ~

I could do the same analysis for him and get similar results ^^

I'm sorry but I don't agree. >.< For instance, I'm looking for at least three 65+ AAAs, or five or more 65+ SDGs, along with at least two 70+ AAAs and/or three or more 75+ clean SDGs with 5 or less goods. I'd feel bad moving Zak down a division, but since you're close to being Advanced, if you got a few more 75+ clean SDGs or two 70+ AAAs I'd be happy to move you up to Advanced. I appreciate your concern, but I think it would be a bad idea to move Zak down a division.

[ryuyasha]

Originally Posted by drizzleRomanceGirl

Thank you for the advice, but in my opinion, I think using mirror is going against what the original stepartist intended. I really don't like the idea of inverting the entire stepchart to make the song easier or to avoid mindblocks. The stepartist stepped the file that way for a reason.

In! And thank you for saying this. I was wondering if I was the only person who held this opinion.

[HalfStep]

The problem is that you're looking at quantity, and it makes people who played more look better than they really are. My main issue right now is that "Advanced" is basically only D6 and up players, with Zak who is low/mid D5.

I'm a strong believer that you should adjust your division requirements based on who signs up for the tournament, and in this current situation, if you bumped all of D5 up to Advanced, you would have a very split up division. (The difference between D5 and D6/7 is HUGE)

I think most people would agree with me that Zak down and arc up would be very very close to perfect placements. (You did a great job on everything else btw ^^)

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

Originally Posted by HalfStep

The problem is that you're looking at quantity, and it makes people who played more look better than they really are. My main issue right now is that "Advanced" is basically only D6 and up players, with Zak who is low/mid D5.

I'm a strong believer that you should adjust your division requirements based on who signs up for the tournament, and in this current situation, if you bumped all of D5 up to Advanced, you would have a very split up division. (The difference between D5 and D6/7 is HUGE)

I think most people would agree with me that Zak down and arc up would be very very close to perfect placements. (You did a great job on everything else btw ^^)

I understand what you're saying, but I could make a similar argument with Viisbya and loop123456 being really high for their division; yes they're probably going to get much better scores than the rest of the division, but this is a team tournament, and there's almost always going to be ace players who will do really well. ^.^ I have moved arcnmx to Advanced though.
P.S. Thank you for the compliment!

[HalfStep]

Of course divisions have higher end players and lower end, but the cutoff should be as clear as you can make it. Here's how I see it, loop and vis are high in their division, but they're quite far away from the lowest in Intermediate (Alphawolf/Sax/Doug imo). You did a great job on that split.

High intermediate players include me, FontSize and even Fluttershy currently. We're very close in skill to Zak, the lowest player in Advanced, but quite far to arcnmx and Hakulyte, which I would consider the following weakest.

Basically what I'm saying is that if you move the Intermediate/Advanced cutoff up slightly, you would have much more balanced divisions than if you leave it where it is.

[James May]

I heard that mirror is on so I'm in huehuehue

[arcnmx]

Eh, the problem with requiring counts of AAAs like that is exactly as HalfStep said, it simply measures how often a person plays rather than measure their skill. The way the placements have fallen, Advanced is wholly comprised of D6-skill players - Zak doesn't belong there. Otherwise I feel like the placements were very accurate.

However, your requirements for Advanced is something expected of D5-level players. So going by that myself, HalfStep, Fluttershy, and FontSize72LOL (probably even Pretentious, who's been getting really good lately) should be bumped up as we can all well meet them. It really depends on whether Advanced should be considered only D6 or D5-D6, I think how it is now besides Zak works out well though - the division sizes are pretty neatly even because of it.

As for where I personally belong I don't care. I'll either be the high end of one or low end of the other >.>

Also re: mirror, definitely support allowing it. I don't use it but for spread players it's pretty important for leveling the playing field across left-handed and right-handed players.

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

Okay, maybe you're right. I'll raise the bar for the Advanced division and move Zakvvv666 go to the Intermediate division. ^.^

[HalfStep]

Awesome! Sorry for arguing the placements so much, I feel a bit like a douche x_x You're a great host drizzle

[Jonlovesddr]

I'm probably beginner

[HalfStep]

No lol

[Jonlovesddr]

vince stop being a meanie

[Elmerz]

You'll quit after round 1 anyways. <3

[Jonlovesddr]

not going 2 quit this time