New songs/features! Just suggestions, anyway!

Anticrombie0909 · 09-6-2003, 07:22 AM

Ok, first of all I love this site, but it needs a coupla things. One thing is that a lot of the songs either have a really vanilla backround movie, or don't have one at all. That's not as important, just something I could see improvement on. The real clincher is lack of songs, and yes i know it's difficult and I know you just added like 3, but I had a few suggestions. Beethoven virus was a great idea, I'd actually been waiting for that one, but another really good one is Dr. M, another Pump it Up song. I'm a pretty avid DDR and Pump it Up player, and that's one of the most popular songs (not to mention one of my favorites.) I'd also suggest sticking some more DDR classic dance songs on (such as Sandstorm, or something). Oh, and I don't know if this would work, but try 'Seven Nation Army' by The white stripes...yes, I know it's a completely unorthadox song for FFR/DDR, but I love that song man! Anyway, disregarding my last statement, just think about it. I know me and some other FFR fans would be glad to see it.

**Synthlight** · 09-6-2003, 08:24 AM

Backgrounds --> being addressed

Songs --> get the authors to send me permission and we can talk about using those songs.

I would give a longer reply but it's 8:30am and I have been up all night

Cheers,

Synthlight

plasmix · 09-6-2003, 08:46 AM

Do me a favor, anticrombie. Contact Darude. WE NEED SANDSTORM.

makaveli121212 · 09-6-2003, 10:42 AM

Yup i agree, sandstorm would be nice

QreepyBORIS · 09-6-2003, 04:46 PM

Sandstorm has been beaten to within an inch of death, knocked out, gotten fooled around with while unconcious, and prodded with sharp sticks.

Then fooled around with some more.

SotN · 09-6-2003, 07:51 PM

*looks at trigun pic*

I dont get it. What does that have to do with anything?

QreepyBORIS · 09-6-2003, 09:02 PM

People think they are leet cause they can click the upload button, I guess.

Paradox137 · 09-8-2003, 06:01 PM

Ok, first of all, from a non-DDR standpoint, I am reeeally tired of hearing Sandstorm. It is so over-played it isn't even funny.

Second, from a DDR standpoint, Sandstorm isn't all that great to play. Well, it depends... I've played the DDR version, and I've played a redone version on StepMania where the steps were on the 16th notes. I enjoyed the SM one more, but I still don't think it belongs on FFR.

If you're going to get a Darude song approved, get Feel The Beat approved. Much better song.

A song I would much rather see is Enervate by Transa. I don't know how to get it approved or anything (I know, contact the song's creater), but I just thought I'd throw it out there as far as songs "I'd like to see."

We don't need Sandstorm.

**lightdarkness** · 09-8-2003, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradox137

Ok, first of all, from a non-DDR standpoint, I am reeeally tired of hearing Sandstorm. It is so over-played it isn't even funny.

Second, from a DDR standpoint, Sandstorm isn't all that great to play. Well, it depends... I've played the DDR version, and I've played a redone version on StepMania where the steps were on the 16th notes. I enjoyed the SM one more, but I still don't think it belongs on FFR.

If you're going to get a Darude song approved, get Feel The Beat approved. Much better song.

A song I would much rather see is Enervate by Transa. I don't know how to get it approved or anything (I know, contact the song's creater), but I just thought I'd throw it out there as far as songs "I'd like to see."

We don't need Sandstorm.

I disagree with you 110%
sandstorm will never get old
no matter how many times you remix it, sandstorm is sandstorm, and it will never be forgoten, i just wish i knew how to contact dardude

jewpinthethird · 09-8-2003, 06:33 PM

No, no, no. I am so sick of Sandstorm.... It used to be my favorite song, then whamo.... I'd rather listen to Ghetto Superstar by Mya.

**nestlekwik** · 09-8-2003, 06:44 PM

You are pretty much confronting this the wrong way. You'd basically have to go through the record label first before even considering talking to Darude. Essentially, you would need two permissions to use a licensed song and most likely you will have to pay royalties unless you can cut them a very, very, very good deal. It isn't as easy as you think. Even if we got the song for free, there would probably still be a massive number of contracts involved detailing the rights and properties we would have with the song. People seem to think it's just a process of "Hey Mr. Darude, can we use Sandstorm?" and Darude just says "Why certainly!" It just isn't that easy. Record companies are stingy and protect their artists like bodyguards cause that's where they make the money and usually if no money can be made off of a deal, the record business will want no part of it. The artists are contractually obligated (almost "owned by" in some cases) to the record company so rights are not 100% completely up to the artists themselves. Is anyone following this?

And I'm sick of Sandstorm too. Go get some tracks by Kreo or Roc Project.

QreepyBORIS · 09-8-2003, 09:21 PM

How long is the ACTUAL ORIGINAL Sandstorm?

Cause, you can use 10-15% of it without rights.

I think.

I'll check tomorrow, I hope.

In other words, we can have like a 3 minute clip of ANY AMARA song. So long....

I'll check though.

SotN · 09-9-2003, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nestlekwik

You are pretty much confronting this the wrong way. You'd basically have to go through the record label first before even considering talking to Darude. Essentially, you would need two permissions to use a licensed song and most likely you will have to pay royalties unless you can cut them a very, very, very good deal. It isn't as easy as you think. Even if we got the song for free, there would probably still be a massive number of contracts involved detailing the rights and properties we would have with the song. People seem to think it's just a process of "Hey Mr. Darude, can we use Sandstorm?" and Darude just says "Why certainly!" It just isn't that easy. Record companies are stingy and protect their artists like bodyguards cause that's where they make the money and usually if no money can be made off of a deal, the record business will want no part of it. The artists are contractually obligated (almost "owned by" in some cases) to the record company so rights are not 100% completely up to the artists themselves. Is anyone following this?

I'd be happy to make a SotN's notes version.

This is the problem with nearly all big artists and labels being on FFR. This is the case 99% of the time. your mileage may vary

Case 1

1. artist makes song
2. artist sells the song to label. in exchange they get money and publicity from the label.
3. Label spreads the song around everywhere.
4. FFR kid see songs. wants it on FFR. he asks permission.
5. artist cant give permission, because he sold it to the label.
6. Since label 1)can still make money off of the song and 2) has of fear of putting anything for free on the net because their little Napster-phobia, they automaticaly say "HELL NO."

As bad as this is, getting rights to songs in Japan or Korea *cough*MAX300oranyotherofficialDDRsong*cough*is even worse.

Paradox137 · 09-9-2003, 11:11 PM

Speaking of Napster-phobia, just recently the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) has sued 260 people, individuals, for downloaded music off of programs such as Kazaa and Gnutella. They're suing them for anywhere between $750 to $150,000 per song. Actually, they're suing the person who pays for the internet, usually the parents... and if the children are downloading music, the parents have to take the crap.

lancer77 · 09-9-2003, 11:56 PM

Sandstorm! Sandstorm! Sandstorm!

View Poll Results: Which song would you like to see more for FFR?
'Sandstorm' by Darude	5	45.45%
'Dr. M' by Unknown	1	9.09%
'Clubbed to Death' by Rob D	0	0%
'Seven Nation Army' by The White Stripes (cause I like that song)	1	9.09%
'The Four Seasons' by Vivaldi	0	0%
Other From DDR	2	18.18%
Other From Pump it Up	0	0%
Other	2	18.18%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

09-6-2003, 07:22 AM	#1
Anticrombie0909 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,683	New songs/features! Just suggestions, anyway! Ok, first of all I love this site, but it needs a coupla things. One thing is that a lot of the songs either have a really vanilla backround movie, or don't have one at all. That's not as important, just something I could see improvement on. The real clincher is lack of songs, and yes i know it's difficult and I know you just added like 3, but I had a few suggestions. Beethoven virus was a great idea, I'd actually been waiting for that one, but another really good one is Dr. M, another Pump it Up song. I'm a pretty avid DDR and Pump it Up player, and that's one of the most popular songs (not to mention one of my favorites.) I'd also suggest sticking some more DDR classic dance songs on (such as Sandstorm, or something). Oh, and I don't know if this would work, but try 'Seven Nation Army' by The white stripes...yes, I know it's a completely unorthadox song for FFR/DDR, but I love that song man! Anyway, disregarding my last statement, just think about it. I know me and some other FFR fans would be glad to see it.

09-6-2003, 04:46 PM	#5
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 33 Posts: 7,454	Sandstorm has been beaten to within an inch of death, knocked out, gotten fooled around with while unconcious, and prodded with sharp sticks. Then fooled around with some more. __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

09-6-2003, 07:51 PM	#6
SotN FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,159	looks at trigun pic I dont get it. What does that have to do with anything? __________________ 209

09-6-2003, 09:02 PM	#7
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 33 Posts: 7,454	People think they are leet cause they can click the upload button, I guess. __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

09-6-2003, 08:24 AM	#2
Synthlight Administrator Founder, System Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States of America Age: 50 Posts: 3,052	Backgrounds --> being addressed Songs --> get the authors to send me permission and we can talk about using those songs. I would give a longer reply but it's 8:30am and I have been up all night Cheers, Synthlight

09-6-2003, 08:46 AM	#3
plasmix FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: TX Posts: 3,639	Do me a favor, anticrombie. Contact Darude. WE NEED SANDSTORM.

09-8-2003, 06:01 PM	#8
Paradox137 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 23	Ok, first of all, from a non-DDR standpoint, I am reeeally tired of hearing Sandstorm. It is so over-played it isn't even funny. Second, from a DDR standpoint, Sandstorm isn't all that great to play. Well, it depends... I've played the DDR version, and I've played a redone version on StepMania where the steps were on the 16th notes. I enjoyed the SM one more, but I still don't think it belongs on FFR. If you're going to get a Darude song approved, get Feel The Beat approved. Much better song. A song I would much rather see is Enervate by Transa. I don't know how to get it approved or anything (I know, contact the song's creater), but I just thought I'd throw it out there as far as songs "I'd like to see." We don't need Sandstorm.

09-8-2003, 06:33 PM	#10
jewpinthethird (The Fat's Sabobah) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Palm Springs, California Posts: 11,711	No, no, no. I am so sick of Sandstorm.... It used to be my favorite song, then whamo.... I'd rather listen to Ghetto Superstar by Mya.

09-8-2003, 06:44 PM	#11
nestlekwik Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nestlekwikland, Ohio Age: 42 Posts: 2,317	You are pretty much confronting this the wrong way. You'd basically have to go through the record label first before even considering talking to Darude. Essentially, you would need two permissions to use a licensed song and most likely you will have to pay royalties unless you can cut them a very, very, very good deal. It isn't as easy as you think. Even if we got the song for free, there would probably still be a massive number of contracts involved detailing the rights and properties we would have with the song. People seem to think it's just a process of "Hey Mr. Darude, can we use Sandstorm?" and Darude just says "Why certainly!" It just isn't that easy. Record companies are stingy and protect their artists like bodyguards cause that's where they make the money and usually if no money can be made off of a deal, the record business will want no part of it. The artists are contractually obligated (almost "owned by" in some cases) to the record company so rights are not 100% completely up to the artists themselves. Is anyone following this? And I'm sick of Sandstorm too. Go get some tracks by Kreo or Roc Project.

09-8-2003, 09:21 PM	#12
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 33 Posts: 7,454	How long is the ACTUAL ORIGINAL Sandstorm? Cause, you can use 10-15% of it without rights. I think. I'll check tomorrow, I hope. In other words, we can have like a 3 minute clip of ANY AMARA song. So long.... I'll check though. __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

09-9-2003, 11:11 PM	#14
Paradox137 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 23	Speaking of Napster-phobia, just recently the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) has sued 260 people, individuals, for downloaded music off of programs such as Kazaa and Gnutella. They're suing them for anywhere between $750 to $150,000 per song. Actually, they're suing the person who pays for the internet, usually the parents... and if the children are downloading music, the parents have to take the crap.

09-9-2003, 11:56 PM	#15
lancer77 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 73	Sandstorm! Sandstorm! Sandstorm!

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