Old 02-17-2017, 10:46 AM   #301
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:11 PM   #302
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Yo, turns out the overall ratings are flawed on 0.54.1.

You can play the same chart over and over again and it'll count each and every good enough play as improvement to your stats. Very easy to replicate, noticed this while trying to beat my Saw-Saw Edit score and ended up gaining lots of jack stamina rating.

Heard this should've been fixed already, so apologies if this is known, but that's a thing yea.


This was in 0.54 for me but I don't see it in the skill play list on 0.54.1. It only counts the same chart for separate rates.

Or are you saying its still adding rating but hidden?
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Old 02-17-2017, 07:03 PM   #303
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This was in 0.54 for me but I don't see it in the skill play list on 0.54.1. It only counts the same chart for separate rates.

Or are you saying its still adding rating but hidden?
Yea that's exactly what it seems to be doing. The same rate gives rating but it doesn't show up in the lists.
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:30 PM   #304
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I actually made a new minimal version of Orbular when working on the VGMP4 but I kept it to myself. It has 2 versions. One has the color scheme of the noteskin Staiain uses. The other one has the color scheme of Note.


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Old 02-18-2017, 04:08 PM   #305
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omg plsplsplsplspls send a halved version to me and you will have my heart forever and I will start playing stepmania again
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Old 02-18-2017, 06:21 PM   #306
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Wat u mean halved???????????????
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Old 02-18-2017, 06:57 PM   #307
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oh just the colors are halved like 32nds appear as 16ths, 16ths as 8ths, etc
but even then that doesn't matter I just need a minimal skin so I can go hard in 6k aaaaaa
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Oh. That's easy peasy to do. I might clean up the noteskins a bit, make a halved version and release them tonight when I get home from work. Let me know exactly which notes need to be halved (I'm retarded okay so what), and I'll do them. Also, which version? Regular or note? Or both? Fuck it I'll just do both.
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Old 02-18-2017, 07:51 PM   #309
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64-> 32
32-> 16
16-> 8
8-> 4

48 -> 24
24 -> 12

if your noteskin has the 192nd stuff, they would probably become 64ths? idk about that
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Old 02-19-2017, 05:29 AM   #310
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Yo, turns out the overall ratings are flawed on 0.54.1.

You can play the same chart over and over again and it'll count each and every good enough play as improvement to your stats. Very easy to replicate, noticed this while trying to beat my Saw-Saw Edit score and ended up gaining lots of jack stamina rating.

Heard this should've been fixed already, so apologies if this is known, but that's a thing yea.
this is known as in I knew about it and was hoping I'd have it fixed before anyone noticed

@xozel short answer is no
slightly longer short answer is 'too small to be relevant'

long answer is given that users (as you have done yourself) may add those metrics if they so wish, that lifts are nonexistent in basically all standard keyboard charts, that the roll mechanic is mostly inconsequential to keyboard play, and that the build/theme are oriented towards keyboard play it was a conscious design decision to specifically exclude those metrics to begin with

there does seem to be some not-insignificant interest in the project from non-keyboard players, which is silly to me since etterna breaks a ton of pad stuff and flat out ignores any resource constraints imposed by cabinets.

i'm actually interested in why because below a certain effort threshold it might make sense to port some features and not others to a pad-viable release (strictly performance enhancements etc)

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Old 02-21-2017, 04:45 PM   #311
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What causes invalid to happen in Etterna 0.54.1?

E: Figured it out



is caused by screenshotting anywhere during the file like I did in this break



can this be fixed?

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Old 02-21-2017, 05:20 PM   #312
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mina the only features that I ask to remain are fakes and sm5 warps, as I am using them more often and would like to see people use them as well (especially since dividebyinf has a different color for 192nd)
lifts are a neat idea but given that the community as a whole has been using mines to force lifted holds, I don't think lifts matter much. as an example I could use them during the breakdown of vortex v2 but it would just arbitrarily give you extra life in a spot where you don't need it.

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is caused by screenshotting anywhere during the file like I did in this break
can this be fixed?
Counting your judgments shows the invalid score is missing 4 judgments. This is a bug which would occur if you caused the game to lag long enough for an arrow to enter and leave the judgement window. It should be possible to fix, it's just a matter of figuring out how the judgement spaghetti code actually works.
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Counting your judgments shows the invalid score is missing 4 judgments. This is a bug which would occur if you caused the game to lag long enough for an arrow to enter and leave the judgement window. It should be possible to fix, it's just a matter of figuring out how the judgement spaghetti code actually works.
So if I had screenshotted fast enough to not miss any notes, it would've been fine?

Second question: Is the lag caused by this basically because of sm5, or because of having not the best pc? Like can I compensate for it with overpowered hardware

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So if I had screenshotted fast enough to not miss any notes, it would've been fine?

Second question: Is the lag caused by this basically because of sm5, or because of having not the best pc? Like can I compensate for it with overpowered hardware
Yes, if you screenshot without missing any notes there should not be an issue. The lag associated with taking screenshots comes from the fact that compressing the image is done in the game loop, rather than another thread. Depending on whether or not you take a PNG or JPG screenshot, it will take around 30-200+ milliseconds causing that very obvious lag spike. High end hardware like mine can reduce this, but because CPU power has stagnated over the past 10 years it doesn't make that much of a difference. Ex. Takes half the time to take the screen shot.
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Old 03-8-2017, 04:59 PM   #316
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will this be online usable ever?
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Just connect to stepmaniaonline.net the normal way (there's guides all over if you need one).
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