just sayin'

blanky! · 05-12-2016, 02:03 PM

whoever decided it was a good idea to approximate notes by 1/30-second intervals should not be qualified to run a game website

**andy-o24** · 05-12-2016, 03:20 PM

Just saiyan.

-o24

**One Winged Angel** · 05-12-2016, 04:03 PM

Imagine if life ran in 30fps

MinaciousGrace · 05-12-2016, 04:13 PM

it'd be 6 fps too fast everyone knows that eyes can only detect motion at exactly 24

MinaciousGrace · 05-12-2016, 04:18 PM

seriuosly light frames are origamithogonal to eye frames at any other speed up your game dude

**Velocity** · 05-12-2016, 04:26 PM

Maybe Synthlight didn't feel like manually creating the initial conversions back in 2002 at 60fps when the game was first made and was never changed when the first converter was made, and because people love legacy garbage, it was never update beyond 30fps. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

**One Winged Angel** · 05-12-2016, 04:27 PM

I thought average was 24, anyone with above average eyesight will detect some degree of staggering

Also something something fighter pilots are insane idk I'm at work right now

**Charu** · 05-12-2016, 04:38 PM

I see everything at over 9000 FPS

choof · 05-12-2016, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu

I see everything at over 9000 FPS

fall in a well

ilikexd · 05-12-2016, 06:07 PM

I don't think that's a fair attack at all. It had to be at a certain NPS and there was no reason for the original game developers to think people would be hitting >300 bpm 16th notes in the future to the point where frame conversion gets squished and hurts playability.

It'd be cool to upgrade to 120 or 60 FPS for future conversion if the engine could handle it as it'd add a lot of potential for very hard chats.

**Velocity** · 05-12-2016, 07:56 PM

There is also a large part of the early engine history that was unable to even play harder/faster files due to the old avmiss glitch. As such, stricter timing windows were likely never looked into before a good chunk of FFR's files were created.

Ideally future engines wouldn't rely on doing conversion in the first place and avoid time-killing the accuracy of notes. Though that comes with the same issue of older files either not having the source files for better playback, or the source files never existing in the first place for the very old files.

dAnceguy117 · 05-12-2016, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

I thought average was 24, anyone with above average eyesight will detect some degree of staggering

your sarcasm detection may.... hav been stumped by the...... most mysterious mina

**One Winged Angel** · 05-12-2016, 10:42 PM

Rushed sarcasm detection failure or successful introspective post-irony?

You Be The Judge

dAnceguy117 · 05-12-2016, 10:45 PM

**Hakulyte** · 05-12-2016, 11:15 PM

It's working as intended to stop top players from becoming even better~

blanky! · 05-13-2016, 04:05 PM

when you consider that it was the same philosophy that led to the old, decaying codebase of a website still in place today, there's a problem

choof · 05-13-2016, 04:08 PM

ffr isn't worth preserving though

dAnceguy117 · 05-13-2016, 07:48 PM

blanky start your own website with better code i'll join it

dAnceguy117 · 05-13-2016, 07:48 PM

www.blan.ky

cedolad · 05-13-2016, 08:11 PM

call it ____style

05-12-2016, 02:03 PM	#1
blanky! Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 164	just sayin' whoever decided it was a good idea to approximate notes by 1/30-second intervals should not be qualified to run a game website

05-12-2016, 04:13 PM	#4
MinaciousGrace FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: nima Posts: 4,278	Re: just sayin' it'd be 6 fps too fast everyone knows that eyes can only detect motion at exactly 24

05-12-2016, 04:18 PM	#5
MinaciousGrace FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: nima Posts: 4,278	Re: just sayin' seriuosly light frames are origamithogonal to eye frames at any other speed up your game dude Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 05-12-2016 at 04:19 PM..

05-12-2016, 04:26 PM	#6
Velocity Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010. Site and Game Administrator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,812	Re: just sayin' Maybe Synthlight didn't feel like manually creating the initial conversions back in 2002 at 60fps when the game was first made and was never changed when the first converter was made, and because people love legacy garbage, it was never update beyond 30fps. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

05-12-2016, 06:07 PM	#10
ilikexd Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,205	Re: just sayin' I don't think that's a fair attack at all. It had to be at a certain NPS and there was no reason for the original game developers to think people would be hitting >300 bpm 16th notes in the future to the point where frame conversion gets squished and hurts playability. It'd be cool to upgrade to 120 or 60 FPS for future conversion if the engine could handle it as it'd add a lot of potential for very hard chats.

05-12-2016, 07:56 PM	#11
Velocity Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010. Site and Game Administrator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,812	Re: just sayin' There is also a large part of the early engine history that was unable to even play harder/faster files due to the old avmiss glitch. As such, stricter timing windows were likely never looked into before a good chunk of FFR's files were created. Ideally future engines wouldn't rely on doing conversion in the first place and avoid time-killing the accuracy of notes. Though that comes with the same issue of older files either not having the source files for better playback, or the source files never existing in the first place for the very old files.

05-12-2016, 10:45 PM	#14
dAnceguy117 new hand moves = dab Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: he/they Age: 33 Posts: 10,094	Re: just sayin'

05-12-2016, 11:15 PM	#15
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,519	Re: just sayin' It's working as intended to stop top players from becoming even better~

05-13-2016, 04:05 PM	#16
blanky! Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 164	Re: just sayin' when you consider that it was the same philosophy that led to the old, decaying codebase of a website still in place today, there's a problem

05-13-2016, 04:08 PM	#17
choof Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 8,563	Re: just sayin' ffr isn't worth preserving though

05-13-2016, 07:48 PM	#18
dAnceguy117 new hand moves = dab Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: he/they Age: 33 Posts: 10,094	Re: just sayin' blanky start your own website with better code i'll join it

05-13-2016, 07:48 PM	#19
dAnceguy117 new hand moves = dab Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: he/they Age: 33 Posts: 10,094	Re: just sayin' www.blan.ky

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cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: just sayin' call it ____style __________________

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