World of Warcraft

[ichliebekase]

I hate macros. Only reason I ever used them was the one boss in ICC where you had to bite someone (it's been a while since I've done ICC, memory fail). Didn't feel like typing out /bite at the perfect time so I just made the macro.

Arcane mages are way too simple, agreed. I hate the people who roll arcane mages and don't know how to manage their mana and after every damn pull they need mana >.> I prefer frost on my mage, mainly for PvP.

[fido123]

Originally Posted by Winrar

Lock dps has always been easy

Have you ever played Vanilla or BC? Affliction DPS IMO was the hardest DPS to play when it was what it was.

[Darkbreezee]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

... but healing for me was DEFINITELY the hardest in a decently high-level raid situation...

...Such a flawed spec, which is a shame because the idea behind the mastery was pretty cool...

yes the idea was nice, but they kinda failed that hard..
and healing, well i never had any problems with that , i mean seriously, all you have to do is bind your mainhealing spells onto your mouse buttons , get a big "grid" - screen ( addon), hover over the names and here you go.
Since Grid and easy Macro writing, healing never has been any kinda rocket science again.
Not to speak of Tanking, tanking once was a real difficult job if done right with interupts / kicks etc,), and now even my mommy could tank the shit. xD

Originally Posted by fido123

Have you ever played Vanilla or BC? Affliction DPS IMO was the hardest DPS to play when it was what it was.

thats what i am saying^^

[Choofers]

Actually, I take that back. Some macros are pretty useful in raids (dunno the syntax in WoW, but I have different /target macros for bosses that spawn adds).

Ugh, I need a rift thread. .___.

[Kagome]

I mostly use macros to pop cooldowns with a single keybind or specific bosses that need special things to be done like Cho'gall or biting in ICC.

Here's my mage for those interested. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...hijou/advanced

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by Darkbreezee

and healing, well i never had any problems with that , i mean seriously, all you have to do is bind your mainhealing spells onto your mouse buttons , get a big "grid" - screen ( addon), hover over the names and here you go.
Since Grid and easy Macro writing, healing never has been any kinda rocket science again.

Eh, that works for normal modes rofl
Healing something legit crazy hard is really stressful... and if you're looking over Grid the whole time you're probably doing it wrong. #1 most important is raid awareness, you can tell real fast the people who are looking at Grid while healing when they stand in 3 shadow crashes in a row (*cough* H Cho'gall)

Healing is pretty easy at low levels or while overgearing, but with low gear or in really hard content I found it hands down the most stressful and difficult job. Sure actually pressing the buttons right is rather trivial, but doing it while managing the raid mechanics on a chaotic fight and more importantly, managing your mana, is when it gets to the "rocket science" level... well, rocket science as far as WoW is concerned.
If you've never done a fight where mana is a legit concern, then try some more hardmodes- either than or you're far more pro than I am and just find everything easy, in which case go farm H Ragnaros with your second alt raid and stop making me feel bad >_>
I mean I thought I was a decent player, but I had plenty of trouble sometimes on fights like H Ascendant Council with raid awareness while healing (not gonna lie, I was "that guy" who lightninged the raid more than once), or H Halfus/Magmaw right at the start of Cata with cooldown timing and mana management- those fights were BRUTAL in blues.

Tanking was a lot of fun for me because I enjoyed leading groups, and that was usually the main challenge of tanking in 5mans. In raids, tanking was a little less interesting. Stuff like cooldown timing was kinda important but not too much of a concern (in a good raid that stuff is always called out by a raid leader or by a bossmod anyway... addons are another story I won't get into btw) and the actual tanking rotations were not too hard at all. Some fights where tank DPS really mattered were kinda fun- Alysrazor looked like TONS of fun to tank for that reason (plus all the positioning with the worms and the firestorm and the meteors and... yeah awesome looking tank fight)


Whatever... all this is making me nostalgic for WoW but I don't ever think I'll renew my subscription. Watching from the sidelines is oddly fun too and I'm sure I'll have another chance to get carried by my old guild on my friend's account again once they finish the newest patch- from the looks of it he's staying specced braindead arcane mage, sigh. I should tell him to level a pally.



EDIT- Choof, Rift looked interesting to me but I don't want to get involved with another MMO anymore. A lot of Rift fights really remind me of the old Vanilla WoW raids, in mostly a positive way. Stuff like Sicaron looks absolutely hilarious haha, that boss is genius.
Interesting game for sure.

EDIT 2- nice staff Kagome \o/



btw, when I'm talking about my friend's account, my old guild broke up so this is the guild most of those who still play wound up in.

[ichliebekase]

Alysrazor is a dick. Reg and hard mode. I feel Rag is easier than Alysrazor and less rage inducing if you die. (Personal opinion, don't hate if you disagree.)

Btw Kagome, your mage is disgusting...wat tha fak...nice legendary staff though, it's sexy xD

[Kagome]

It helps with the pewpew.

[Darkbreezee]

seriously , ragnaros Hero was decend b4 the nerf , a hard encounter, yes , but for me (raided M'uru) (god damn that was by far the most difficut encounter ever created ( sunwell was best!) , can say that i got everything to the max, now WoW is pretty much that what you can call casual shit, everyone and every shitty r'ng random guild can kill heroic encounters, ask yourself why ^^
Still , WoW is the MMOrpg that can keep you busy for months / years, and thats why it is still the best MMORPG, released.
there have been so many MMO's that said " we will crush blizzards MMO-empire" , but no mmorpg did it by now.
I wont say that its flawless and perfect, but blizzard is listening to the community and i hope that mysts of pandaria is getting awesome again..(at least more difficult with encounters that only can be killed by epic , true skilled players.)

[ghost-]

any word on some sort of guild for us FFRers? would be nice

[hi19hi19]

its been tried.


doesnt really work out

[ghost-]

it was a good shot then anyway. looks like i'm still a lone rogue :P

[hi19hi19]

part of the problem with an FFR guild is FFR players in WoW have totally different attitudes

you've got people like me and (from what I can tell) Darkbreezee with the "top 100 world kills" raiding attitude, then people raiding but not at the cutting edge, then people who just enjoy it casually, then people like Izzy who play on private servers...

it just doesn't work out if everyone doesn't have a common goal.

[Izzy]

I'm up to 83,000 kills at the moment. Only 17,000 to go!

[Winrar]

Originally Posted by fido123

Have you ever played Vanilla or BC? Affliction DPS IMO was the hardest DPS to play when it was what it was.

I've played a lock for a long time, it was never a difficult role for me. What I can do with a pally/lock is not the sort of thing you see regularly. I've lived at target dummies and done the math for all my spells a stupid amount of times to the point where I want to kill my math teacher (i'm just kidding about that part, but srsly too many numbers) Everyone has one or a couple of those classes that they're just naturally good at. My rogue I've played for a long time, but I don't like pve with the class, just like I hate pvp on my pally now.

tl;dr I nostalgiad hard from what I wrote above and want to start playing again, may take up my guildies offer for 10k gold per month of WoW time.

[hi19hi19]

I LOVE watching high-level WoW raid videos when they have vent included.
The communication is really awesome to hear.
Really reminds me of when I was raiding, except in these guilds people actually do strategy perfectly instead of a minor screw up here or there like my old guild haha

Yor'sahj looks like an incredibly fun fight. Although healing that purple debuff would be such a nightmare oh my god ;_;
Despite the fact the video weirdly cuts out for a few seconds in two places, I have to say this is one of my favorite world first videos ever.
(btw coarse language at the end, as can be expected)

The damage on Zonozz in the tentacle phases looks pretty intense. After reading the boss abilities I think their strategy here is really cool, definitely not the technique I initially thought of.

Can't wait to see the Hagara video they promised, Ultraxion whatever, might be cool to see their cooldown usage there but honestly the fight just seems a brutal DPS check not an execution fight.
Only posted these two videos because I'm a 25man raider at heart, but there's a ton of good 10man heroic videos out there too (especially because half the guilds that make videos have their 25mans banned atm lmfao)

[Choofers]

to be honest, I really want to start playing WoW again but I'm not entirely sure what the RP scene is like rofl

[ichliebekase]

Yor'sahj is such an awesome fight. I did the raid finder the first night it came out and it put me in a raid already in progress and he was where I ended up. Soo much fun. I haven't healed it yet because I'm slightly afraid to because it definitely is a bitch fight for healers xP

Overall, Dragon Soul and patch 4.3 in general was a definite improvement in the fun factor. Not so much the difficulty factor, but it requires a lot more coordination and team work.

[devonin]

I'm annoyed by all the people who can't be bothered to read the raid finder difficulty version of that fight, and insist that red/green is like, an automatic wipe, and let us deal with yellow/red phases which in LFR are much more difficult.

Not that LFR is actually hard. Killed Deathwing as a one-shot with no deaths and only 5 healers on LFR mode...so piss easy.

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by devonin

I'm annoyed by all the people who can't be bothered to read the raid finder difficulty version of that fight, and insist that red/green is like, an automatic wipe, and let us deal with yellow/red phases which in LFR are much more difficult.

Doesn't green not splash in LFR?

In which case lol that slime is completely trivialized then ._.

(but from the sounds of it, in LFR everything is completely trivialized so I guess it would just be par for the course)

Originally Posted by Choofers

to be honest, I really want to start playing WoW again but I'm not entirely sure what the RP scene is like rofl

I've actually heard really good things about WoW RP...
One of the trials in my guild right before it fell apart and I quit came from an RP server (he had an RP shout macro'd into his Heroism spell that we used to poke fun at him about hehu) and he spoke really highly of the atmosphere of the server. He said the quality of the RP you can get into if you want is really quite nice and he had a lot of fun, but he switched to our non-RP realm because one of his friends was in our guild and they wanted to raid together.

Of course there's the obvious childish stuff (lol naked night elves in Goldshire!) but many of the RP realms are full of serious players and have very good raiding and PvP as well as RP.


...if you're wondering about what the RP scene is like because you want to avoid it, just go to non-RP server. Problem solved :P