TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Additionally, with Tiloco coming out and saying he didn't use his medic power, I think we need to be lynching between Cel and DBP.

I can almost guarantee a wolf between the two of them.

DBP continually misses the first day of each day phase and puts in minimal effort until the last few hours. He pushed LK from the sidelines, didn't hop on the Xel Vote until the wagon was already decided, Shows up late D3, and keeps pressure on blind, who was the only wagon that looked tipable. Both me and Tokzic were possible wagons, but it was stated in multiple places of different players resistances to vote for either player.

Cel: The flipping on and off of Tiloco prior phase looked like you were trying to figure out what town's mood was towards him, and if you could get him lynched. I would say your recent play is starting to look opportunistic instead of investigative, and it's been bugging me starting with tiloco, and again with putting the counterwagon on me.

Gonna take a swing at DBP for now, because his phases and votes have been consistently scummy. If DBP dies and is somehow not a wolf, Cel should die the next phase barring something incredibly ridiculous coming to light.

this post reads like you're posturing for when I'm mislynched, which leads me to suspect that celirra is also town here

I should have iso'd you instead of blind last night

[DaBackpack]

well really I should have contributed more earlier on but given that I only had time for one ISO, it should have been you

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Birb noises

why do you think this? why are you enforcing this dichotomy?

see it's weird that you're guaranteeing "there's one wolf in this pair" when hey, when it's very likely that two mislynches ends the game for us

this post reads like you're posturing for when I'm mislynched, which leads me to suspect that celirra is also town here

I should have iso'd you instead of blind last night

I think you're just mad that your wolf game is going to end this phase.

I see you conveniently missed my qualifier in "almost guarantee", thanks for trying to twist my words. not gonna let you do it though.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Additionally, with Tiloco coming out and saying he didn't use his medic power, I think we need to be lynching between Cel and DBP.

I can almost guarantee a wolf between the two of them.

DBP continually misses the first day of each day phase and puts in minimal effort until the last few hours. He pushed LK from the sidelines, didn't hop on the Xel Vote until the wagon was already decided, Shows up late D3, and keeps pressure on blind, who was the only wagon that looked tipable. Both me and Tokzic were possible wagons, but it was stated in multiple places of different players resistances to vote for either player.

Cel: The flipping on and off of Tiloco prior phase looked like you were trying to figure out what town's mood was towards him, and if you could get him lynched. I would say your recent play is starting to look opportunistic instead of investigative, and it's been bugging me starting with tiloco, and again with putting the counterwagon on me.

Gonna take a swing at DBP for now, because his phases and votes have been consistently scummy. If DBP dies and is somehow not a wolf, Cel should die the next phase barring something incredibly ridiculous coming to light.

I don't give a fuck that you said "almost guarantee", functionally it's the same goddamn thing

you're trying to set up the next two phases of lynches and that's scummy

I'm actually surprised that you are even arguing this point because you should know better than that

[DaBackpack]

I'm surprised that you're outright rejecting my point with semantic bullshit and you're ignoring the "meat" of what I'm saying

you are situating yourself for two consecutive lynches when there are likely two mislynches to lose the game

[DaBackpack]

like "hey if DBP flips town (he will but I'm not gonna say that) I am vocally making explicit that I intend to lynch Celirra tomorrow, and when tomorrow comes, I am going to use this post as justification for that"

the term I'm looking for is 'bread-crumbing'

[DarkManticoreX2]

Just to be clear, I think DBP should die today based solely on his play. Any other info that supports that theory is a boon.

His consistent ability to materialize in the thread when his name is brought up or he is voted for is further evidence that he has been following this game rather closely, despite his inability to make posts or generate discussion. This is not human play, this is wolf UTR.

[the sun fan]

Votecount:
tiloco (1)- Lar
Tokzic (1)- WV
DBP (1)- Manti

[DarkManticoreX2]

Additionally, since i'm probably going to need to out anyway, I'll just do it now before it snowballs:

I have a Roleblocking power, but i can't 100% control who it blocks. Last night the end targets were DBP and Cel. I believe I hit DBP with the roleblock, and it stopped the wolving, thus the lack of a night kill.

I realize there's other night possibilities, so I'm not basing my vote strictly on this. That being said, it just adds to the circumstantial data around DBP, and it's all starting to pile up.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Additionally, since i'm probably going to need to out anyway, I'll just do it now before it snowballs:

I have a Roleblocking power, but i can't 100% control who it blocks. Last night the end targets were DBP and Cel. I believe I hit DBP with the roleblock, and it stopped the wolving, thus the lack of a night kill.

I realize there's other night possibilities, so I'm not basing my vote strictly on this. That being said, it just adds to the circumstantial data around DBP, and it's all starting to pile up.

how do the targets resolve? if it's 50/50 how come you think it landed on me?

[DaBackpack]

that at least explains your dichotomy

I still need to iso you to see if I believe your claim

in the meanwhile, now that you outed yourself, what were your night actions thus far

[DaBackpack]

the good news is that if you're telling the truth and you actually blocked the nightkill (i.e. if there isn't some other explanation) then at least we won't instalose next phase

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

how do the targets resolve? if it's 50/50 how come you think it landed on me?

You are significantly scummier then Cel is, as referenced by your entire game.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

You are significantly scummier then Cel is, as referenced by your entire game.

I am asking about the mechanics of your power and if your judgment on "the power landed on DBP" is mechanically justified or if it's based on your reads

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I am asking about the mechanics of your power and if your judgment on "the power landed on DBP" is mechanically justified or if it's based on your reads

It is based on reads, but I know the block landed on one of you two.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm surprised that you're outright rejecting my point with semantic bullshit and you're ignoring the "meat" of what I'm saying

you are situating yourself for two consecutive lynches when there are likely two mislynches to lose the game

I want to address this because it bugs me.

If there are any other night abilities that could affect the wolf nightkill, you should speak up. with the information available right now I'm operating under the assumption that I blocked the wolf kill. I find it highly unlikely the wolves sent in a no kill.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

I want to address this because it bugs me.

If there are any other night abilities that could affect the wolf nightkill, you should speak up. with the information available right now I'm operating under the assumption that I blocked the wolf kill. I find it highly unlikely the wolves sent in a no kill.

I have nothing to add on this point

actually hearing your claim is kind of a relief because I think it guarantees that Celirra dies, and if there is no other bullshittery going on with the nightkills then he has to be a wolf

[DaBackpack]

Celirra because I want to force the discussion in this direction

[DaBackpack]

barring any bullshittery it's a thunderdome between Celirra and I and I feel pretty good about that

[Celirra]

I'm gonna come out and say I'm in a really shitty mood tonight and don't really feel like arguing nor playing right now, but I feel something needs to be said about this; I'm confident DBP is town and I'm town so I obviously don't much like this idea proposed by him.