Regarding missing scores.

[noname219]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co....php?level=959

Only displays top 200 scores. I'll be saving each of these pages before robots update their cached data.

[choof]

For those saying "lesson learned" or "mistakes happen" or "well at least it was only scores," you are all missing a significant point.

There's been a recent influx of threads that point at staff, there's a history of people making threads about staff. Whether the community is misinformed or not about the inner workings of FFR, their concern is only perpetuated by things like this. I'm slowly moving myself away from FFR because I think, for the most part, the community's pretty toxic and the people I do care about I already have on Skype so I don't need FFR to stay in touch. But there are still people who use things like prochat, profiles, people still actively play the game. There's a lot of community investment in the site.

So, what does it say about the future of FFR when precautions are not being made to keep the community, the site, up and running?

Absolutely, without a doubt, having a 6 month old backup as the primary backup is wrong. Absolutely, without a doubt, performing experimental changes on a live site is wrong. From what I'm gathering, the only reason there even was a backup to roll back to, was due to the server move that occurred around October. Where the fuck would we be if we had to roll back scores to, like, fuckin' 2010 when the site came back up? This basically tells us that the only reason there was a backup was because the people involved in the server move were forced to make a backup (presumably by someone who's a capable and competent staff member).

Performing changes on a live set is even worse, because not only does it tell us that there is no test environment, but whatever script Velocity wrote was rash and impulsive. The raw scoring implementation should have been tested through and through. I would think that the community would have been fine with 2-3 days of site downtime to make sure everything would be working properly, but instead now we have to deal with ungodly site load times, and 6 months of "work" destroyed because someone thought it was a good idea to drop a fucking table in an environment with end users on it.

So, yeah. This was rectified pretty quickly and calmly, but that's not the issue. This never should have happened in the first place. Is this going to foreshadow what the site might see in the coming days?

[Kawaiimachine]

Could we get free secret songs for a short period of time cause I was not expecting to play some of those files for a while and spent everything on store songs and gambling hall

[dvaskate]

So i saved a couple replays between October 25, 2014 and April 6, 2015, does that mean the scores will be automatically update sometime?

[Deadlyx39]

What happened, happened. Unless you have replays saved of your scores it really won't matter too much. I came back to this site in September, and scores were only backed up to October. I probably lost a large amount of my non-AAAs. But oh well, there's nothing I can really do about it, so I just move on and keep doing what I'm doing.

What Velocity did could have easily been prevented but give the guy a bit of slack. Fuck ups happen every now and then. Shitting on Velocity will only make the situation get worse.

[Tarrik]

Well, I lost a bunch of good scores. 200-400 Tier points. This, that. It's a shame. As much as i'd like to smack talk the devs that did this, there's no point. The mistake has happened and i'm sure they already feel stupid/bad enough. I've stopped playing as of a few months ago, but i definitely wont be picking it up again. Good luck to everyone getting scores back.

[Dynam0]

Just realized my husigi booflag is gone

and i'm not rattled one bit hmm..I guess it just comes down to how much it matters to people whether it's noted on paper or not how good they are :/

[yo man im awesome]

Just under 400 tier points removed


























nice

[scoper49]

I wouldn't be so mad about this happening if I didn't start getting back into FFR heavily in November. I had a massive skill spike and I've been using the last 5 months to try and sdg any song with an fc. Had a goal to get the 100% public songs played token and now with hundreds of scores lost it's so far away.

Plus all my top songs were pretty much a "fluke run." Doubtful I can manage some of my best scores again without trying numerous times.

Also being able to submit scores is going to skew the leader boards. At least for a while. Someone who has tons of backups is going to appear higher on the boards compared to someone who doesn't and either stops playing because of this or doesn't care to song-whore anymore.

[One Winged Angel]

Originally Posted by Dynam0

Just realized my husigi booflag is gone

that was a AAA and u no it

[RB_Spirit]

Yo velocity son suck a dick u a ****** bruh hope ya fuckin eat shit ice cream bruh fight me in real life bruh fuk u bruh ffr is life bruh fuck outa here bruh do u even lift bruh?

[DossarLX ODI]

Originally Posted by choof

Absolutely, without a doubt, having a 6 month old backup as the primary backup is wrong. Absolutely, without a doubt, performing experimental changes on a live site is wrong. From what I'm gathering, the only reason there even was a backup to roll back to, was due to the server move that occurred around October. Where the fuck would we be if we had to roll back scores to, like, fuckin' 2010 when the site came back up? This basically tells us that the only reason there was a backup was because the people involved in the server move were forced to make a backup (presumably by someone who's a capable and competent staff member).

That would be Synthlight.

The devs owe everyone here an apology explaining what measures they're going to take to ensure better site stability. Show that the community can trust the development team and that the development team can take accountability and not just stay quiet about something that obviously was a disaster. For example:
- Get a testing environment set up. choof and Fission can give more input on this to the development team, but the development team will have to be able to cooperate first.
- Regularly do code reviews so if something like autocomplete inserted something unexpected in a script (like what happened with the boo problem that removed a lot of scores by accident), it can be caught. Of course, this falls straight into the test environment portion as well...
- Weekly backups will start this weekend.

[Rapta]

This was quite the unfortunate event.

[Skohor]

Oh... i play FFR for real since february, 17, 2015... so... i've lost all of my score ? :/

Okay, so over than 800 songs and 100 FC's to replay, ok, i will... :/

Good luck to fix it all guys...

[L.B.D.D]

this is hilarious and sad at the same time
6+ months without a backup.. nice

[MinaciousGrace]

Originally Posted by Deadlyx39

What happened, happened. Unless you have replays saved of your scores it really won't matter too much. I came back to this site in September, and scores were only backed up to October. I probably lost a large amount of my non-AAAs. But oh well, there's nothing I can really do about it, so I just move on and keep doing what I'm doing.

What Velocity did could have easily been prevented but give the guy a bit of slack. Fuck ups happen every now and then. Shitting on Velocity will only make the situation get worse.

i mean this will probably happen in sets of 3 too mirite

[MinaciousGrace]

Originally Posted by Untimely Friction

help i dont understand the concept of matters

because you dont and nothing you ever do will

[mrpreggers]

let's not get nasty my friends : - (

[Charu]

[Red Blaster]

Meh.
It sucks losing 90% of my scores, but I never really had anything impressive anyway..I feel bad for the high D5-7 people who lost stuff that actually matters. I don't want to harp on Velocity or reiterate shit that's been said multiple times, but I do feel that given how FFR treats staff positions (i.e like its a real fucking job that you professionally apply for) that somebody needs to step down or something. If this happened in a professional situation somebody would be getting straight up fired so it kinda makes sense given the aforementioned stance on staff "hiring"..but we all know this won't happen because circlejerk etc.

I think it's kinda sad that Zag's the only one who's even said anything and there wasn't even a apologetic sentiment to it..just this kind of what's done is done so deal with it blasé tone.

Anyway whatever..no point in fussing over spilled milk. Another nail in the proverbial coffin for ffr's userbase.