World of Warcraft

[devonin]

Of course what they mean by "Sets up expansions to come" is "Tries to get you to let us get away with time travel as a way to not have to think up new content"

If it works, we're doomed.

[Izzy]

Still don't even want to go past wotlk. If I move on I'm going to a whole new game.

[devonin]

By virtually every standard of the term, you quit WoW years ago.

[Izzy]

I don't think I can honestly claim I've quit WoW when I play a little bit every day for the past 2 years. It's still WoW even if I'm living in the past.

[devonin]

Well, Blizzard would disagree since you aren't paying them subscription or accessing their servers. I think most technically you're playing a game that looks like WoW from a bunch of years ago.

Why they have yet to offer real servers at previous patch levels is beyond me. People would do it.

[Izzy]

Yes, 10's of thousands if not 100's of thousands would do it.

Also it really doesn't matter what blizzard thinks. I play WoW, just not retail WoW. If there was a blizzard supported wotlk retail server I'd go there instantly even if I had to pay again. I'd even delete my character with 100+ days played if it was guaranteed to come true.

[omega_grunt666]

Originally Posted by Izzy

If there was a blizzard supported wotlk retail server I'd go there instantly even if I had to pay again. I'd even delete my character with 100+ days played if it was guaranteed to come true.

On the Ulduar patch I'd consider, ToC was bleh and Ice Crown Purgatory was long enough.

[G.S.M]

I always think about those certain custom servers like BC 2.4 but IMHO I could never go back to older versions of wow

its done and i have done it all in the past... experiences wont be the same.

no point imo

Originally Posted by omega_grunt666

On the Ulduar patch I'd consider, ToC was bleh and Ice Crown Purgatory was long enough.

ToC was one of the blandest raids ever

[devonin]

It had the sole benefit of being fast since there was no trash, just a sequence of boss fights. But yeah, not my favourite raid tier by a long shot.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by G.S.M

ToC was one of the blandest raids ever

Raiding has been bland since burning crusade. That was never the reason I played the game. I'd imagine if you play WoW for the pve then perhaps the game isn't that bad post wotlk.

[devonin]

Raids in order of coolness, IMO:

Ulduar
Karazahn
Eye of Eternity
Mount Hyjal
Naxxramas
Black Temple
Firelands
Icecrown Citadel
Blackwing Descent
Sunwell

[hi19hi19]

Icecrown was a super legit raid, it's just that they dragged it out for like a whole fucking year and even then coolest instance (lol pun not intended) gets old after that long

[G.S.M]

Originally Posted by Izzy

Raiding has been bland since burning crusade. That was never the reason I played the game. I'd imagine if you play WoW for the pve then perhaps the game isn't that bad post wotlk.

I simply do not agree with you.

Karazhan, Black Temple, Sunwell, ZA, SSC, TK (the trash though, ewwww)

amazing bosses, amazing music, amazing feel to them

hyjal bosses were awesome but the rest of it was forgettable

[G.S.M]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

Icecrown was a super legit raid, it's just that they dragged it out for like a whole fucking year and even then coolest instance (lol pun not intended) gets old after that long

So was Naxxramas...

40+ weeks of fucking terror ahhhhh

my brain still feels it

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by G.S.M

I simply do not agree with you.

Ok, I'm not really surprised. I hate pve with a passion. It is the most stagnant and boring thing possible for me.

And I am not fond of cata and up expansions because they continue to dumb down the pvp with every update. Pvp was pretty bad in classic WoW and burning crusade is where it really started to take off. Wotlk was just about perfect other than death knights ruining it for awhile, but by the end of wotlk is was as good as it ever was even if it still had some damage scaling issues due to high gear. If there was a wotlk patch with the fixes in 3.3.5, but with less gear it would be as perfect as possible.

[Izzy]

So my brother used a scroll of resurrection on me after he bought classic-cataclysm package and I've been looking over my 4 year old rogue. I don't even know what to do in this game anymore. Nothing is the same.

Only positive change so far as that pets stay summoned forever until dismissed. For some reason my pet catalog has 2 black whelplings.

My 39 twink shaman has some incredibly rare axe (at the time) that was worth about 20,000g during tbc which was a fuckton. I remember 1 shotting people in bg every time windfury procced. The axe also has its own proc that does 400 or so damage, and that hit can proc windfury. Sometimes I would instantly deal 3000 damage in the 30-39 bracket where people had 1500 hp.

[ffr212]

Originally Posted by Izzy

So my brother used a scroll of resurrection on me after he bought classic-cataclysm package and I've been looking over my 4 year old rogue. I don't even know what to do in this game anymore. Nothing is the same.

Only positive change so far as that pets stay summoned forever until dismissed. For some reason my pet catalog has 2 black whelplings.

I'm assuming it will only get worse with future patches, I can't believe they are doing away with stats. One positive change in WoD that I've seen so far is the ability to have my looms available on multiple realms. I know it sounds stupid, but I only have two geared characters (warrior [560] and paly [542]) that I gear, no time for the rest, and the only time I have fun on that game other than gearing her is leveling shitty twink loom alts on other realms.
--
Also you have the two whelps because you can have up to three of each pet because of Pokémon pet battling.

[Izzy]

Kind of weird. I had one whelp that I had used originally and the other one should have just been in my bags. I was going to sell it, but I guess the game decided it wanted to just do what it wanted with my bagged items. Although the fact that they didn't delete my character and had mostly intact after 4 years of inactivity is amazing.

[choof]

getting rid of stats, lmao what

[ffr212]

Originally Posted by choof

getting rid of stats, lmao what

"Items Stats
Hit, Expertise, Dodge, and Parry - GONE!
Yeah, that's right. These stats are going to be removed from items because they don't feel like a bonus. For example hit, is just something you try to cap as soon as possible then avoid all the items with hit afterwards so you can take better stats.

Reforge - GONE!
Way too much customization was needed when you got a new item. It took time, lots of addons and tools to get the perfect reforges for your character and with every new item everything was a mess and you had to redo those reforges again.
That's why, with patch 6.0 the reforges NPCs are leaving.
The interesting question was: "What are we going to have on the yak mount with the reforge NPC gone?" We have no answer yet, but let's hope is something useful or funny."

--I'm kind of glad about the number thing though, I really don't want to be constantly hitting over millions of points in WoD.

http://www.wowjuju.com/_/wowarticles...s-changes-r430