Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread - Page 35

**hi19hi19** · 10-21-2008, 06:25 PM

It was easier. The judges (especially Tass) accept anything they're more likely to AAA, obviously

**stargroup100** · 10-21-2008, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

It was easier. The judges (especially Tass) accept anything they're more likely to AAA, obviously

they're pretty close. you decide

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...p?songid=31890

**Breakdown16** · 10-21-2008, 06:53 PM

It was good, all right. I found it to be fun, though the long left-down eighths slightly annoyed me.

**EDEdDNEdDYFaN** · 10-21-2008, 09:22 PM

the ffr accepted version is a lot more fun than stargroups

**hi19hi19** · 10-21-2008, 10:27 PM

heh, I love to bash the judges but stargroup yours was too technical and not as fun. You had better technicals, obviously, but it seemed "canned." you know?

Plus the left hand got really old really fast.

**jimerax** · 10-22-2008, 04:56 AM

I noticed ingame Blue-Violet is utterly different from the one in the batch (which we've judged, like C with a lot less jacks/notes).

I'm not sure it could be included in "minor fix" though.

**stargroup100** · 10-22-2008, 09:30 AM

yes I do admit mine was somewhat technical but the parts without the left-down thing on the left hand were very cool imo. bmah kinda dumped 8th notes in the rests which was really stupid. I really liked my layering in the end though, the 16th note jumpstream runs. it's something you don't really see in many files at all. also, bmah's feels emptier compared to mine without a constant drive.

I could change the file and actually make the left hand thing varied and fun but I was too lazy to take the time, so it ended up like that.

Xx{Midday}xX · 10-22-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stargroup100

I could change the file and actually make the left hand thing varied and fun but I was too lazy to take the time, so it ended up like that.

I don't get how lazyness works in stepfile making... If you realize that a part can be bettered, wouldn't you just change it? I mean, from what I see on the batch discussion threads etc., it seems that stepfile artists have a lot of time to make their files. The better the files, the greater the chance that your file gets accepted and your work wouldn't be in vain.

Not that I've made any stepfile contributions to FFR, but just stating my logic. <_<

**dore** · 10-22-2008, 10:49 AM

I think what he meant by "laziness" was that he was unwilling to cater the pattern to the fun FFR style rather than just straight technicality. A lot of times it's much easier to make something technical and un-fun than making it fun while still retaining PR or whatever.

That's just a guess, but that's definitely my experience.

**bmah** · 10-22-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stargroup100

yes I do admit mine was somewhat technical but the parts without the left-down thing on the left hand were very cool imo. bmah kinda dumped 8th notes in the rests which was really stupid. I really liked my layering in the end though, the 16th note jumpstream runs. it's something you don't really see in many files at all. also, bmah's feels emptier compared to mine without a constant drive.

What are you talking about?

P.S. Played your version of Blue-Violet, IMO sucks massively compared to Silvuh's because the "constant drive" of the simfile is "constantly boring".

**robertsona** · 10-22-2008, 03:21 PM

i think by bmah he means silvuh (?)

**stargroup100** · 10-22-2008, 10:07 PM

yeah what dore said and

HOLY CRAP I'M SO SORRY I MEANT SILVUH NOT BMAH damn now it sounded like I just dumped all over bmah. not that I was shoving crap in silvuh's face but I didn't like the file very much

ps bmah I hope you realize that you're a hypocrite because iirc you prioritize those factors (or maybe it was just your old files but I remember it about you I dunno)

**Tasselfoot** · 10-22-2008, 10:18 PM

to the casual FFRer, fun > technical.

**bmah** · 10-23-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by stargroup100

ps bmah I hope you realize that you're a hypocrite because iirc you prioritize those factors (or maybe it was just your old files but I remember it about you I dunno)

Wtf? I step however according to what I want; a "constant drive" isn't something of a necessity, but fun steps are. You should've placed some jacks for your Blue-Violet sim, especially knowing that avmisses are fixed. I don't recall seeing any.

**stargroup100** · 10-23-2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmah

Wtf? I step however according to what I want; a "constant drive" isn't something of a necessity, but fun steps are. You should've placed some jacks for your Blue-Violet sim, especially knowing that avmisses are fixed. I don't recall seeing any.

you may not be actively trying to continue a "drive," but you always fill in empty parts of the file with 8th notes or something. and yes, it's not a necessity. but constant motion keeps can keep the player absorbed in the file and can avoid awkwardness at times. however, in most cases it is better to avoid that, but files vary, and doing something different is riskier. most people (see old rebirth files) place these "filler" steps as a safety net, because it generically works and hell if anyone cares

ps this file was made before av-misses

pps bmah you don't hate me do you? :[
I still love you <3

**bmah** · 10-23-2008, 12:12 PM

Oh no I hate not. I don't always have to agree though, do I?

**robertsona** · 10-23-2008, 03:23 PM

IMO
rhythmic and simple accuracy>fun>technical accuracy

Xx{Midday}xX · 10-23-2008, 03:25 PM

I put extremely difficult fun over anything. <_< Venetian Snares, GoSW etc.

I don't know where the boundary for off-topic is in this thread.

**dore** · 10-23-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stargroup

oh fudge

turns out I added an extra note somewhere in the planet karma file. I hope nobody noticed, but then again, it's pretty obvious

CAN ANYBODY FIGURE IT OUT?? : D

you missed a grace note in the sax solo, does that count?

**Patashu** · 10-23-2008, 08:08 PM

what's a grace note

10-21-2008, 06:25 PM	#681
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread It was easier. The judges (especially Tass) accept anything they're more likely to AAA, obviously __________________

10-21-2008, 06:53 PM	#683
Breakdown16 FFR Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,938	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread It was good, all right. I found it to be fun, though the long left-down eighths slightly annoyed me. __________________ Made by arrekusuof93 at Ye Olde Photoshop Shoppe Who remembers this thread? Brings back great memories XD

10-21-2008, 09:22 PM	#684
EDEdDNEdDYFaN FFR Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,118	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread the ffr accepted version is a lot more fun than stargroups __________________

10-21-2008, 10:27 PM	#685
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread heh, I love to bash the judges but stargroup yours was too technical and not as fun. You had better technicals, obviously, but it seemed "canned." you know? Plus the left hand got really old really fast. __________________ Last edited by hi19hi19; 10-21-2008 at 10:31 PM..

10-22-2008, 04:56 AM	#686
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread I noticed ingame Blue-Violet is utterly different from the one in the batch (which we've judged, like C with a lot less jacks/notes). I'm not sure it could be included in "minor fix" though.

10-22-2008, 09:30 AM	#687
stargroup100 behanjc & me are <3'ers Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,051	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread yes I do admit mine was somewhat technical but the parts without the left-down thing on the left hand were very cool imo. bmah kinda dumped 8th notes in the rests which was really stupid. I really liked my layering in the end though, the 16th note jumpstream runs. it's something you don't really see in many files at all. also, bmah's feels emptier compared to mine without a constant drive. I could change the file and actually make the left hand thing varied and fun but I was too lazy to take the time, so it ended up like that. __________________ Rhythm Simulation Guide Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome. Piano Etude Demon Fire sheet music

10-22-2008, 10:49 AM	#689
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread I think what he meant by "laziness" was that he was unwilling to cater the pattern to the fun FFR style rather than just straight technicality. A lot of times it's much easier to make something technical and un-fun than making it fun while still retaining PR or whatever. That's just a guess, but that's definitely my experience. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-22-2008, 03:21 PM	#691
robertsona missa in h-moll Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: nyc Age: 28 Posts: 3,994	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread i think by bmah he means silvuh (?) __________________

10-22-2008, 10:07 PM	#692
stargroup100 behanjc & me are <3'ers Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,051	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread yeah what dore said and HOLY CRAP I'M SO SORRY I MEANT SILVUH NOT BMAH damn now it sounded like I just dumped all over bmah. not that I was shoving crap in silvuh's face but I didn't like the file very much ps bmah I hope you realize that you're a hypocrite because iirc you prioritize those factors (or maybe it was just your old files but I remember it about you I dunno) __________________ Rhythm Simulation Guide Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome. Piano Etude Demon Fire sheet music Last edited by stargroup100; 10-22-2008 at 10:10 PM..

10-22-2008, 10:18 PM	#693
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread to the casual FFRer, fun > technical. __________________ RIP

10-23-2008, 12:12 PM	#696
bmah shots FIRED Global Moderator, User Support, Judge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 35 Posts: 8,448	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Oh no I hate not. I don't always have to agree though, do I?

10-23-2008, 03:23 PM	#697
robertsona missa in h-moll Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: nyc Age: 28 Posts: 3,994	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread IMO rhythmic and simple accuracy>fun>technical accuracy __________________

10-23-2008, 03:25 PM	#698
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread I put extremely difficult fun over anything. <_< Venetian Snares, GoSW etc. I don't know where the boundary for off-topic is in this thread. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

10-23-2008, 08:08 PM	#700
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