The story from Tass

**Vanilla Mnm** · 11-13-2009, 05:46 AM

http://tasselfoot.com/2009/11/13/the-ffr-lo-down/

;o

**Ghakimx** · 11-13-2009, 05:59 AM

My banner and BG design is still there. Sweet.

**phe0nixblade** · 11-13-2009, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghakimx

My banner and BG design is still there. Sweet.

You really need to post this twice?

PhaeL v2 · 11-13-2009, 06:15 AM

Now everything kinda makes sense.

**retching oesophagus** · 11-13-2009, 06:23 AM

great. i almost feel sorry over my avi now...

almost

RockyRoadIceCream · 11-13-2009, 07:33 AM

That's too bad, but it's a reasonable decision and I should respect it. Will FFR be shut down then? :/

leonid · 11-13-2009, 07:48 AM

Damn I regret blaming Jasonkey

**kommisar** · 11-13-2009, 07:53 AM

well assuming synth still makes money off this site, probably not.

if the site's not being taken care of, it'll die off with the lack of updates and interest in the community. then his profits will vanish with no trafic and no ad revenue for ffr. also subscribers won't be interested in renewing their subs anymore. another loss of profit.

the game/site itself is no longer being taken care of like it used to, which led the community to make their own projects (keybeatonline) to salvage what's left of the gaming community.

RockyRoadIceCream · 11-13-2009, 07:59 AM

Ohh okay. So it'll just wither away then? Not good but it's better than the sudden vanishing of a site.

DotKritic · 11-13-2009, 08:01 AM

Wow…so if FFR dies down or is sold, what happens to Rithum? Hard to believe you make one of the biggest social network gaming sites and you just abandon it.

**kommisar** · 11-13-2009, 08:09 AM

1,708,313 members and growing!

apparently this means nothing to synth

**Sprite-** · 11-13-2009, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DotKritic

Wow…so if FFR dies down or is sold, what happens to Rithum? Hard to believe you make one of the biggest social network gaming sites and you just abandon it.

Posted by MalDON:
If anyone is wondering why I haven't been updating Rithum at all, tass pretty much summed it all up. I'd be more than happy to work on the site for free, but Synth screwed up by ignoring everyone for so long.
I don't see the reason is working on a site knowing that the guy who owns it is basically MIA.

MrRubix · 11-13-2009, 08:23 AM

I recall all those live webcam chats the community had with Synth -- he seems like a genuinely cool guy who works hard, but I do agree that his financial management and staff interaction style needs improvement(/to exist).

I can also speak here from experience with respect to being ignored -- there was a small window of time in the past when I helped Synth code a converter for a 5-key game using the pre-existing code (which did take some work because the pre-existing code was not the greatest). Synth was well aware of my financial/technical/academic background and education; we were in talks for a while for a position on the site, but after a while he just stopped talking to me and never returned any of my attempts to contact him, which is hugely silly, as I've helped even very-successful firms in the past generate a LOT of value.

Aside from my own personal gripes, I have to also wonder why Tass wasn't leveraged as much as he could have been. The guy's obviously very good at marketing and taking initiative, considering that he's been able to aggressively make contacts with various Flash developers/communities for his walkthrough business and even include FFR in those talks over at San Fran, which is huge (those conferences act as the pulse of the Flash communities... it doesn't really get much more direct). Also it blows my mind that Synth didn't push forward with Konami.

I'm sure Synth has his own side to the story -- my guess is that he was more focused on prioritizing his personal finances/family (such as his diabetic son) as opposed to dumping efforts into the site. From an economic standpoint though, it is financially irrational to not consider business deals that are clearly positive-NPV. If he didn't have the time/energy to handle them, then that's when you hire more people or optimize task allocation among pre-existing staff members. Either way, communication is key, and that was clearly not present here.

It's not like it's impossible to get FFR rolling again, either. But, again, the ball's in Synth's court, so hopefully he notices Tass' post and gives his side of the story.

This post is dedicated to Third Style. RIP, lol.

DotKritic · 11-13-2009, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sprite-

Posted by MalDON:
If anyone is wondering why I haven't been updating Rithum at all, tass pretty much summed it all up. I'd be more than happy to work on the site for free, but Synth screwed up by ignoring everyone for so long.
I don't see the reason is working on a site knowing that the guy who owns it is basically MIA.

****ing OUCH! Lucky five bastards who actually got one of the six Rithum shirts ever created.

edit: When will FFR/Rithum close? I'm sure the domain will die EVENTUALLY.

[TeRa] · 11-13-2009, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DotKritic

When will FFR/Rithum close? I'm sure the domain will die EVENTUALLY.

Only time will tell.
I'll stay till this site won't load anymore.

PhaeL v2 · 11-13-2009, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRubix

I'm sure Synth has his own side to the story.

That's why I said "kinda makes sense", because every coin has two sides, no one can blame no one until both parts are clear.

MrRubix · 11-13-2009, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [TeRa]

Only time will tell.
I'll stay till this site won't load anymore.

Time vill telll...
Sooner or laatterr...
Time vill telll...

*cue Hell March*

On topic though, I'm not sure how long I'll be around FFR specifically, considering that I am not playing anymore. If FFR gets up and running, though, I'd still be happy to lend my services. Otherwise, I'll probably end up taking my leave.

**kommisar** · 11-13-2009, 09:02 AM

rithum is already working on another site to detatch from ffr

it's happening

MalReynolds · 11-13-2009, 09:16 AM

Tass requested the story not be C+P'd into the thread, but I'm at work at the moment and would like very much to read it. If someone could copy the story into a private message and send it to me, it would be greatly appreciated.

MrRubix · 11-13-2009, 09:16 AM

Sent, Mal

11-13-2009, 05:46 AM	#1
Vanilla Mnm cavs Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saratoga, New York Posts: 3,258	The story from Tass http://tasselfoot.com/2009/11/13/the-ffr-lo-down/ ;o

11-13-2009, 05:59 AM	#2
Ghakimx Cutie&Handshaking Sounds Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Xingapore Posts: 1,594	Re: The story from Tass My banner and BG design is still there. Sweet. __________________ I AM ASHAMED OF MY STUPIDITY AND MUST COMMIT SEPPUKU. FORGIVE ME, FFR. Ninjas NEVER die. Now on a 30 kill streak.

11-13-2009, 06:23 AM	#5
retching oesophagus (^._.^) =^-ω-^= (^･o･^)ﾉ Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 805	Re: The story from Tass great. i almost feel sorry over my avi now... almost

11-13-2009, 07:33 AM	#6
RockyRoadIceCream FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 28	Re: The story from Tass That's too bad, but it's a reasonable decision and I should respect it. Will FFR be shut down then? :/ __________________

11-13-2009, 07:48 AM	#7
leonid I am leonid Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MOUNTAIN VIEW Age: 34 Posts: 8,080	Re: The story from Tass Damn I regret blaming Jasonkey __________________ Proud member of Team No

11-13-2009, 07:53 AM	#8
kommisar Dark Chancellor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Moncton, NB Age: 33 Posts: 7,301	Re: The story from Tass well assuming synth still makes money off this site, probably not. if the site's not being taken care of, it'll die off with the lack of updates and interest in the community. then his profits will vanish with no trafic and no ad revenue for ffr. also subscribers won't be interested in renewing their subs anymore. another loss of profit. the game/site itself is no longer being taken care of like it used to, which led the community to make their own projects (keybeatonline) to salvage what's left of the gaming community.

11-13-2009, 07:59 AM	#9
RockyRoadIceCream FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 28	Re: The story from Tass Ohh okay. So it'll just wither away then? Not good but it's better than the sudden vanishing of a site. __________________

11-13-2009, 08:01 AM	#10
DotKritic Forum User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston Age: 19 Posts: 2,964	Re: The story from Tass Wow…so if FFR dies down or is sold, what happens to Rithum? Hard to believe you make one of the biggest social network gaming sites and you just abandon it. __________________ FFR Member Since December 17th, 2004

11-13-2009, 08:09 AM	#11
kommisar Dark Chancellor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Moncton, NB Age: 33 Posts: 7,301	Re: The story from Tass 1,708,313 members and growing! apparently this means nothing to synth

11-13-2009, 08:23 AM	#13
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: The story from Tass I recall all those live webcam chats the community had with Synth -- he seems like a genuinely cool guy who works hard, but I do agree that his financial management and staff interaction style needs improvement(/to exist). I can also speak here from experience with respect to being ignored -- there was a small window of time in the past when I helped Synth code a converter for a 5-key game using the pre-existing code (which did take some work because the pre-existing code was not the greatest). Synth was well aware of my financial/technical/academic background and education; we were in talks for a while for a position on the site, but after a while he just stopped talking to me and never returned any of my attempts to contact him, which is hugely silly, as I've helped even very-successful firms in the past generate a LOT of value. Aside from my own personal gripes, I have to also wonder why Tass wasn't leveraged as much as he could have been. The guy's obviously very good at marketing and taking initiative, considering that he's been able to aggressively make contacts with various Flash developers/communities for his walkthrough business and even include FFR in those talks over at San Fran, which is huge (those conferences act as the pulse of the Flash communities... it doesn't really get much more direct). Also it blows my mind that Synth didn't push forward with Konami. I'm sure Synth has his own side to the story -- my guess is that he was more focused on prioritizing his personal finances/family (such as his diabetic son) as opposed to dumping efforts into the site. From an economic standpoint though, it is financially irrational to not consider business deals that are clearly positive-NPV. If he didn't have the time/energy to handle them, then that's when you hire more people or optimize task allocation among pre-existing staff members. Either way, communication is key, and that was clearly not present here. It's not like it's impossible to get FFR rolling again, either. But, again, the ball's in Synth's court, so hopefully he notices Tass' post and gives his side of the story. This post is dedicated to Third Style. RIP, lol. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY Last edited by MrRubix; 11-13-2009 at 11:35 AM..

11-13-2009, 09:02 AM	#18
kommisar Dark Chancellor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Moncton, NB Age: 33 Posts: 7,301	Re: The story from Tass rithum is already working on another site to detatch from ffr it's happening

11-13-2009, 09:16 AM	#19
MalReynolds CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A Denny's Bathroom. Age: 36 Posts: 6,571	Re: The story from Tass Tass requested the story not be C+P'd into the thread, but I'm at work at the moment and would like very much to read it. If someone could copy the story into a private message and send it to me, it would be greatly appreciated. __________________ "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline." "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!

11-13-2009, 09:16 AM	#20
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: The story from Tass Sent, Mal __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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