Old 03-24-2020, 12:13 PM   #4821
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Phil I think you and I are just going to be fully on opposite sides of this since I don't think either of us is going to convince the other

forcing a kitb is just not something I ever see a town doing and feels inherently scummy to me. plus I'm not convinced that was a genuine attempt to break kitb before the deadline but that's wifom territory what what

placing my vote on flurry since I'm gonna be napping later and there's a good chance I fall asleep entirely earlier than I intend to what what
In my mind, Agent S / Fauna were pretty close of a 50/50 W/W.
I typed that at 10:58. If I typed a long post, that was my final vote.
I wanted to see what would happen.
Nothing happened so, I moved back to Fauna, but failed.

That being said, anything I can say here can only be wifom at most so, yeah.
I'd prefer to get wolf read over something else.
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:16 PM   #4822
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Oh ok, you just wanted to park a vote. Great.
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:18 PM   #4823
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Oh ok, you just wanted to park a vote. Great.
you're my top pick and unless I find some compelling reasons to change it you're getting my vote. no need for the rudeness what what
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:19 PM   #4824
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Phil I think you and I are just going to be fully on opposite sides of this since I don't think either of us is going to convince the other

forcing a kitb is just not something I ever see a town doing and feels inherently scummy to me. plus I'm not convinced that was a genuine attempt to break kitb before the deadline but that's wifom territory what what

placing my vote on flurry since I'm gonna be napping later and there's a good chance I fall asleep entirely earlier than I intend to what what
you cannot continue to say this when I saw it happen recently
towns have done that with KitB, including very, very recently on FFR

storn was the seer in that game, no less
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:25 PM   #4825
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shadowgod kitb
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well that EoD certainly looks bad for me. Honestly, any defense i could give would only make you want to lynch me more, and its something i probably should be lynched for. Only thing i feel I can really do is play the game and hope thats enough to convince you not to lynch me.
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because there was 1 minute left, i saw shadow self pres, and i wasn't sure on either of them, didn't had time to think and though "fuck it, lets let rng decide because i cant" had i had time to actually think things through i dont think i would've gone for the KITB. also the fact that shadow self presed instead of someone else hopping on the FG wagon was a large (stupidly large) part of why my brain made that decision.
first post is right at the first eod, he put shadowgod in a kitb with funnygurl with little time left, and the next two posts are him explaining his reasoning for doing so the next day

I was incorrect about one thing, storn wasn't the seer that game, he was the doctor

even if flurry is a wolf, cherry, you have to acknowledge that towns will force KitB
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:32 PM   #4826
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dude even says it looks bad for him and he'd rightly deserve to be lynched for it

if anything this just supports my viewpoint even more. sure towns can do it but that doesn't make it inherently towny and I'm not discarding this view because of it. flurry looks bad in my eyes and is my top choice for a lynch right now. combine that with the rest of their play this game seeming very much isolated like they're doing their own thing and it points to wolf in my view what what
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also ngl the amount of effort you're expending trying to defend them is sketching me out what what
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I guess I'll take a nap and try to pinpoint posts from iso because I don't reread the thread fast enough while evaluating interactions.

I have no idea how TWG Villager is supposed to play this.

I kind of expect a mess at EoD.
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:46 PM   #4829
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ps: I still have Cherry at town. I just think we both need a break.
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Vote Count:
3/25 @ 00:00

00:59 = good
00:00 = bad

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Agent S [1]
Apollo

Phil [1]
Agent S

Punchy [1]
Phil

Flurry [1]
Cherry
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:04 PM   #4831
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also ngl the amount of effort you're expending trying to defend them is sketching me out what what
what happened d0? we agreed to bus our weak partner and style on you guys for the rest of the game?

I faked getting off of Chief, only for Flurry to bring me back?

I think putting me with flurry is fairly ridiculous

I think storn is wrong when he says it inherently looks bad for him, but w/e, you're allowed to feel otherwise

my main point was you saying you can't imagine a town doing so, and I provided you with a time where a town did so
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:07 PM   #4832
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I have Cherry as town too, fwiw (less so, but still town)

I kinda just want to lynch within Punchy/Villager today
if people decide to offer up Agent S, I won't cry but I am not interested in anywhere else
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:18 PM   #4833
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I have Cherry as town too, fwiw (less so, but still town)

I kinda just want to lynch within Punchy/Villager today
if people decide to offer up Agent S, I won't cry but I am not interested in anywhere else
Can you sum up your thoughts on why you want to lynch punchy?
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:27 PM   #4834
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Was expecting to see Agent S going gung-ho that he should be lynched this phase with how hard he was forcing the 'thunderdome' with Fauna last phase, huh
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Can you sum up your thoughts on why you want to lynch punchy?
I think Flurry is town, and they tried to vote Fauna at the buzzer last phase, and I'm just going to assume that they tried to actually kill Fauna, rather than game the voting clock or something

The other Agent S voters are Punchy, Fauna and myself. I really have to wonder where the wolves are, if not on Agent S. If Punchy is town, then I don't know what the fuck the wolves were doing; busing Fauna there seems super dumb and arbitrary to me

Game makes a lot of sense from my POV if Punchy is a wolf as a result

I know Yuka tried to vote Agent S at the buzzer as well, but I was townreading Eugene very hard before that, and I don't think I will be coming back from that anytime soon
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Was expecting to see Agent S going gung-ho that he should be lynched this phase with how hard he was forcing the 'thunderdome' with Fauna last phase, huh
wat
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wat
Yeah ignore me, I was misremembering this
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If Fauna flips as wolf, we are going to have a lovely time dissecting reads, and look at Fauna/Phil interactions.

And if Fauna flips as town, then I am the infolynch, to resolve the Agent S situation, and cleanse the dirty palette for MYLO.
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Sup?

If this forum code editor thing isn't a POS, y'all will have the first part of a Fauna deep-dive soon
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On my epic quest to scumhunt via Fauna's interactions with living players...format is thusly.
  • Each day will be broken down by player
  • Any post by Fauna I can interpret as meaningful commentary on that player will be linked
  • Summary: A quick few words on what the post does with that player, how it places them, etc.
  • Progression: How it compares to their previous interactions with this player and my notes on how natural/unnatural/suspicious it looks.


DAY 1



  • Agent S
    • nuffink
  • Apollo
    • Post: 55
      • Summary: Response to Flurry?, Mildly Defensive
      • Progression: -
    • Post: 107
      • Summary: More Defense, Slight Town Place?
      • Progression: Follows from 55 but not much to justify defense in the first place. Post 155 might be an interesting addendum. "No reads yet" but you have the energy to soft-defend?
    • Post:
  • Cherry
    • nuffink
  • Flurry
    • nuffink
  • Phil
    • Post: 60
      • Summary: Fence-Sitting, Null Place
      • Progression: -
    • Post: 158
      • Summary: Null, Probing
      • Progression: this is fucking boring
  • Punchy
    • nuffink
  • Rolf
    • nuffink
  • Villager-slot (Tank, Merengue)
    • nuffink


General Notes: Well that was a wash, at least when it comes to currently living players. While having absolutely nothing on certain players would usually be a big scumtell, it's probably not the best play to read into it considering the dead people/game size/the fact that they PTFO'd less than halfway through the day. Only thing interesting is a possible link to Apollo, we'll see if that holds up.


DAY 2


  • GENERAL/LISTICLES
    • Post: 729
      • Summary: (Agent S) nuffink | (Apollo) nuffink | (Cherry) nuffink | (Flurry) nuffink | (Phil) Soft Push, Slight Scum P | (Punchy) Scum P, Cont. link to Chief | (Rolf) Null, Fence-Sitty, Soft Push? | (V-Slot) nuffink
      • Progression: Nothingness on S/Apollo/Cherry/V-Slot becoming a pattern. Might be finally deciding how to place Phil (might need to focus on how he was moving D1 to decide motive). Consistent on Punchy/Chief thang.
  • Agent S
    • Post: 1215
      • Summary: First Blush, Neutral
      • Progression: I don't see any.
  • Apollo
    • nuffink
  • Cherry
    • nuffink
  • Flurry
    • Post: 644
      • Summary: Neutral, Dialogue
      • Progression: First blush, nothing much.
    • Post: 996
      • Summary: Genial response to Flurry, Mild Explanatory Vibe?
      • Progression: Doesn't seem to want to wrestle with Flurry at all, wonder why.
    • Post: 1204
      • Summary: Scum P
      • Progression: Just seems like a simple attempt to mask inside knowledge, correct me if I'm wrong.
  • Phil
    • Post: 1025
      • Summary: Mildly aggro response to Phil, Slight Scum P?
      • Progression: It's a small move from last time, but seems a bit unprompted. Segues almost directly into...
    • Post: 1028
      • Summary: More aggro, Slight/Med Scum P?
      • Progression: Definitely more pointed, let's see where this goes. First blush, I don't like her pushing the "hard bus on D1" narrative.
    • Post: 1035
      • Summary: Aggro Gone, Expl. Med Town P
      • Progression: And let's flip, flop, flooooww! Smacks of backpedaling to me. A decent amount of town dust sprinkled on Phil. 1039 addendum?
  • Punchy
    • Post: 635
      • Summary: Scum Place
      • Progression: First impression, but outta nowhere. Don't think scum would be in a mood to tempt fate either given a lol-lynch on a buddy so soon, so considering Chief's flip, minor town points for Punchy.
    • Post: 746
      • Summary: Move to Null, Response to Me-Slot
      • Progression: Seems very opportunistic / hedging given their push on Boomer.
    • Post: 1616
      • Summary: Genial Response
      • Progression: A little disjointed.
  • Rolf
    • Post: 1022
      • Summary: Null P, Neutral Response to Phil
      • Progression: Consistent on Rolf I guess...maybe I need to investigate more how other people read him around this time, but it looks like there wasn't much heat on him, and Fauna didn't need to do the "lynch candidate or not" game. Minor town points for Rolf.
    • Post: 1621
      • Summary: Slight Scum P
      • Progression: It's a noticeable move, might be lining up lynches (check D3!)
  • Villager-slot (Tank, Merengue)
    • Post: 1290
      • Summary: First Blush, Dismissive
      • Progression: No placing, doesn't change much


General Notes: If no one gives her Boomer push as a reason for their scumread of Fauna in the future I'll be mildly disappointed. Look at her interactions with Eugene and all the holes in her reasoning that come up...yucky! I'm also willing to give more scrutiny to those seemingly left out of Faunas posts.



I know FLurry and [someone else I'm forgetting] have said that Fauna and my predecessor being all buddy-buddy previously sticks in their craw...I can't quite speak for Eugene, but I do know its a low-to-medium-risk/high-reward scum strategy to have a "pet townie" which they try to get in good with. They buddy and defend them through the game, if the townie gets lynched, they can "I told you so" for days, if the wolf gets lynched, everybody suspects that townie. It's pretty effective in the right hands, and it def looks like that's what Fauna is trying here.


Solely from the story so far:

+town: Punchy, Phil, Rolf
undecided: Flurry, V-Slot

+scum: S, Apollo, Cherry



I will conclude this Day's notes by pointing out this jackpot post.



[TBC]
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Jesus Christ it got utterly destroyed

Why do lists/bullets not work AT ALL? ffsdfsdffsds

I'll try to make it more readable in a quote or something
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