More Classical Music

[Patashu]

thanks to some peeps in music central I have a fast paced, cut mp3 encode of a raindrops midi that can be stepped

[AsphyxZero]

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127

we already have permission. lol

Totally didn't know this until she actually told me lol. I think she was under the impression that her music was already in the game.

[Xandertrax]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

Fantasie Impromptu Op. 66...I would so love a chart/song for it in game

Originally Posted by Xandertrax

Only problem is, 90% of good classical songs that people would enjoy listening to cannot be condensed to 4 keys, it's just a mess.

This is the BIGGEST problem with fantasie impromptu. It's one of my favorite Chopin pieces, but you'd have to completely ignore the polyrhythm to make a halfway decent file, which is the entire point of the piece in the first place. I think people have been trying to chart it for a few years, I've never seen a good one. Like I said before, most of the best classical songs just can't be condensed 4 keys, while maintaining a quality file.

[MarioNintendo]

I recently found out about NickPerrin. He's not a composer from the 1500's, but I think his work qualifies for FFR fun.

Here is an example of a file I stepped while waiting for his permission to use his songs. What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81O1_CjH5ew

EDIT: He DID give me permission to use them. Yayz for all!

[PlayTrumpet]

Alkan's music would be wonderful.

Imagine this (or a shortened version of this) stepped in the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEk0u6fJByo

It'd be no problem to make or find a midi of that piece in particular. No bpm changes to my knowledge. Still, that'd be an incredibly tiring file to play. =P

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by Xandertrax

This is the BIGGEST problem with fantasie impromptu. It's one of my favorite Chopin pieces, but you'd have to completely ignore the polyrhythm to make a halfway decent file, which is the entire point of the piece in the first place. I think people have been trying to chart it for a few years, I've never seen a good one. Like I said before, most of the best classical songs just can't be condensed 4 keys, while maintaining a quality file.

I'm actually working on this chart now myself - the performance I have is very accent heavy in some spots so the polyrhythms aren't entirely audible in every area, which makes the file someone tolerable.

[igotrhythm]

Not to mention that fast polyrhythms tend to make people rage. All depends on your target difficulty, really.

[who_cares973]

i challenge you to an impromptu off aj!!!!! i'll be stepping the song as well

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by who_cares973

i challenge you to an impromptu off aj!!!!! i'll be stepping the song as well

I quit.

[nois-or-e]

Well that was aniti-climactic

[LJRoX]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

I'm actually working on this chart now myself - the performance I have is very accent heavy in some spots so the polyrhythms aren't entirely audible in every area, which makes the file someone tolerable.

Hopefully it's not an impromptu where the pianist decides to play tempo rubato in the slower parts loool.
But I can't wait
It sounds better with it however.

[MarioNintendo]

Originally Posted by LJRoX

But I can't wait

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

I quit.

Tough luck, LJ

[GLL]

I'm a bit concerned about what qualifies as "classical". Individual performances are unique based on the performer's interpretation. For the most part, making a tempo perfect classical song would sound cold and mechanical and uninteresting. I want to know if a dance remix (other other type of cover) of a classical song would still be considered "classical".

The best example I can think of is Kakume from DDR. It's very close to the original Revolutionary Etude by Chopin but in a dance style. Other examples include "V" (Vivaldi's Winter), End of the Century (Ode to Joy), Speed Over Beethoven (Fur Elise), and Beethoven's Virus from Pump it Up (Beethoven's Sonata Pathetique, third movement).

Just suppose a producer here wants to do a kickass instrumental dance remix of some classical music for the site. I also have a friend who remixed Moonlight Sonata in a hip hop style, although he's probably taken too many liberties with the original already, but I could definitely pull out some crazy awesome classical music remixes if I really wanted to.

Midi's are great, but then you have to convert it to audio, which means finding convincing samples and putting it through pro audio software. Since midi is just "arrangement data" of music that's an arrangement already in public domain, I don't see any copyright issues using classical midi's if you're replacing the samples. The exception would be if live performers actually recorded midi performances using midi controllers (in which case the tempo probably wouldn't be usable to step artists anyway).

[Xandertrax]

Originally Posted by GLL

Copyright on classical remixes?

Short answer: No. Copyright issues, I'm pretty sure FFR ran into some big problems with Beethoven Virus. People can reuse the tune of classical pieces, since those are in public domain, but once their creative process has touched it and finalized it, it's their product. So not public domain, unfortunately.