Ingame Song Information - Page 81

**Bynary Fission** · 12-15-2008, 07:21 AM

I'd agree that jacks are easier to do one handed, I suppose. I know several one handers good enough to do AIM Anthem wreck it (e.g Zageron, irionman, etc.), often because they are friendly for that style.
However, you can also factor in patterns that are virtually anti-spread, such as fast one handed trills. Provided you have the speed, those can arguably be considered much easier to do one handed (and index, of course). This can also apply to any patterns biased to one hand.

P.S I find Haruka one of the easiest 7s, IMO. It was also one of my first Difficult AAAs.

~Bynary Fission

**dore** · 12-15-2008, 11:05 AM

Nah, one-handed trills aren't harder than trilling one-handed. The one-hander has an advantage because all trills take that same motion so they have more practice, but a good spread player will practice one-handed trills enough to where they're not a problem.

**Shashakiro** · 12-15-2008, 02:31 PM

why can't harmonix be this good at setting difficulty ratings for Rock Band, seriously.

FFR's only mistakes are like hard 8 vs easy 9 etc, hmx often rates things like 3 full difficulties off, and the game uses a 7 scale.

maybe i should try to get hired there >_>

alexdestructions · 12-15-2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAGAMES

FFLBF is hands down harder to AAA than Setsujou. FFLBF is faster, has 32nd bursts, and fast jump-streams. I havn't even AAAd it yet. T_T

FotBB is harder than EHHS imo. Trills > jump-streams.

Agreed, but wouldn't FOTB be easier to AAA than the jumpstreams? Or unless the blue arrow syndrome ****s up the PA. =\

I think there should be V2s on songs with only blue arrows and off-beat arrows like Revolutionary Etude.

Zybanthia · 12-15-2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dore

Yes but I'm comparing spread and one-handed

Okay, but for the purposes of this thread, the original question was "is one-handed even considered in the ratings", and if you can just go ahead and do something index just as easily (or more so) as you can do it one-handed, then why even consider one-handed? Maybe compared to spread it's easier one-handed, but index is still a two-handed playing style, so there's no real reason to factor one-handing into the ratings in the first place.

As for one-handed trills, again... index. And if you can switch from spread to index and back again quickly, then even more power to you.

**dore** · 12-15-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zybanthia

Does anyone have an example of something that would be EASIER for a one-handed player though?

I was just addressing that particular question. I am also willing to argue that one-handed is better for jacks than index if you really want to go there

on another note

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shashakiro

why can't harmonix be this good at setting difficulty ratings for Rock Band, seriously.

FFR's only mistakes are like hard 8 vs easy 9 etc, hmx often rates things like 3 full difficulties off, and the game uses a 7 scale.

maybe i should try to get hired there >_>

I think all of us experienced with FFR/SM and RB/GH would be good hires for HMX. Imagine how great of charters we could all become with the resources that they have (like splitting up the tracks).

Zybanthia · 12-15-2008, 03:47 PM

Oh, I see. Sorry about that. I guess I sort of forgot I asked that because I was pretty sure I already knew the answer to it, haha.

**NSane** · 12-16-2008, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAGAMES

FFLBF is hands down harder to AAA than Setsujou. FFLBF is faster, has 32nd bursts, and fast jump-streams. I havn't even AAAd it yet. T_T

FotBB is harder than EHHS imo. Trills > jump-streams.

FFLBF is easy, go AAA it now lol. FotBB is definitely harder than EHHS by a long shot.

rednanaki · 12-18-2008, 03:11 PM

Toxiferous 79
Bmv 80

alexdestructions · 12-18-2008, 04:45 PM

I think that BMV should be 3rd hardest FMO, jacks are hard to do, the end is hard to FC, it's harder than Big Blue.

And Toxiferous should be a 79, you can at least jumptrill the 32nds, but kinda a little hard to AAA at that speed.

stavie33 · 12-18-2008, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexdestructions

I think that BMV should be 3rd hardest FMO, jacks are hard to do, the end is hard to FC, it's harder than Big Blue.

And Toxiferous should be a 79, you can at least jumptrill the 32nds, but kinda a little hard to AAA at that speed.

Toxiferous agreed with, but I still think BMV should be 79, or 80, GB1 is harder IMO, and it's honestly not that hard a song, everything in it is VC level except for the jacks, which if you're good at jacks, is easy as hell. AIM and Club are harder jackwise (that's not even questionable, deniers STFU!) and if you can vibrate then it's only a mid FMO, for others, I still think 79-80 hits it well

No, Big Blue is leagues harder, mini 16th jacks riddled throughout jumpstreams and hands, at 226 BPM, hah, no, it's harder, wayyy harder

**jimerax** · 12-19-2008, 08:37 AM

lmao Shash's still here

btw

Fei Longer - 67 (jacks, but fairly simple)
Night and Day - 78 (stamina/length)
bmv.578 - 80 (jacks, ending. like 2 lower than demon fire)
Fake Jazz - 70 (pa)
Toxiferous Dystopia - 81 (nearly as hard as otaku oni)

stavie33 · 12-19-2008, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax

lmao Shash's still here

btw

Fei Longer - 67 (jacks, but fairly simple)
Night and Day - 78 (stamina/length)
bmv.578 - 80 (jacks, ending. like 2 lower than demon fire)
Fake Jazz - 70 (pa)
Toxiferous Dystopia - 81 (nearly as hard as otaku oni)

agreed

perfect ratings jx!

stavie33 · 12-19-2008, 10:46 AM

what would you give Ninja lad and Moon child?

**jimerax** · 12-19-2008, 11:56 AM

k some more

Ninja Lad - 69
moon_child -Go with the flow- - 71
Dead and Direct - 79

stavie33 · 12-19-2008, 06:25 PM

Well, that summer perfume song (3rd to AAA

yay!) I think should be the lowest FMO, IMO, that song is harder than NWE and I can't think of a VC song harder than it other than Garyuuntensei, which is debatable, if you can think of another (For FFR doesn't count), please tell me, and what would you rate it?

Quasar889 · 12-19-2008, 06:49 PM

I concur. Summer Perfume is WAAAY harder than all of the other VCs, and even some of the FMOs (Hajnal, Choprite, and maybe Novo Mundo).

Ratchetlombax · 12-19-2008, 07:21 PM

Ehh...Crowdpleaser as the easiest of FGO's? I mean, it does have a low BPM, and its 16th streams are relatively easy to combo w/o mash, but there's that 64th trill at about 750 combo...shouldn't it be a little harder? like, 89 or so?

**Patashu** · 12-19-2008, 07:36 PM

Crowdpleaser is a bit iffy.

If you can't vibrate it, you can't fc it period.

Some people won't ever be able to get it

Ratchetlombax · 12-19-2008, 07:45 PM

So it could go either way? I mean, I'm this close to FC'ing it (219 notes away from FC).

12-15-2008, 07:21 AM	#1601
Bynary Fission Retired One-Hander Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle, Washington Age: 31 Posts: 2,424	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I'd agree that jacks are easier to do one handed, I suppose. I know several one handers good enough to do AIM Anthem wreck it (e.g Zageron, irionman, etc.), often because they are friendly for that style. However, you can also factor in patterns that are virtually anti-spread, such as fast one handed trills. Provided you have the speed, those can arguably be considered much easier to do one handed (and index, of course). This can also apply to any patterns biased to one hand. P.S I find Haruka one of the easiest 7s, IMO. It was also one of my first Difficult AAAs. ~Bynary Fission __________________ Newest Track (01/25/2024): Emerald Shores [8-bit Chiptune] https://soundcloud.com/bynary-fission/battle-tower-royale-title-theme Last edited by Bynary Fission; 12-15-2008 at 07:48 AM..

12-15-2008, 11:05 AM	#1602
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Nah, one-handed trills aren't harder than trilling one-handed. The one-hander has an advantage because all trills take that same motion so they have more practice, but a good spread player will practice one-handed trills enough to where they're not a problem. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

12-15-2008, 03:47 PM	#1607
Zybanthia FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 809	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Oh, I see. Sorry about that. I guess I sort of forgot I asked that because I was pretty sure I already knew the answer to it, haha.

12-18-2008, 03:11 PM	#1609
rednanaki PENGUIN@@@@@@@@@ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New England Age: 34 Posts: 604	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Toxiferous 79 Bmv 80 __________________ -- Best AAA: The Dream of Scarlet Best FC: The Adventures of Lolol

12-19-2008, 08:37 AM	#1612
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 lmao Shash's still here btw Fei Longer - 67 (jacks, but fairly simple) Night and Day - 78 (stamina/length) bmv.578 - 80 (jacks, ending. like 2 lower than demon fire) Fake Jazz - 70 (pa) Toxiferous Dystopia - 81 (nearly as hard as otaku oni)

12-19-2008, 10:46 AM	#1614
stavie33 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,925	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 what would you give Ninja lad and Moon child? __________________ It's getting better all the time I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain) The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain) You're holding me down (Oh Oh) Turning me round (Oh Oh) Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

12-19-2008, 11:56 AM	#1615
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 k some more Ninja Lad - 69 moon_child -Go with the flow- - 71 Dead and Direct - 79

12-19-2008, 06:25 PM	#1616
stavie33 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,925	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Well, that summer perfume song (3rd to AAA yay!) I think should be the lowest FMO, IMO, that song is harder than NWE and I can't think of a VC song harder than it other than Garyuuntensei, which is debatable, if you can think of another (For FFR doesn't count), please tell me, and what would you rate it? __________________ It's getting better all the time I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain) The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain) You're holding me down (Oh Oh) Turning me round (Oh Oh) Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

12-19-2008, 06:49 PM	#1617
Quasar889 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 79	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I concur. Summer Perfume is WAAAY harder than all of the other VCs, and even some of the FMOs (Hajnal, Choprite, and maybe Novo Mundo).

12-19-2008, 07:36 PM	#1619
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Crowdpleaser is a bit iffy. If you can't vibrate it, you can't fc it period. Some people won't ever be able to get it __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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