TWG CLXXXVI - Anime North 2019 [GAME THREAD]

[flashflash account]

I need to get ready for church
I think I'm done arguing it at this point
so far you've made the argument that DBP's actions aren't coherent with him being a wolf, but haven't looked at my actions- if you had you would come to the same conclusion on me so clearly this decision is hard for you and you're trying to make it easier for yourself
just
do your due diligence and please don't throw by only reading half the argument kthxbai

[Charu]

If your argument is not going to advance beyond what you've already showcased, then I'm sorry, it's just not good enough to convince, end of story. Me and Hate are confirmed, and while we also have to make due in our part to divulge the truth. That one other town player that's not confirmed should know there's nothing confirming them of anything and all they can do is point out reasons why the other did such and such to help the confirmed town player(s) to see, yeah, dbp is actually going for full bussing strat.

Also showcasing why they can't possibily be wolf themselves for their actions.

Am I making sense, FFA?

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Here's a question.

Where did you guys go every night?

We could identify a liar this way.

DBP and FFA, please tell us where you went every day.

what is the point of this?

DDR Room>Manga Library>The Rave>Dealer's Room>Dealer's Room

I started in the only good room then moved to the room under the nightkill each night

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by Charu

If your argument is not going to advance beyond what you've already showcased, then I'm sorry, it's just not good enough to convince, end of story. Me and Hate are confirmed, and while we also have to make due in our part to divulge the truth. That one other town player that's not confirmed should know there's nothing confirming them of anything and all they can do is point out reasons why the other did such and such to help the confirmed town player(s) to see, yeah, dbp is actually going for full bussing strat.

Also showcasing why they can't possibily be wolf themselves for their actions.

Am I making sense, FFA?

you aren't making sense because you're giving the wolf a pass for things that both of us did while not looking at the things he did that I didn't do

[Hateandhatred]

Ok just reread the whole fucking thing.

FFA, your unvote on Xiz "because it was l-1" looks fucking retarded and sketchy, but I'll do you a favor and just not focus on it.

Originally Posted by Xiz

I'll be around for the rest of the phase, but i'm just doing dishes and what not

If I die, please just kill dbp. His vote on me is literally just "i think you are a wolf from a d0 post on page 2" with no context, no evolution, and no backup. I've been hounding him for two days because his reads don't lign up, his votes appear weak to me, and I think he is just skimming by.

also not killing him because it's his b-day is pretty lol tier if people actually think that lol

This is a great DBP-Town post

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I think it's good to reevaluate after flips but you might be discarding stuff too easily tbh

Anyway replacing dbp with xiz makes raeko/svaz/xiz make a lot more sense so I think that's our team
I'm just assuming sunfan isn't Haha I'm just a townie! bussing but after the zd game he gets no free pass only a cheap one

Of all possible wolf combinations I would rank them
Raeko/svaz
Raeko/dbp
Dbp/xel
Xel/svaz

From most to least likely

This is FFA's best looking post in the entire game. His endgame is horrendous though.

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

what is the point of this?

DDR Room>Manga Library>The Rave>Dealer's Room>Dealer's Room

I started in the only good room then moved to the room under the nightkill each night

From a player that at least appears seriously frustrated with the state of the game, this is a pretty ok towny post.

That doesn't clear you up but at least you'll feel like I'm trying to see some light into you, then maybe you can dig up a little bit.

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Ok just reread the whole fucking thing.

FFA, your unvote on Xiz "because it was l-1" looks fucking retarded and sketchy, but I'll do you a favor and just not focus on it.

wouldn't have looked as bad if he flipped town though

This is a great DBP-Town post

this is my frickin point
Xiz scum read me too
on calling charu town of all things
not only a bad case but also hypocritical
so how is DBP the town for it?

[flashflash account]

you're doing it too ugh
everything you need to get there is already here so hurry up and get there

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

wouldn't have looked as bad if he flipped town though

It looks bad still. Any unvote in the universe is fortunate for Towns if the lynched looks actually town, but you pulling out this move "because he was too closed to insta" and not expressing why you suddenly doubt his wolfiness (being that it's perfectly ok to insta a wolf) sounds more like trying to get some creds to me. Maybe not to players like sunfag but too bad dude I'm your judge

Originally Posted by flashflash account

this is my frickin point
Xiz scum read me too
on calling charu town of all things
not only a bad case but also hypocritical
so how is DBP the town for it?

Because Xiz kinda tried to get an anti DBP from that post and then win himself another day, at least from my perspective

[Charu]

I'm going to take you on your offer, FFA. So you don't want to do it, I will.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Wolf team is dbp-svaz-raeko-charu

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Sanzath & hateandhatred lock town
Xiz towny
Haku ~probably town, Raeko on the same level unfortunately. I'm giving myself room to be wrong here
Charu and sunfan I will be very surprised if both are town, both being wolf is unlikely too though
Dbp stopped roleplaying so well see if he starts doing stuff or just tries to stop me from shenanigans
SVAZ wolfy

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I think xel is town

Poe of
Charu-Svaz-DBP-Sunfan-TWGTheQueen-Antori

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Actually we need this to go
svaz

Originally Posted by flashflash account

So you're not even reading my posts
Which means your catchup is fabricated
dabackpack

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Why though
I'm not tunneled on svaz or anything I think role-playing is wolfy
SVAZ is a wolf read right now
Antori was a wolf read...?
Sunfan is a wolf read
I'm not an idiot

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Charu will you ever roll wolf
Genuinely curious

I'll wait for Raeko to come up with a good plan before sharing mine

Originally Posted by flashflash account

To guarantee minimal loss, stack everyone in the same room.
To change the setup to one wolfkill & one vigkill, stack two players per room, and a third player in one room at random

To find wolves, stack all players evenly in rooms equally to the number of wolves and attempt to place one wolf per room. If all three rooms have a wolf in them, wolves either are forced to sac one or burn down an empty room. If a room with a pr happens to get chosen, we narrow the poe down to two rooms of players. In this scenario the 1x fireman should use their power tonight

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Try: charu always rolls town and it upsets me

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Implying it's worth thinking about

SVAZ

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I think xiz is town
I tend to label "how do you know I'm town? TMI" suspicions as towny even if nonsensical and I stand by the "general confusion" read of early day 1

GS is actually starting to make sense on some things and regardless of alignment I hope he keeps playing. I want to err toward sheeping sanzath here and say he's wolfy but he's also voting sunfan which makes me pause just because bussing always feels out of place as an option
Could be though

Sanzath is still my top town, as much as I want to respect hakus thoughts or w/e I really really like sanzath and he actually understands me as cheesy as that sounds
This is a Precarious case, like in the fire emblem game
If he ever suddenly turns on me out of nowhere it's because he's a wolf and got caught in a mechanical dichotomy with me and it's forced

Sanzath sees town sunfan and I have no clue why
Xiz also has sunfan town iirc

Idk

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Excuse u
TMI is a loltier suspicion when charu is town

Originally Posted by flashflash account

wolf city

Originally Posted by flashflash account

you say that like you know for a fact he's town. Wolf.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

1) Svaz - wolf
2) Antori - Passless Otaku [Lynched Day 1]
3) DaBackpack - wolf?
4) flashflash account - town
5) XelNya - town
6) Xiz - town
7) Hakulyte - Passless Otaku [Escorted out N1]
8) mellon_collie - wolf
9) sanzath - Passless Otaku [Lynched Day 2]
10) Hateandhatred - town
11) the sun fan - town
12) Charu - town?
13) gold stinger - wolf
14) TWG The Queen - null

wolf team of raeko/GS/backpack is super obvious but raeko is only a wolf if GS is a wolf
so if GS flips town then the team has to be backpack/svaz/one of charu or queen (also to be determined after tonight)
raeko/gs/svaz is less blatant than backpack but still feels on the nose

I wonder if queen is wolfing

Originally Posted by flashflash account

yes
I'm voting raeko
now it looks like an attempt to chain two mislynches into mylo

Originally Posted by flashflash account

...no? Okay

for everyone who isn't here, I strongly suggest voting raeko

Originally Posted by flashflash account

you're around right now

your vote was on backpack at eod; why did you not save sanzath? Were you just not around at eod or something?

Originally Posted by flashflash account

we deserve to lose this game.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

why?
while his case on me is rubbish I thought he's been pretty towny despite that
especially day 1 where it seemed like he had no clue what was going on
the only thing I can think of that bugs me is the question left unanswered from the other page

Originally Posted by flashflash account

@sunfan do you think backpack is town then?

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Svaz pops in to defend Raeko :thinking:

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Can we lynch svaz tomorrow
She's still doing the flippin roleplay

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Lynching dbp is probably fine but like
Have you considered lynching Raeko?
Pretty sure they're partners regardless

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I like the way charu presented his read list it was very readable to me
Maybe hes down for a Raeko lynch

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I still think xiz is towny despite my love being unrequited

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I've already said I would
If be willing to vote for dbp or svaz out of those 4
Not sold on xel though I usually give him a free pass every game

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I dunno xiz looks even better now with charu interactions
I'm overwhelmingly not comfortable with people saying I'm leading like
I'm just trying to play the game but nobody talks to me or listens

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Really
H&H trolling me haaaard
Fine
xiz

Originally Posted by flashflash account

unvote

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Shoot I did not realize that was l-1

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I no longer feel bad for accidentally putting xiz at l-1

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Sunfan is never a wolf now so I can take off my tinfoil hat
Dunno how I feel about xel right now though
If he's a wolf with Raeko then his vote on backpack obviously isn't doing anything so why not bus there tbh

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I felt sure it was svaz/raeko
but now idk what to do really
I guess I just hope sunfan is town and sheep tbh

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I'm on break and upset about a call I got
In case phase is ending tonight I'll just place a vote now svaz

So as you can in this entire quote chain that encompasses throughout the entire game, FFA has done the following in regards to players.

-Was immediately on Svaz and was on her FOR THE ENTIRE GAME

-Kept saying Xiz was towny despite everyone else voicing their concern.

-When the Xiz lynched actually happened, he didn't vote for him (Because he was at L-1).

...

After reading through his post history in this game, I can honestly say my bias hasn't changed EXCEPT FOR ONE POST AND ONE INTERACTION

Originally Posted by flashflash account

In case I die

Late enough that I don't want to stay up late again
If svaz flips town I think it ends up being raeko/dbp? I wasn't really following her logic on how they couldn't possibly be partners. There are probably some other combinations that are possible like maaaaaybe sunfan worlds, I do have some hesitation it feels like he's feeding me on this lynch if that makes sense
If svaz flips town look back at sunfan

If svaz flips wolf pleeeease lynch Raeko
The interactions there look pretty bad both before and after svaz started being sussed they're far and away the most likely partners
I think svaz/xel also works iirc they sort of brushed shoulders early but didn't really have hard interactions with each other
I didn't get around to looking at xiz' reads but it probably has some clues, check and see how he's reading svaz/raeko/xel and if there's any noticeable mindset slip there
Actually now his case on me makes sense cause he knew charu was town lol

If 2 people die tonight were in potential mylo, however we have the 1x firefighter to give us an extra lynch guaranteed that might be the right play
Wolves could also just lolwin tonight but we should probably focus on things we can control
If the firefighter dies along with another townie tonight then we just hope that nobody dies in the night
Um if svaz ends up being a wolf though then we have a significant amount of breathing space I think and we probably just win by poe and due diligence
With luck the PRs can actually be left alive to endgame, but with my luck I'll somehow get stuck in a f3 with me h&h and xel
I think if svaz is a wolf we end up winning this game though so gl town I have a 5k to run

This is literally the only post in your entire game where I'm actually conflicted.

...And as for the one interaction. During the day when we all agreed to lynch Svaz. You had you Xel, the other player, that you could've very easily go after. I wasn't set in stone with Svaz during that phase, but they and you never once said "yeah, lynch Xel instead due to [insert inactive reason which is perfectly valid]"

These two things MIGHT make me think you're a town here, but there's a lot more wolf evidence against you than these two things.

[Charu]

Oh, Hate did it too, neat.

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

It looks bad still. Any unvote in the universe is fortunate for Towns if the lynched looks actually town, but you pulling out this move "because he was too closed to insta" and not expressing why you suddenly doubt his wolfiness (being that it's perfectly ok to insta a wolf) sounds more like trying to get some creds to me. Maybe not to players like sunfag but too bad dude I'm your judge



Because Xiz kinda tried to get an anti DBP from that post and then win himself another day, at least from my perspective

I super thought Xiz was town and just sheeped the PRs/sunfan

[flashflash account]

I should mention DBP's first few posts were roleplay
and that should be good enough for all of us

[flashflash account]

(not really game relevant rn but)

like I'm eventually going to write an article on this once I get enough evidence

roleplay is always always always above rand to be wolf

[Charu]

9 hours later...

[flashflash account]

That's how long I work yep

[Charu]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

That's how long I work yep

8 hours later...

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by Charu

8 hours later...

Rip

[Hateandhatred]

inb4 charu doesn't like to wait and instead we do kitb

Then lose the game because RNG

[Hateandhatred]

Wow the above post wasn't what I wanted to say, I lapsus'd.

I meant "inb4 Charu doesn't like to lynch without a proper defense"