11-2-2008, 01:31 PM | #21 |
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Re: Death piano
As for the "gate" , example : I mash all my way through The Divine Suicide of K because of all those notes , well ,the "gate" is where it has an easy part in the song that will get you a good combo .
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11-2-2008, 06:16 PM | #22 |
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Re: Death piano
Am I the only one who has absolutely no clue what dave is talking about?
Also the whole memorizing notes thing really doesn't actually work if you can't read them during the song. Duh. The whole "you can do any song if you just memorize the notes" idea is pretty damn stupid. And honestly, whether or not he's trying for a good score on DP, mashing as hard and as inaccurately as he can is the best thing he could do at this point. It's going to build the base stamina and finger speed required to accurately hit the notes anyway, and you aren't going to do that by playing VCs all day. It's also going to force him to recognize and differentiate between what I assume to appear to him as large blotches of notes in order to better mash them, which is really just the first step in being able to completely read them and accurately hit them. Hell I'm going to straight up say it right now, in two months time, the guy who starts playing and mashes FGOs from day 1 is going to be better than the AAA freak who only plays songs he can consistently PA. It's better for him to struggle with passing death piano until he finally gets it, rather than for him to go piddle around in the easy section of FFR where he doesn't challenge himself. ps. leave the advice giving to the people actually get good scores on DP, rather than those who just barely pass it. I don't like to be hostile but when you trash on other people's advice and give bad advice yourself I can't really refrain.
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11-2-2008, 06:31 PM | #23 |
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Re: Death piano
I'm pretty sure the OP is talking about the ending 32nd jacks. Right before the song ends... Just vibrate your fingers as fast as possible and hope you hit enough of the left and right arrows to pass. Your less than 10 seconds away from beating Death Piano at that point.
And to everyone saying mashing won't give you a good score... bah. I have a 1227 combo, rank 102 on Death Piano. With 1400+ boos. Vibrated the *entire* song. Didn't even try PA'ing the long solo jacks. I just vibrated that one hand, and got a +1 combo and +1 boo with each keystroke. Kept me alive, and I can vibrate my entire hand faster than 1 individual finger... Weird. I know. But when I try to accurately mash, my combo is ****, meaning my score is ****. EDIT: Did any body even look at the OP's level stats? You're giving advice meant for pros. The OP can't even FC 4's. -______- Mash. And mash hard my friend. Also, go play some easier songs until you get better. Try FC'ing Super Mario 8 bit 80's remix before you complain to us that you can't pass Death Piano. (He has a 6-2-4-4 78C on Mario 8 bit -________________-)
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11-2-2008, 06:36 PM | #24 |
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Re: Death piano
Mashing is an absolutely retarded skill by itself.
You need to know how to PA decently challenging things first. After that, when you mash, you can figure out more easily how to mash intelligently. That is, you'll know how to shift so that you're diverting the force and speed properly while minimizing needless boos. However, if you're after rank or score in this game, combo is clearly all you need to get a decent standing. In that case, just mash hard enough so that you maintain combo but don't die. I personally think that's a retarded way to play this game, though. I wish PA had stronger influence over the score than it currently does. |
11-2-2008, 06:41 PM | #25 | |
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Building up consistent PA on songs you can at least read is another essential step of bettering your skills. You need to learn to recognize patterns and train your fingers to hit them before you're going to be any good at this game. Try AAA'ing these 3 songs: Excite Bike, Pita, Norfolk Gals. After that, step up your game and start playing some Standard songs. Play them until you can AAA Easy songs. Then start playing Tricky until you can AAA Standard... etc. That, or do something along those lines that works for you. |
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11-2-2008, 08:41 PM | #26 | |
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11-2-2008, 09:34 PM | #27 |
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Re: Death piano
Just a little review for the people who have no idea how the scoring works:
550 x perfects 275 x goods 55 x averages -310 x misses -20 x boos 1000 x max combo Undoubtedly combo is rewarded in this incarnation of the game. Why it's rewarded as much as it is, though, is anyone's guess. I can't pass Death Piano for the life of me (freaking NVLM-type 200 bpm 16th jumpstream with quads...), so I can't say I share your pain, but still, instead of mashing, try improving your speed first. Edit: Went through my old posts and found something I like to dig up every now and again whenever people start talking about this song. http://www.veoh.com/videos/v15278362PYjpyr8h Last edited by igotrhythm; 11-2-2008 at 09:40 PM.. Reason: Sprite- is awesome. End of discussion. |
11-3-2008, 07:13 AM | #28 |
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Re: Death piano
Its not about memorizing the notes , it's about recognizing patterns in the notes instead of seeing just lots and lots of notes . I'll explain the "gate" one ore time . An easy part in a hard song . In the gate you don't have to mash to get a good combo .
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11-3-2008, 11:23 AM | #29 |
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Re: Death piano
If you can hit all 4 arrows, mash or no mash, passing legit songs shouldn't be a problem. So by saying legit, you know that VROFL Beta doesnt count.
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11-3-2008, 11:53 AM | #30 |
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If you can't even pass a song, just play easier songs until you get better at the game, and then go back to it. You aren't going to improve your skills at actually playing the game by beating your head against a song that you can't even clear. Go play 8s and 9s and get your manual dexterity up, and your ability to read the notes up, and then go back to it.
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11-3-2008, 05:03 PM | #31 |
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Re: Death piano
The Bottom line is : If you mash you way through songs , so be it , if you want to get better to be better at those songs ,good . We could argue on the subject without coming to a conclusion .
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11-3-2008, 05:55 PM | #32 |
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Re: Death piano
Okay... Seriously. Go look at his frickin' level stats.
Devonin, you obviously didn't even read my post if you're recommending 8's and 9's for this guy. HE. DID. NOT. FC. MARIO. 8. BIT. I can't spell it out any more clear than that. The fact that someone with as little experience as he has is asking for advice on how to pass the most difficult public song in the game is laughable. The fact that some of you are telling him to try harder at passing it, is retarded. Let him play for a while. He'll develop his own learning curve eventually, because honestly, the best advice (if you're going to give it) for him is to just vibrate his fingers as fast as he can and hope he's fast enough to not fail that section. But... having been in almost the same place just a mere 5 months ago... I know 'hit keys really fast' does not work as good advice. It's an acquired skill, no doubt. Rubix wasn't born FC'ing Crowdpleaser with 6-0-0-0. Finger speed is developed. *My* advice. Quit playing that song and expecting to pass. Play songs that you find fun and can do well at, and one day you won't even have to try to pass Death Piano. Honest. As long you're level of 'fun' keeps going up at least. I just FC'ed L9 for the first time yesterday, and found the file fun as ****. 3 weeks ago, it was a struggle to FC a 9. Just keep killing arrows*. The more you kill, the better you get. * - killing an arrow in this sense should be taken to mean hitting it perfectly. Not mashing to kill a bunch at once on songs like Almost There and Death Piano. |
11-3-2008, 06:18 PM | #33 |
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I agree with Zero skill .
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11-3-2008, 06:27 PM | #34 |
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Re: Death piano
It really just takes practice, try playing songs like Club to train your fingers to tap fast.
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11-3-2008, 06:36 PM | #35 |
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Re: Death piano
There's only one person on Earth who could sightread AAA Death Piano...
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11-3-2008, 06:54 PM | #36 |
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My advice to you is to still with easier songs until you build up enough skill to play DP. There was a time when I thought beating GGC was impossible...Death Piano hadn't even come out yet.
There's only one person on Earth who could sightread AAA Death Piano... in stealth mode.... Fix'd Last edited by tangomango; 11-3-2008 at 07:00 PM.. |
11-3-2008, 06:56 PM | #37 |
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Heh, found that on someone's AIM image, don't know how he got it, but that's where I found it. Probably some sort of hacker
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11-3-2008, 07:06 PM | #38 | |
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11-3-2008, 07:45 PM | #39 | |
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11-3-2008, 07:55 PM | #40 |
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Re: Death piano
Just watch this video : http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=a6-GgzXdASg
Also if you're not able to do Guru without mashing, dont think you'll be able to do DP. Oh, another thing, play the Shash's version. Since I can almost pass the whole song, the FFR's version is...hm ''easy''. lol Good luck, have fun. |
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