12-9-2019, 09:07 PM | #1 |
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Holiday Special Batch Set 2
Judge: TC_Halogen
Christmas Ain't The Same (Psychotik) Fake Santa (Psychotik) Gay (ositzxz369) Jingle Bells (Bass) (Psychotik) Killing All Your Aggressions (ositzxz369) South for Winter (Ghost_Medley) Unborn Baby (ositzxz369) X'mas Night (Psychotik) |
12-9-2019, 09:16 PM | #2 |
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Re: Holiday Special Batch Set 2
Accepted
Unborn Baby (ositzxz369) [0/10] [8/10] South for Winter (Ghost_Medley) [7.5/10] Conditional Queue Killing All Your Aggressions (ositzxz369) [8*/10] - resolve sync issue at 2:11.428 Fake Santa (Psychotik) [7.5*/10] - address copy/paste, improve PR the best you can, remove mini-jack collisions (see notes) Christmas Ain't The Same (Psychotik) [7/10] - work on notes to bring to acceptance threshold Jingle Bells (Bass) (Psychotik) [7/10] - work on notes to bring to acceptance threshold Not Accepted X'mas Night (Psychotik) [6/10] Gay (ositzxz369) [5.5/10] |
12-9-2019, 09:17 PM | #3 |
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Re: Holiday Special Batch Set 2
In an effort to expedite notes for batches, I’m going to refrain from extremely detailed notes. Feel free to inquire if necessary.
Christmas Ain’t The Same {Skyelle} (Psychotik) Rating: 7/10 [+?] - offset changed from -0.039 to -0.045 - this chart’s a bit on the tough side to judge, because I definitely see some deliberate omissions and structure control in the non-chorus sections - that being said, jump usage feels a bit strange even with the omissions to me, with the exception of the chorus areas which have a bit more attention to everything in general - 57.725/etc: missing notes for some vocal riffs (you follow a similarly indirect riff moments later at 59.581 as an example) - some patterning structures could be improved a little bit (some examples: 7.158 could be 1-2-3 as opposed to 4-3-4 to better separate lower and higher vocals - or even, 1-2-4, 4-3 -> 1-2-4, 4-3, to give both separation and relevance to the vocals; 16.127 is the first of three different pitches on 8th notes yet captured by only two columns, etc). - chart’s not too bad overall and takes a fair approach for an easier chart, but I do think it can be better in terms of representation Fake Santa {S.S.H} (Psychotik) Rating: 7.5*/10 [+.*] - offset is slightly erroneous in the intro but changing it affects the notes I give so do it last: I had my red notes synced to an offset of -0.864 and then adjusted the sync in the early slowdown because changing it to that made everything super late. Do that part last because any times I give you are before this change. - with regards to the intro, I understand balancing both melodies is important, but it is likely a better aesthetic choice to give pitch relevance precedence to the Rudolph melody, since the other notes are basically extraneous/filler compared to that - it’s not bad, but can be better - overall, this file has a solid explicit structure; layering is generally on point and pretty clear/concise - pitch relevance detail can be improved as a whole - there are a few instances of mini-jack collisions that don’t really need to happen (52.682, 1:00.460, etc) and honestly ruin the flow of the chart - there are numerous missing guitar notes throughout the chart that can easily be filled in either by adding notes or layering (melody: 24.904, 29.904, etc; missing: 42.034, 42.589, 54.534, 56.756/etc) - mix up your patterns a bit more while resolving for pitch relevance, as there is some noticeable copy/paste in sections - conditional queue on everything in red - there’s some good in here for sure; needs more polishing Gay {Venetian Snares} (ositzxz369) Rating: 5.5/10 [?] - much like your Choprite submission in another batch, this song has numerous BPM changes that simply don’t need to happen - simply set the offset to -0.465 and set the BPM to 199.830, and you’ll be good to go. Don’t be fooled by the early sampling that comes before the first actual beat: the start of the waveform isn’t always the downbeat in every song. - this chart is incredibly imbalanced in terms of difficulty; a good majority of isn’t layered yet there are instances of 4-note minijacks at 200 BPM in other spots along with uncomfortable transitions, making this very frustrating to play for just about everyone - the chart’s structure has a somewhat accurate approach and does pay attention to vocal sampling nuances, but the single-note gimmick grows old very quickly, especially near the end where there are long sequences of 8th note jacks - the current approach to the chart as it stands is not something that I believe is queue-worthy Jingle Bells (Bass) {Basshunter} (Psychotik) Rating: 7/10 [+?] - offset changed from -0.045 to -0.050 - 6.639: another synth note here to make seven consecutive 32nds, should you choose to follow it - 44.621/48.050/51.478/etc: what are these jumps for? - 54.050: with kicks generally being ignored in this section, making this either three Ls or three Ds will be a bit more friendly to newer players while still getting your relevance across (it also gives more attention to the cymbal crash on [LR] a moment later) - 1:07.978: should be 32nds starting here for the kick coming in (also, having it a 323 is a bit of a spike compared to the rest of the section) - 1:35.192: misplaced mini-jack (it should connect into the 4th note, not out of it) - 1:37.192: pay attention to situations like these, where you can get accented mini-jacks out of the melody as well - 1:39.907: and, make sure you’re catching all repeated notes in your chart structure, it’ll make for more relevance in your chart (however, if you must avoid them, then remove the mini-jack that occurs at 1:54.764) - with a song that has such a prominent melody, you could definitely work it out to be a bit more accurate. Comb through it again and make sure you’re covering your bases on all things aren’t arguable omissions. Killing All Your Aggressions {Doormouse} (ositzxz369) Rating: 8*/10 [+.*] - offset changed from -0.140 to -0.145 - around the minute mark, perhaps a bit later, your jump usage seems to get a lot looser than earlier, sometimes becoming unclear - some pretty good effort to get rhythms correct early on, it’s been noticed - 2:11.428: add a BPM change to make the note at 2:11.484 fall on a 4th note, as the chart goes to blue note syndrome from this point forward without any discernible reset in percussion structure - what a weird song and chart - conditional queue on BPM fix for last bit of the chart - chart is actually quite solid, might be one of the best things I’ve seen from you so far South for Winter {The Flashbulb} (Ghost_Medley) Rating: 7.5/10 [+.] - the motif of anchoring to a note on the 16ths could definitely be flipped around a bit more than you had been doing, particularly earlier on (changed off of R at 5.771, then back on again, etc) - omission at 1:00.642 feels a bit strange - not a fan of the structure at 1:11.515 that features added jumps, which seems to come as a result of the lower piano actually striking subtle chords - the issue with this is that the volume of those lower chords arbitrarily increases/decreases, but there’s no real way to arbitrarily accommodate for that in your structure: you’re either bumping up the layering, or you’re not. - with that being said, chart is acceptable as it is. Unborn Baby {Venetian Snares and Speedranch} (ositzxz369) Rating: 8/10 [+.] - I hate this song and want to reject it purely off of the song itself and nothing else - again with the BPM changes that don’t need to happen: an offset of 0.660 with a BPM of 218 will do fine; it’s ok to have colored notes for ad-lib/lyrics, so long as the conclusion of them resolves with whatever you’re following actually properly timed (do this change after applying any notes) - 6.908: this is an extremely difficult transition - 23.973: considerable spike in difficulty here - that burst at 23.973 is really offputting compared to everything else and I very nearly conditional queued it off of that alone but I don’t think it’s impossible to execute personally, so it’s alright - out of all of the things you’ve submitted, this is by far the worst songwise; fortunately for you, it’s got respectable execution X’mas Night {Silvia} (Psychotik) Rating: 6/10 [?] - 8.165/etc given that you use repeated notes at 8.992, the 8th at 8.165 and the note following it should be the same - 11.062/etc: additionally, be sure that you’re applying repeated notes appropriately for maximal relevance; this is an instance that should not be repeated at all (note: the repeating U-R-L is a nice touch, just don’t have the two U taps). - 30.717/etc: this note actually doesn’t represent the melody and repeatedly misrepresents the melody throughout this bridge - 53.062: the snares here are actually not 16ths; they’re 12ths - at least up until 55.131 - in general, relevance can be improved substantially; the chart doesn’t need to have perfect pitch relevance to the point where the structure gets overly redundant and boring; patterns can be better oriented to represent the melody better. For example, at 31.648/34.959/38.269 - you properly represent the three repeated notes in that particular area of the phrase, yet you miss the third repeated note at 1:02.062/1:08.683, and generally break convention at 1:04.752 (yet follow it at 58.131, etc). - there are a lot of instances of repeated notes that aren’t quite clear as to why they’re exist, which makes the structure a bit more messy particularly in the last minute of the song - layering is generally alright, but relevance to the song itself can be improved to make things a bit more interesting and better as a whole Last edited by TC_Halogen; 12-9-2019 at 09:18 PM.. |
12-9-2019, 09:24 PM | #4 |
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Re: Holiday Special Batch Set 2
fvrex - Shining Star: please submit to the regular batch, this was holiday only.
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12-9-2019, 09:41 PM | #5 | |
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Re: Holiday Special Batch Set 2
Is there one or two specific points you'd like to point out? I really curious which points felt the most egregiously incorrect. I'll get around to checking all the notes and sending fixes on Wednesday.
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12-10-2019, 10:14 AM | #6 |
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Re: Holiday Special Batch Set 2
Updated - Killing All Your Aggressions
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12-10-2019, 12:04 PM | #7 | |
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12-10-2019, 01:50 PM | #8 | |
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Disregarding the intro, here's some detailed and reasonably glaring instances: - 38.052/38.330: these two jumps can be flipped - 46.849: this note here actually ascends to a note that's higher than the U at 46.571, so something like R-U would be better for continuity/accuracy - 55.182: the note before this 12th is the same pitch (same as 55.738 and the note before it) - 57.497/57.960: same column, but different notes (in fact, something that can be done starting from 57.219 with your rhythms being preserved is L-D|U-L|D-R| [12ths] because notes 1/4, and 2/5 are the same pair of notes, but 3/6 are accented and separated) - 1:37.893: the guitar note that plays when this [LD] is hit is a different note from the previous one, so breaking these off will look better visually - 1:53.608: same jump flip as 38.052/38.330 - 1:57.682: the note that falls on this [R] is different than the previous one (also, with some reworking, you can better capture the pitches on the following quarter notes starting at 1:58.330). - 2:04.719: this note's different than the previous note you caught with the repeating [R] There are others you might be able to improve, but these were some of the more glaring instances that I picked up at 100% speed. Last edited by TC_Halogen; 12-10-2019 at 01:51 PM.. |
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I also fixed everything else mentioned, including some of the patterning here and there, so hopefully it flows a bit better. Uploaded the fixes. Quote:
I'll get around to looking at Fake Santa tomorrow, I don't have the energy right now.
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I fixed pretty much everything from your notes. The chart should be a lot more pitch relevant now (fixed what you mentioned but I also combed through the rest of the chart and fixed some other sections). The copy/paste sections were changed up for some variations without disturbing the PR much. I got rid of all the minijacks except the very last one because I still think it fits (I hope you agree). I also reworked the beginning and adjusted the sync. Uploaded the fixes.
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12-15-2019, 03:57 PM | #11 |
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Re: Holiday Special Batch Set 2
Christmas Ain't The Same (Psychotik)
Fake Santa (Psychotik) Jingle Bells (Bass) (Psychotik) Have all been fixed according to notes and moved to accepted. |
12-15-2019, 05:29 PM | #12 |
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Re: Holiday Special Batch Set 2
What's the update on - Killing All Your Aggressions?
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12-15-2019, 06:15 PM | #13 |
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Re: Holiday Special Batch Set 2
Hasn't been looked at yet, these were prioritized due to being Xmas releases.
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